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10-06-2012, 09:24 PM
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I think the more noteworthy news here is that Bryzgalov thinks.
Hilarious, as Bryz comes across as one of the handful of hockey players who seem like they've actually read at least one entire book.

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The flyers brass would be queueing outside the nhl offices, like isheeple outside an Apple store at an iPhone launch, with a petition to get Bryz's contract cancelled.

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Hilarious, as Bryz comes across as one of the handful of hockey players who seem like they've actually read at least one entire book.
Yep, he's definitely one of the smarter players in the league.. Just he speaks him mind a lot and some stuff seems to get lost in translation

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10-06-2012, 11:00 PM
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Oh Bryz...what happened to all of your philosophical universe talk? It's actually quite fitting in this situation. In the grand scheme of things a small rollback of money will mean nothing for the players in a few short years. Remember Bryz, your problem is so small...like nothing. Just be happy. Don't worry...be happy right now.

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I get tired of listening to this type of crap . The KHL is a toy for super rich Russian owners and when they get tired of funding these teams the inflated salaries will dry up . None of the other euro leagues pay anywhere close to what the players earn here so all this talk means means nothing .

The more players coming out making statements the more it makes me believe they're just terrified of the prospect of losing paychecks .

Fehr better understand that this isn't the baseball union and i don't see our players having the resolve to lose a large portion never mind the entire season again in a contract dispute .

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I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a lawsuit from some Russian players to invalidate their contracts in NHL if the new CBA has salary rollbacks etc that would make their current contracts significantly worse financially. I don't think there will be such CBA but if...
And a judge would quickly laugh them out of court - since their current contracts explicitly state that they are subject to the terms of the current and any future CBA.

If the NHLPA agrees to an explicit rollback or an implicit one through higher escrow, a player has zero recourse.

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I can see a small number of Russian players choosing to stay in Russia simply because they're Russian and therefore they enjoy playing/living in their home country, but no one else. The KHL is not a serious professional league.

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My thoughts exactly. Losing Bryz to the KHL would benefit everyone in the NHL including the Flyers......well maybe not Pittsburgh.
Actually it wouldn't. Our top prospect goalie Niko Hovinen (Who is often referred to as Hypinen, for obvious reasons) just gave up 5 goals on 29 shots in the ECHL. Bryz may be bad but he's not that bad.

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Well, it's extremely ironic that, of all people, that point is brought up by Ilya Bryzgalov.

I can sortof relate to what he says --- salary rollback is, IMO, something that should be called by its name (collusion). However, he signed a contract, and there's nothing he can do.

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If Malkin Kovalchuk Ovechkin Datsyuk and Bryz all decided hey I want to play here instead. The KHL would welcome them with open arms and damn the transfer agreement
Sure the KHL would. IIHF wouldn't let it happen though, they have to honor their NHL contracts legally and especially with the transfer agreement. If you have an NHL contract, you have to come back when the lockout is lifted. Russian, Swedish, Canadian, American, Finnish, etc, they all have to come back.

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Well, it's extremely ironic that, of all people, that point is brought up by Ilya Bryzgalov.

I can sortof relate to what he says --- salary rollback is, IMO, something that should be called by its name (collusion). However, he signed a contract, and there's nothing he can do.
It's not collusion when both parties are agreeing to roll back the deal..

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10-07-2012, 12:41 AM
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The only possible wrinkle that might be possible would be if the union decertified. That might possibly leave an option for some players not to join the union when it recertifies.

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The only possible wrinkle that might be possible would be if the union decertified. That might possibly leave an option for some players not to join the union when it recertifies.
The CBA requires them to be in the union somewhat.. They won't be able to play in the league without following the rules of the CBA even if they aren't in the union.. And I believe they still pay union dues

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If Malkin Kovalchuk Ovechkin Datsyuk and Bryz all decided hey I want to play here instead. The KHL would welcome them with open arms and damn the transfer agreement
And they would subsequently be barred from participating in the Olympics, which just so happens to be in Russia. A few years ago Ovechkin stand nothing would prevent him from going over to play, even if the NHL opted to not. Now we are suppose to believe he would throw that all away?

This is merely hot air from disgruntled players lobbying out empty threats in the vain hope they amount to something.

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good riddance.

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I can see a small number of Russian players choosing to stay in Russia simply because they're Russian and therefore they enjoy playing/living in their home country, but no one else. The KHL is not a serious professional league.
Oh god the ignorance,it hurts

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Could you imagine if Bryz stayed there and how great it would be for the Flyers? Hell they should pray that he does stay there.

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I get tired of listening to this type of crap . The KHL is a toy for super rich Russian owners and when they get tired of funding these teams the inflated salaries will dry up . None of the other euro leagues pay anywhere close to what the players earn here so all this talk means means nothing .
Russia's super rich oligarchs don't have the right to "get tired" of funding any of Russia's national projects. It's their penance. They are a bunch of crooks and a necessary evil who do as they are told, otherwise they get to pretend that they are "democracy advocates" with Khandarkovsky in Russian prison.

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His brain is the size of a bean. I actually feel embarrassed for him whenever he talks about anything. It's that bad.
Maybe it is or maybe it's the guys who can't for the life of them produce nothing but cliches whenever they open their mouths publicly, who knows.

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That is legitimately disturbing.

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I guess Ovechkin is not the player who thinks this will happen because now Ilya Bryzgalov also thinks the same thing.
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I can see a small number of Russian players choosing to stay in Russia simply because they're Russian and therefore they enjoy playing/living in their home country, but no one else. The KHL is not a serious professional league.
It is a serious professional league, as is most of the professional leagues in the world. What's the problem with players playing in their home country rather than the NHL?

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And they would subsequently be barred from participating in the Olympics, which just so happens to be in Russia. A few years ago Ovechkin stand nothing would prevent him from going over to play, even if the NHL opted to not. Now we are suppose to believe he would throw that all away?

This is merely hot air from disgruntled players lobbying out empty threats in the vain hope they amount to something.
Simple...any player at anytime can simply file retirement players with the NHL. officially file retirement papers. Ovechkin can at any point simply say, I'm retiring from the NHL. I choose to play for the national team (no pay) for the year 2013-14. In the summer of 2014 after the Olympic and World Championships have concluded Ovechkin can say I'm making a comeback to professional Hockey and Moscow Dynamo is the team I'll play for.

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Simple...any player at anytime can simply file retirement players with the NHL. officially file retirement papers. Ovechkin can at any point simply say, I'm retiring from the NHL. I choose to play for the national team (no pay) for the year 2013-14. In the summer of 2014 after the Olympic and World Championships have concluded Ovechkin can say I'm making a comeback to professional Hockey and Moscow Dynamo is the team I'll play for.
He would still be undercontract with Washington.

You can't just retire to get out of your contract and join a new team if you have a contract that still would be valid had you not retired

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