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09-27-2012, 02:33 PM
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NHL lockout: CBA talks this weekend could go three days instead of just one

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...ad-of-just-one

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And I'll be really sad if opening night gets cancelled; I'm supposed to play at Jobing earlier that day.

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NHL lockout: CBA talks this weekend could go three days instead of just one

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More the better!

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Krys Barch is a moron.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...medium=twitter

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Bødker signed with Rauman Lukko FEL (rest of the year if the lockout lasts that long). I'm not Lukko fan and I don't live in Rauma, but I'm hoping to see him play live when the team comes to my home town.

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Krys Barch is a moron.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...medium=twitter

Where is Dan Carcillo when you need him?
"Like me or hate me I speak what comes from my heart!"
Maybe he speaks what comes from his heart because his brain isn't speaking to him

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09-30-2012, 11:53 AM
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Some one needs to explain to Joffrey Lupul that revenue does not equal profit. Matter of fact, this basic lack of understanding seems to be a widespread problem among players. Barch and Bissonnette apparently have no idea that the two words are not interchangeable.

Profit ≠ Revenue

Why?

Cost.

http://m.askmen.com/sports/fanatic/n...kout-2012.html

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09-30-2012, 12:29 PM
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Oh how I want to see our 1st ever banner raised and the lockout is just making that more and more difficult.

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09-30-2012, 08:42 PM
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This lockout will be a disaster for the NHL. Let's face it, it is a fringe sport in the US and many franchises in this country will have a hard time recovering from this fiasco.
Should have learned from 2004.

Should have been avoided at all costs by the players and the owners. Both sides will suffer in the long run. Sad to see it happen.......very sad for all of us hockey fans in Phoenix and the rest of the US.

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it is a fringe sport
I think people are really starting to over use this term regarding the NHL.

It's not professional table tennis.

The league has major network exposure and 23 teams with huge arenas. So 40 million people don't tune in to watch it on broadcast TV? Big whoop.

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It can be rough, I usually have to find hockey information. The other major ones can be over exposed to me. Especially during the NBA season.

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It can be rough, I usually have to find hockey information. The other major ones can be over exposed to me. Especially during the NBA season.
There is no question they get more exposure, but it's hardly fringe unless you REALLY want to stretch that word.

But compared to Football, even the MLB is fringe these days if we are going to go that route. Remember back to just last week with the ref controversy, it literally pushed the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2012 out of the news cycle for a couple days.

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The only blessing in disguise with this lockout for me is that it brought me back to watching the Cardinals. I used to have season tickets with my surrogate father (RIP) to the Coyotes, Cardinals, Sun Devils, and Roadrunners. We loved sports. Hockey was always my number one though. He died in February, and ever since i really had no desire to pay attention to anything other than one of my true passions, which is of course, hockey and the Coyotes. However, now with the lockout, it has made me appreciate everything more, as strange and preachy as that sounds

I'm only 20 years old, so the majority of my friends have no idea why i am so into sports. I dont know how to explain it to them really. Once you are exposed to something that you are passionate about, it almost becomes a priority in your life. Sports look like a giant game to people who aren't into them, because of course, thats what they are, but most people fail to understand that the athletes that play these "games" are doing this as their career. It means so much more when you put it that way. Maybe I'm overly appreciative, maybe I'm just ranting, or maybe I'm just tired of not being able to talk on this site with the people who share the same passion with me about what it is we are so passionate about

I don't know, sports for me is a way of life. It's literally the only out i had growing up the way i did. It brought me closer to the people who meant the most to me as well. That's why i am so excited to watch the Cardinals fight on the way they are. 4-0 baby keep it comin. Now let's get this **** settled so i can once again cheer on every team in the most underrated state, and city in sports

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http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/84...ly-encouraging

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The NHL and NHLPA met briefly Tuesday but made no progress on a new collective bargaining agreement and offered little hope that a deal is any closer to getting done.
So, I guess the State Fair will be an option for entertainment

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So, I guess the State Fair will be an option for entertainment
Just don't go opening day

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I swear.

More and more business today are run by a bunch of clowns. The NHL should not be in another lockout here, not after all of this talk about how the salary cap is supposed to be the end of other teams losing money.

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What good is the cap when it leaps up and up by huge margins each summer? Fixed, incremental raises might make more sense.

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I don't like the idea of guys making less than average having to give back any money. What if they came up with a plan where nobody would be rolled back to below the average. League average right now is 2.4m, right?

What if they started with 5% roll backs at 2.5m (putting those players at 2.4m) and increased the roll back by one tenth of a percent for each additional 100kay in salary. So, 5.1% for 2.6m and 5.2% for 2.7. Keep on creeping up until you hit 10% (at 7m) and all players making more than that amount(7m) get hit with a ten percent roll back - nobody gives back a higher percent. It's a way to only really wax the hell out of the way higher end salaries without killing the little guy.

Sure beats the hell out of a 24% whack right across the board, right?

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If this thing keeps going, I would love for fans to show their disgust by not showing up for the season opener. 15 empty arenas. I think that would send a message.

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If this thing keeps going, I would love for fans to show their disgust by not showing up for the season opener. 15 empty arenas. I think that would send a message.
It would but you and I both know that is not going to happen sadly.

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I don't like the idea of guys making less than average having to give back any money. What if they came up with a plan where nobody would be rolled back to below the average. League average right now is 2.4m, right?

What if they started with 5% roll backs at 2.5m (putting those players at 2.4m) and increased the roll back by one tenth of a percent for each additional 100kay in salary. So, 5.1% for 2.6m and 5.2% for 2.7. Keep on creeping up until you hit 10% (at 7m) and all players making more than that amount(7m) get hit with a ten percent roll back - nobody gives back a higher percent. It's a way to only really wax the hell out of the way higher end salaries without killing the little guy.

Sure beats the hell out of a 24% whack right across the board, right?
As of right now they're all giving back money every year due to escrow anyways. I highly doubt there's going to be a salary rollback like we had in 2005. But increased escrow payments due to a lowering of the player's share of HRR I could easily see.

On the subject of which players give up how much %, as long as it's handled via the escrow process I doubt the owners care terribly much whether all players give up equal %'s or there's a progressive system. As long as the total amount is the same it doesn't affect the owners. It would be more on the NHLPA's side if they want to propose differing % escrow contributions.

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Korpikoski joins Boedker and Klesla playing overseas. Although others are considering it, solid number of players till skating locally.

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Boedker joins fellow Danish star Frans Nielsen and former Kitchener teammate Justin Azevedo playing for Lukko in the rough and tumble Finnish league. Should be interesting to see what he can do.

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All games are cancelled through the 24th:

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The NHL cancellation through Oct. 24 wipes out four #Coyotes games --a home-at-home vs Stars and home contests vs. Flames and Ducks.

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And it wipes out my game at jobing as well.

Bummer. I guess I'll just have to play more, watch less.

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