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Potential Cap Dumps or Amnesty Buy Outs ***From Your Team***

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10-04-2012, 12:20 PM
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Worst case scenario with Bourque is he can be traded for a late pick, he had one bad year and still almost scored 20 goals.. which for $3 million is reasonable and needed for a team who lacks goal scoring.
This is what I was thinking. You can get some value out of Bourque if Montreal decides to trade him. Scott Gomez....you will be lucky if a team decides to stock the soda machine for a year to get him. #moviereferences

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10-04-2012, 01:29 PM
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Volchenkov could and should be the guy is there is such a buyout, which there won't be.
why not there was last time

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Todd Bertuzzi, amnesty buyout.
That's simply not happening.

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10-04-2012, 01:43 PM
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Buyouts: None, maybe Johnny Erskine, who knows.
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Schultz (2.75)
Ward? (3M)
Poti is certainly a buyout candidate. Doubt theyd buy out Erskine.

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10-04-2012, 01:50 PM
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Kings don't really have any. Gagne maybe but he seems to have had surgery to clear up his issues. I'd prefer to keep him around.

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10-04-2012, 01:59 PM
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Buyout Thomas and put Savard on the LTIR. Gets rid of 9m and we're all good.

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The Jackets' cap hit is low enough right now that we might not have to actually move anyone, but Mason's a buyout candidate.

For the record, Wisniewski is not repeat not a buyout candidate. We happen to think he'll do better than 48 games played next year (restricted due to injuries and Shanahan still getting used to the job) and he meshed well with JMFJ.

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10-05-2012, 10:46 AM
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Kings don't really have any. Gagne maybe but he seems to have had surgery to clear up his issues. I'd prefer to keep him around.
I wouldn't buy him out either

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All depends on the rules.

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The Jackets' cap hit is low enough right now that we might not have to actually move anyone, but Mason's a buyout candidate.

For the record, Wisniewski is not repeat not a buyout candidate. We happen to think he'll do better than 48 games played next year (restricted due to injuries and Shanahan still getting used to the job) and he meshed well with JMFJ.
Why bother? He has one year left and then we can be rid of him. No need to buy him out.

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10-05-2012, 12:23 PM
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As a Canuck fan I'd buy out Manny Malhotra. Unfortunate, but he hasn't been near the same since his eye injury and is being paid like a high end 3rd line C, when he hasn't been since the injury.

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Does the ntc clause really matter all that much with Horcoff?
Actually, i meant NMC. With that gone we can at least waive him. He'll be awesome in the AHL.

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10-05-2012, 12:32 PM
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Why bother? He has one year left and then we can be rid of him. No need to buy him out.
The OP is based on the premise of being obligated to make space for whatever reasons one can dream up. I also don't see any point in buying him out myself under present circumstances.

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10-05-2012, 01:21 PM
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Flames: soft deal for Stajan ($3.5 m cap hit, $2.5 m actual salary) might be possible, otherwise buyout. The Anton will simply buy out the Flames, and return to (stay in) Europe.

That gets the Flames to around $60 million.

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The Jackets' cap hit is low enough right now that we might not have to actually move anyone, but Mason's a buyout candidate.

For the record, Wisniewski is not repeat not a buyout candidate. We happen to think he'll do better than 48 games played next year (restricted due to injuries and Shanahan still getting used to the job) and he meshed well with JMFJ.
I wouldn't mind Wizniewski back on the Habs. He's better than Diaz and Weber will ever be and we can afford him. Gauthier would still have his job as GM (I'm glad he's gone) if he had kept Hamrlik and Wizniewski as our 2nd pair of D.

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That's simply not happening.
I can dream, can't I?

Bertuzzi isn't good enough to legitimately belong in a team's top-six, but isn't capable of playing a bottom-six role.

Better players than Bert based on the past couple seasons: Dats, Z, Franzen, Flip, Cleary, Sammy, Helm, Nyquist, Tootoo, Miller, Eaves, Abdelkader.

This does not include Brunner, who may also be better than Bertuzzi at this point. Bertuzzi finishes #12 at best, if Eaves goes to LTIR. A healthy Eaves puts him at #13, and Brunner outplaying him makes him #14. And I'd rather have decent defensive forwards in Emmerton and Mursak taking up those spare forward spots than $2m liability Bertuzzi.

So amnesty buyout, please?

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10-05-2012, 02:52 PM
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I don't think the Flames would use any amnesty buy outs. Stajan and Bouw's contracts only have two years left on them. One, if the lockout lasts all season.

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Oilers, no buyouts necessary.

Hemsky only has 2 years on his contract, Horcoff's NTC expires after the 12/13 season and Whitney because a free agent after the 12/13 season.
Actually your wrong, Horcoff has the following NMC (through 2012-13); NTC (for 2013-14, starting July 1, 2013, player can provide list of 10 teams to which he will accept a trade); no NMC/NTC for 2014-15. Best dump him, and let Lander or VV play or send him down to minors and bury him there in the 2013-15 seasons.

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10-05-2012, 05:26 PM
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Thomas is probably it from the Bs. Maybe Savard but since hes LTIR anyway its not really impacting the cap. We have about 250k in pat eaves buy out left so that maybe too I guess.
I'd think they'd buyout Savard as he kills the offseason cap and just ship Thomas anywhere for futures if necessary

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Does the ntc clause really matter all that much with Horcoff?
His NTC was a demand from the 29 other GMs.

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All depends on the rules.
I was thinking the same thing. Would these players have to go through waivers?

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As a Canuck fan I'd buy out Manny Malhotra. Unfortunate, but he hasn't been near the same since his eye injury and is being paid like a high end 3rd line C, when he hasn't been since the injury.
poor manny, still getting shat on? Look at how ludricuous his minutes/zone starts are and say that again. He produces like an average 3rd liner and easily play the toughest/worst minutes in the league. He went from Selke interest to great shutdown, still well worth his paycheck. He isnt paid to score.

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Poti is certainly a buyout candidate. Doubt theyd buy out Erskine.
Poti can't hurt you from LTIR and we don't know whether he's close to retirement. But yeah, if you have to buy somebody out, then maybe Poti.

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No one for the Sens really. Maybe Daugavins if we can't trade him

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Wouldn't be surprised if Montreal didn't buyout anyone ( Gomez, Kaberle or Bourque). Gomez and Kabs only have 2 years left. Gomez will be paid $5,500,000 for this year if there's a season and $4,500,000 for 2013-14 so it doesn't become a problem for Molson's pockets and Habs rarely go h.a.m on free agents. Kaberle will be $4,250,000 for this year and $4,500,000 for next year with a $4,250,000 cap hit. Bourque $3,000,000; $4,000,000; $2,500,000 ; $2,500,000 for the next 4 years with a $3,333,333. It's not as bad as people think. At this point Gomez and Bourque are tradable for a team that needs to get to the cap floor while not paying the full value of the cap hit. Kaberle is a problem, but Montreal has the $ to handle it. Even with a decrease of the salary cap, I'm pretty sure it'll be high enough for teams still needing to reach the floor. That's my opinion though and I'm pretty sure many habs fans would want Gomez or Kaberle out of Montreal asap

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