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10-05-2012, 08:59 AM
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The D imo might look like:
Gardiner - Holzer
Blacker - Fraser
Ranger - Gysbers


The Forwards:
Kadri - Colborne - Frattin
Ashton - Aucoin - D'amigo
Deschamps - Zigomanis - Komarov
Hamilton - ? - Scott


roll all lines.
Plus Mckegg, Ross, and Devane

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You've been parading Gally's slow start for awhile now. He's not a defenseman, and if you want to get technical, when it comes to talent and ability, Finn couldn't tie his boots.

Why can't you like a prospect without bagging on another?

You're a sad old man, it seems.
Did I insult you, why not respond what I posted to you?

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10-05-2012, 09:05 AM
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Gysbers in over Kostka and Yeo? Why?
He'll probably get the edge over Yeo. Gysbers did lead the team in defensive scoring last season while Yeo bounced between ECHL/AHL (IIRC).

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10-05-2012, 09:31 AM
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based on the interview with Dallas yesterday:

- he really likes Colborne + Ashton together
- Aucoin - Kadri - Scott seems like a set line at this point
- Fraser + Holzer pairing is staying for sure.
- Mckegg has a leg up on the other young guys to make the team

so a somewhat educated guess at opening night:

Aucoin - Kadri - Scott
Ashton - Colborne - D'amigo
Deschamps - Zigomanis - Mckegg
Komarov - Hamilton - Acton/Abbott

Gardiner - Ranger
Blacker - Gysbers
Fraser - Holzer
Kostka

Scrivens
Rynnas

once Frattin is healthy, look out...that is a great AHL forward group.

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10-05-2012, 09:33 AM
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He'll probably get the edge over Yeo. Gysbers did lead the team in defensive scoring last season while Yeo bounced between ECHL/AHL (IIRC).
Kostka is better than Gysbers though, as is Ranger, Holzer, Fraser, Gardiner and Blacker. Maybe Gysbers will be the number 7, but he won't be a top 6 guy if the rest are healthy.

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10-05-2012, 09:37 AM
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Kostka is better than Gysbers though, as is Ranger, Holzer, Fraser, Gardiner and Blacker. Maybe Gysbers will be the number 7, but he won't be a top 6 guy if the rest are healthy.
I don't think he will either, but he's likely ahead of Yeo is all I'm saying. Your probably right that he'll float in/out of the lineup with the added depth.

It'll be interesting how everything shakes out.

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based on the interview with Dallas yesterday:

- he really likes Colborne + Ashton together
- Aucoin - Kadri - Scott seems like a set line at this point
- Fraser + Holzer pairing is staying for sure.
- Mckegg has a leg up on the other young guys to make the team

so a somewhat educated guess at opening night:

Aucoin - Kadri - Scott
Ashton - Colborne - D'amigo
Deschamps - Zigomanis - Mckegg
Komarov - Hamilton - Acton/Abbott

Gardiner - Ranger
Blacker - Gysbers
Fraser - Holzer
Kostka

Scrivens
Rynnas
I agree for the most part. Here's my take on what the lineup could look like:

Aucoin-Kadri-Scott
Ashton-Colborne-D'amigo
Deschamps-Zigomanis-Mckegg
Crescenzi-Hamilton-Komarov
Abbott-Carrick-Devane/Acton

Gardiner-Holzer
Fraser-Ranger
Kostka-Blacker
Gysbers,Yeo

Scrivens
Rynnas/Owuya

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Did I insult you, why not respond what I posted to you?
No, I'm not personally insulted. Your attempts at "I told you so", when it comes to 18 year old kids is just sad and pathetic, is all.

You're over 30, but act under 12.

What is there to respond to? Vail's point totals? Good for him. I'm a Spits fan, and the guy's not a game-changing talent.

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I don't think he will either, but he's likely ahead of Yeo is all I'm saying. Your probably right that he'll float in/out of the lineup with the added depth.

It'll be interesting how everything shakes out.
I agree. The Marlies defense is arguably better than the Islanders defense

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The D imo might look like:
Gardiner - Holzer
Blacker - Fraser
Ranger - Gysbers


The Forwards:
Kadri - Colborne - Frattin
Ashton - Aucoin - D'amigo
Deschamps - Zigomanis - Komarov
Hamilton - ? - Scott



roll all lines.


ross and makegg are not going to be sitting on bench, they will be on team

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I agree for the most part. Here's my take on what the lineup could look like:

Aucoin-Kadri-Scott
Ashton-Colborne-D'amigo
Deschamps-Zigomanis-Mckegg
Crescenzi-Hamilton-Komarov
Abbott-Carrick-Devane/Acton

Gardiner-Holzer
Fraser-Ranger
Kostka-Blacker
Gysbers,Yeo

Scrivens
Rynnas/Owuya



where is ross

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where is ross
Completely forgot him

He'd definitely slot into the 3rd or 4th line LW spot.

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No, I'm not personally insulted. Your attempts at "I told you so", when it comes to 18 year old kids is just sad and pathetic, is all.

You're over 30, but act under 12.

What is there to respond to? Vail's point totals? Good for him. I'm a Spits fan, and the guy's not a game-changing talent.
My point was at times some of the posters here get over enamoured with high talent, flashy, skilled players that look on the ice. But when it is all said and done, you wonder why they have less production than you would highly expect. Understated can be just as effective as overstated, ie. Finn. That was my point. Both are good I guess, but understated is often overlooked. I am sorry if you feel I am picking on Gally, but since he has come back from his injury 2 regular season games, playoffs, US Camp, and this season, he has not been a PPG player despite obvious talents this player possesses. Am I making any of this up? So yes he needs to start producing like Rielly has atleast, who was in the same injury position of catching up.

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based on the interview with Dallas yesterday:

- he really likes Colborne + Ashton together
- Aucoin - Kadri - Scott seems like a set line at this point
- Fraser + Holzer pairing is staying for sure.
- Mckegg has a leg up on the other young guys to make the team

so a somewhat educated guess at opening night:

Aucoin - Kadri - Scott
Ashton - Colborne - D'amigo
Deschamps - Zigomanis - Mckegg
Komarov - Hamilton - Acton/Abbott

Gardiner - Ranger
Blacker - Gysbers
Fraser - Holzer
Kostka

Scrivens
Rynnas

once Frattin is healthy, look out...that is a great AHL forward group.

This looks right.. I cant see the captain playing on the 4th line though... Kostka will bump gysbers. Swap Deschampes with D'amigo. Wow thats some nice depth. Komarov and Abott breathing down your neck... Frattin coming off the reserve soon... wow lookout. Seems like the lockout may light a few fires. Definitely no entitlement on this team. I definitely do not anticipate Ross making this squad.

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Aucoin - Kadri - Scott
Ashton - Colborne - McKegg
Hamilton - Zigomanis - D'Amigo
Komarov - Abbott - Deschamp

Gardiner - Ranger
Blacker - Fraser
Blacker - Holzer
Kostka

Scrivens
Owuya

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My point was at times some of the posters here get over enamoured with high talent, flashy, skilled players that look on the ice. But when it is all said and done, you wonder why they have less production than you would highly expect. Understated can be just as effective as overstated, ie. Finn. That was my point. Both are good I guess, but understated is often overlooked. I am sorry if you feel I am picking on Gally, but since he has come back from his injury 2 regular season games, playoffs, US Camp, and this season, he has not been a PPG player despite obvious talents this player possesses. Am I making any of this up? So yes he needs to start producing like Rielly has atleast, who was in the same injury position of catching up.
I agree with what you say. I'm glad of the way how our draft went, but I feel it is too early to judge anyone from that draft.

Galchenyuk has been very underwhelming since being drafted though, while Rielly has been a great performer at the Can/Rus challenge, was impressive at our prospects camp and prompted coaches to say he might be ready to go this year..and would have definitely challenged for a job in the main camp.

The one player that got trashed last year...is off to a flyer though. Mikhail Grigorenko. I think he'll be a #1C or be very close to it. Every time I see him play he reminds me of Jason Spezza.

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I agree with what you say. I'm glad of the way how our draft went, but I feel it is too early to judge anyone from that draft.

Galchenyuk has been very underwhelming since being drafted though, while Rielly has been a great performer at the Can/Rus challenge, was impressive at our prospects camp and prompted coaches to say he might be ready to go this year..and would have definitely challenged for a job in the main camp.


The one player that got trashed last year...is off to a flyer though. Mikhail Grigorenko. I think he'll be a #1C or be very close to it. Every time I see him play he reminds me of Jason Spezza.
Agree 100% in the bolded.

However still not sold on Grigs, he is showing a pattern here of playing well when the competition is easiest. Not so much when it isn't. Not sure I like the pattern but we will see.

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When do people think Rielly will be NHL ready?

I think there's a good chance he makes the team out of camp next season.

I also have another question, if Moosejaw is out of the playoffs early (or don't make them at all) this year, would Rielly be allowed to join the Marlies for a playoff run?

If he can I would almost prefer he not get traded to a contender because a Calder Cup run with our prospects would be great for him, and would give him some experience playing against men going into next season.

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I thought last night Finn was awesome. He was definitely deserving of the 1st star honours. He shut down Marchese - Vail - Schoenmakers line. He also moved the puck great, and made some nice passes. That line, more specifically Vail was all over him last night, and Finn never made a mistake. Finn's been great this year. He didn't show the offensive flash that he's shown earlier in the season, but played a very strong defensive game. It felt like he played the entire game.

Garret Sparks looked solid as well. He was never really tested, but he held the fort and made saves when he needed to. I also liked it when Ebert got shoved into him in the last minute of game, and Sparks jumped on top of him .

Now onto Percy. Percy has been freaking awesome this year. He been extremely solid, and honestly, I can't name more than 3 defenceman I would take over him in the OHL. Such a smart player, and I think his offensive ability is underrated.

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When do people think Rielly will be NHL ready?

I think there's a good chance he makes the team out of camp next season.

I also have another question, if Moosejaw is out of the playoffs early (or don't make them at all) this year, would Rielly be allowed to join the Marlies for a playoff run?

If he can I would almost prefer he not get traded to a contender because a Calder Cup run with our prospects would be great for him, and would give him some experience playing against men going into next season.
If it's a shortened season, I'm beginning to wonder if Rielly will make the jump this year. He can get called up and since he has still been playing he will be in game mode already while others ould still have to ease in. Also one of my bigger concerns earlier was that since he missed most of last year, it would take a while for him to get back into game shape. If half the season is cancelled by the time it starts he would already be in game shape. He would still be allowed that 9 game stint so really that could end up being like 1/4th of the season, may not be much harm in keeping him for the rest...

Percy I think last year after his team was knocked out early played for the Marlies, I think Rielly can do that as well.

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I thought last night Finn was awesome. He was definitely deserving of the 1st star honours. He shut down Marchese - Vail - Schoenmakers line. He also moved the puck great, and made some nice passes. That line, more specifically Vail was all over him last night, and Finn never made a mistake. Finn's been great this year. He didn't show the offensive flash that he's shown earlier in the season, but played a very strong defensive game. It felt like he played the entire game.

Garret Sparks looked solid as well. He was never really tested, but he held the fort and made saves when he needed to. I also liked it when Ebert got shoved into him in the last minute of game, and Sparks jumped on top of him .

Now onto Percy. Percy has been freaking awesome this year. He been extremely solid, and honestly, I can't name more than 3 defenceman I would take over him in the OHL. Such a smart player, and I think his offensive ability is underrated.
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Which is great. Think about how many times we've seen defensemen make our goalies look bad (and vice versa too, of course). It's nice to know we've got some smart prospects coming through the pipe-line who can play their role and make things easier on the players around them.

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He's a player that will grow on people I believe, people may recall Sylvain Lefebvre, think of Finn as him with more offensive upside.
I think people are overlooking just how impressive Finn's offensive totals have been so far in his junior career.

If you don't think he's good offensively, you probably should look a little more closely.

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based on the interview with Dallas yesterday:

- he really likes Colborne + Ashton together
- Aucoin - Kadri - Scott seems like a set line at this point
- Fraser + Holzer pairing is staying for sure.
- Mckegg has a leg up on the other young guys to make the team

so a somewhat educated guess at opening night:

Aucoin - Kadri - Scott
Ashton - Colborne - D'amigo
Deschamps - Zigomanis - Mckegg
Komarov - Hamilton - Acton/Abbott

Gardiner - Ranger
Blacker - Gysbers
Fraser - Holzer
Kostka

Scrivens
Rynnas

once Frattin is healthy, look out...that is a great AHL forward group.
Colborne and Ashton together is a no-brainer....and if they play well, them stepping right in to the NHL together as a 3rd line (along with, say, Frattin on the other wing) could turn out very nicely.

I sure hope Kadri is getting the C spot on that line, and not Aucoin. And, for that matter, I'd hope they'd keep McKegg at C until he proves he can't handle the position.

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Plus Mckegg, Ross, and Devane
Acton in as the 4th line C aswell. Seemed to be Dallas' golden boy last year.

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