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10-05-2012, 12:58 AM
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No we're more like the Cubs. The Pirates spend nothing year after year.
Cubs=Leafs.

fan base = leafs and canadians (alike yankees and Dodgers)

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10-05-2012, 08:35 AM
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its pretty simple how to make the nhl more profitable. take out 4 team down to 26 or load up on canadian markets (1 or 2 more) and have like 28 teams. NHL doesn't want to screw over Phoenix and now there screwing over the league.
If teams like Phoenix and Columbus are keeping the total revenue pool low, teams like Tampa and Dallas need them right now.

You remove 2 of the worst money-making teams, you'll hurt those franchises who are walking the fine financial line.

I can understand why they won't just contract. It's not really good for anybody.

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10-05-2012, 12:42 PM
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Anyway actually have a number to how much the leafs lose with revenue sharing?
+- $15m I believe. It was speculated to be $12m in 2008. I read an article with pretty good estimates, for the life of me I can't find it anymore.

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10-05-2012, 04:47 PM
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Being the team with the highest revenue and also the only team in all 30 that has not made the playoffs in the past 7 years is, of course, ludicrous and extremely depressing.

However, the problem is not in the salary cap. "Parity" is not a bad thing for Toronto. The problem lies in the early 2000s in management's inability to consider the next generation of Leafs and decision to instead fixate on the older generation. We were competitive at the time but we have paid dearly for the lack of foresight. There is no cap on management, scouting, development, training etc. so the Leafs still have a major advantage. The problem is they have seemingly failed to take advantage of it.

Parity is not what has caused Toronto's downfall. Management has. If the team consistently had top notch management none of us would care about revenue sharing, etc.
The cap ain't helping one bit, who knows what UFAs we could have corralled with no cap.

Would we really care that Komi is our 6th, 7th D?

Parise,Suter come here if we are able to pay each of them 9/10m per?

Richards, is he our #1c now with no cap issues?

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10-05-2012, 04:53 PM
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What is Toronto to the rest of the league?

Well, a cash cow for starters

a laughing stock

No team that Gary needs to fix the draft for

The hurdle to adding 1 or 2 more profitable teams to the league.

A shining example of how not to run a hockey team.

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10-05-2012, 08:52 PM
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You should have been talking about these issues in 2004. MLSE gladly sold out in 2004 for more guarenteed profits. The problem that they have is they traded more profits for having no control over the product they can put on the ice. If you dont draft quality players in a salary capped league you dont get the players. With the complete idiocy in management, Whats to stop them from missing the playoffs for another 8 years? Nothing.

In the end they risk slowly eroding what they have over the long term. If what I mention above comes to fruition you risk losing future generations.

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10-05-2012, 09:05 PM
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10-05-2012, 09:17 PM
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You should have been talking about these issues in 2004. MLSE gladly sold out in 2004 for more guarenteed profits. The problem that they have is they traded more profits for having no control over the product they can put on the ice. If you dont draft quality players in a salary capped league you dont get the players. With the complete idiocy in management, Whats to stop them from missing the playoffs for another 8 years? Nothing.

In the end they risk slowly eroding what they have over the long term. If what I mention above comes to fruition you risk losing future generations.
Toronto was not the reason the nhl lost a season. They are 1 franchise. It is the small market, money-losing teams that benefit most from them.

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10-05-2012, 09:44 PM
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How can there be another answer.


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10-05-2012, 10:45 PM
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Toronto is a team in a league that rewards mediocrity, but still can't even meet that expectation.

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10-06-2012, 06:19 PM
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They (NHL) want parity, but sometimes it's fun to watch the top teams dominate. I really don't see why we don't spend millions on scouting/development/coaching/etc.. when we have the money to. Funny how the NHL complains about losing 100M b/c of preseason cancelled, when it was them who cancelled them.
In free enterprise, if you've got it you should be able to spend it. NBA teams are moving all the time now and it doesn't mean ownership has to change if the team doesn't make it in a certain city.

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10-06-2012, 08:09 PM
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In free enterprise, if you've got it you should be able to spend it. NBA teams are moving all the time now and it doesn't mean ownership has to change if the team doesn't make it in a certain city.
It's not free enterprise though. It's a collection of franchises within an overall organization.

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10-07-2012, 02:33 AM
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Couldn't agree more, get rid of the cap and every man (team) for themselves. I'm sick of seeing us handcuffed by Bettman's folly.
We've been handcuffed since the last lockout because of our inept management, not Bettman.

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