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10-05-2012, 10:29 AM
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If I GMed the Kings I really would not touch that. Kadri is semidamaged goods. Bernier is not, even though he hasn't proved a lot.

Markström for Kadri is also complete madness IMO. Markström might be the best golieprospect right now, and even if you won't get much for golies these days I think he's worth a lot more then Kadri.

I would think about Holtby if I got the offer.
Holtby > Bernier, as of now.

Bernier is also more available.

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10-05-2012, 02:27 PM
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Erm, I don't think you realize who's making these threads. Hint: it's not Leafs fans.
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10-05-2012, 03:24 PM
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Remember when leaf fans were offering scraps for turris
how about a 2nd round for kadri then
Remember when Turris held out and demanded that he be traded?

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10-05-2012, 05:14 PM
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Remember when Turris held out and demanded that he be traded?
...the guy with the career high 29 points?

No, frankly he's a little hard to remember.

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10-05-2012, 08:50 PM
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The Leafs aren't in a place to be trading valuable youth in Kadri for a 33 year old Morrow who only has this year left on his deal. Morrow is a win now type of player that contenders trade for. Not playoff hopeful teams like the Leafs.

Besides Morrow is another winger with the wing spot already being the teams greatest strength. Morrow is also over-rated at this point in his career based on his past accomplishments.
They're not. They're downgrading from Kadri to a first in order to upgrade from MacArthur to Morrow. In reality, the case can be made that the first is better for the Leafs than Kadri, simply because Kadri's value is going to plummet if he's not given a spot in the NHL.

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10-05-2012, 10:21 PM
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I'd rather keep Fraser.
This, at least for the time being. Gotta wait and see what more Fraser might have after a very strong rookie showing in the AHL. Pretty sure someone would have to be calling about Fraser for him to moved at this point.

Same goes for Kadri, in a different sense. Competitive, talented top tier prospect, tonnes of potential and only a couple years into his pro career. Playing against better competition during the lockout can't hurt his development either.

Getting JN or BB on the horn to discuss moving these 2 is unlikely at the moment.

Besko's another story all together.

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10-06-2012, 07:00 AM
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Except Kadri's played far better in the AHL than Glennie. Straight swap wouldn't work for the Leafs.
Yes it would.

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10-06-2012, 08:17 AM
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Yes it would.
Why would we go from a .88 PPG player to a .50 PPG player voluntarily?

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10-06-2012, 09:03 AM
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Glennie's had a rough go so far. Missed pretty much every training camp (or at least part of them) with some kind of injury, and he really didn't find his niche until close to the end of the season. If he can consistently play like that, though, it'd be a fair deal for both teams.

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10-06-2012, 09:18 AM
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Glennie's had a rough go so far. Missed pretty much every training camp (or at least part of them) with some kind of injury, and he really didn't find his niche until close to the end of the season. If he can consistently play like that, though, it'd be a fair deal for both teams.
That's a pretty monstrous "if" right there.

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10-06-2012, 11:35 AM
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That's a pretty monstrous "if" right there.
Never said it wasn't. Most Stars fans will agree with you on that one (myself included).

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10-07-2012, 09:19 PM
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Fraser was a undrafted free agent who is turning into a really nice prospect for the Stars. He is definitely a goal scorer. He plays wing and usually finds himself in the right areas. His defensive game needs to come along more before his an NHL regular. He played in 73 games and scored 37 goals in his first AHL season.

Here's a nice write up about his back story if you're interested: http://www.defendingbigd.com/2012/6/...12-matt-fraser
Solid prospect with size.

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10-07-2012, 09:44 PM
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A quick glance at hockey db tells me that Kadri has 81 points in 92 games(.88ppg pace) while Fraser has 55 points in 73 games(.75ppg pace).

Although I'll readily admit I know nothing about Fraser.
Not taking anything away from Kadri and I realize he's a different type of player from Fraser but the latter scored 37 goals as an AHL rookie on a hard-scoring team. I have no idea how either will translate to the next level but they've both had pretty successful runs in the AHL thus far.

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Kadri isnt being moved, at least not soon. His value took a little bit of a hit so there is no point to trade him now. he is more valuable to the leafs than any other team in the league.

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10-09-2012, 07:21 AM
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Hmm Campbell probably isn't a good enough goalie prospect to warrant moving Kadri. I'd include Kadri in a move for one of Bernier/Holtby/Markstrom though (not saying they're the least bit available).
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Kadri won't get you Bernier/Holtby/Markstrom. Not a chance.
Yea. I know. That's why I said the bolded... So thanks for the update?

At this point, Kadri doesn't hold a ton of value in a trade. He does have some, but not anything close to what he used to have. So most trades wouldn't make sense because the return would likely be fairly low with the possibility of the other team getting an absolute steal if Kadri actually does break out.

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10-09-2012, 08:11 AM
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Really don't think we are good trading partners tbh. We both are in a very similar state as to where our organization is.

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10-12-2012, 07:45 AM
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Well since I've been hearing about Dallas Eakins "ripping" into Kadri for not being "in shape" or eating right, what would the Leafs be asking for him.

Would something around this work?


Matt Fraser/ Tyler Beskorowany + '15 4th rounder


Kadri

Get weird.
Kadri worked out with Gary Roberts all summer and ate what Roberts told him to eat. I think your making **** up!

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10-12-2012, 09:07 AM
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Kadri worked out with Gary Roberts all summer and ate what Roberts told him to eat. I think your making **** up!
And you would be wrong.

Welcome to two weeks ago.

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10-12-2012, 09:32 AM
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And you would be wrong.

Welcome to two weeks ago.
to be fair, it doesn't sound at all like he's "ripping" him. Just another, making something out of nothing news story from the Toronto media

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10-12-2012, 11:10 AM
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This is why Eakins should have shut his mouth. Now everyone thinks Kadri is a fat worthless turd.

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10-12-2012, 12:51 PM
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...the guy with the career high 29 points?

No, frankly he's a little hard to remember.
Nazem Kadri has a career high of 12 points.

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