No, I believe Grubauer, Holzer, Krueger, Kühnhackl and Noebels are the only ones.
And thank you for the insight regarding the quality of the AHL-Teams and the potential roles of the German players. I have followed that league very little in the past. I only kept tabs on the Marlies because of Holzer and Mueller.
Well I'll be watching/attending lots of Marlies games this year with the NHL being locked out. Holzer was one of the best defensemen in the AHL last season and should be in the NHL this year. He's got nothing left to prove down there and should try and use this year to develop his offensive game if he's stuck with the Marlies.
What do you guys think about Leon Draisaitl? Could he be a first round pick in the 2013 NHL draft?
I think it's too early to tell at this point. You don't know how he will handle the long schedule in the WHL. Remember Rieder who was off to a great start and then slowed down, which might have had something to do, with the fact that these players are not used to playing so many games in one season. Combined with his size this was probably one of the main reasons why Rieder was not selected until the 4th round.
But based on his skill level and potential I would say Draisaitl has a realistic chance to be a first round pick, especially since he has two full seasons to get used to everything and work on his weaknesses. He needs to improve his skating particularly.
Size also won't be an issue with Draisaitl. If I had to make a prediction right now I would put him in the late 1st or early 2nd round. This is not where I would rank him right now, which is mid to late 2nd round, but I expect his stock to rise a little.
In the first game he was the backup for Brandon Anderson. I hope he will get his chance as well.
It's a little disappointing, but not all that surprising with all the goalies in Hershey.
Yeah, I was surprised at first about him being send down, but then I remembered that Holtby was back in the AHL because of the lockout, and with Sabourin on the team, there really was no place for Grubauer. If he's doing fine he should be in the AHL once the lockout is over and Holtby returns to the Capitals.
In the first game he was the backup for Brandon Anderson. I hope he will get his chance as well.
It's a little disappointing, but not all that surprising with all the goalies in Hershey.
All a depth game. He'll get more playing time there which is good for his development. As soon as the NHL starts up again he'll be up in the AHL. Washington really likes him and thinks he'll be a good goalie one day. I expect he'll be given a shot in Hershey.
Hmmmm, interesting. I wonder if either would look for a way to be in the DEL instead, should there be an opportunity?
If they could find a team where they would get decent ice time, it might be better for them. Although the level of play in the ECHL will probably be better than usual due to the trickle down effect of the lockout, I am pretty sure the DEL is the better league with better competition.
If they could find a team where they would get decent ice time, it might be better for them. Although the level of play in the ECHL will probably be better than usual due to the trickle down effect of the lockout, I am pretty sure the DEL is the better league with better competition.
Sounds like the perfect candidates for Düsseldorf. Not a deep lineup whatsoever, and they want as much as they need to rely on young talent. Would most likely not really provide them with a winning environment, though.
Sounds like the perfect candidates for Düsseldorf. Not a deep lineup whatsoever, and they want as much as they need to rely on young talent. Would most likely not really provide them with a winning environment, though.
Although DDorf could certainly use some more scoring (holy crap, Kreutzer has one point in seven games???!!!), I think both Hannover and Munich could offer Kuhnhackl and Noebels better minutes and opportunities.
Kuhnhackl and Munich would actually seem like a really logical fit.
I like to see young german kids devolping in the Dnl
Parker Tuomie is awesome this year but needs to get stronger physical
Im really impressed with Mathias Niederbergers (Barrie Colts) younger brother Leon Niederberger who is a phenomenal rookie with amazing speed a huge talent.
Maximilian Kammerer is good as well but he also needs to get stronger .
Other opinions ?
I like to see young german kids devolping in the Dnl
Parker Tuomie is awesome this year but needs to get stronger physical
Im really impressed with Mathias Niederbergers (Barrie Colts) younger brother Leon Niederberger who is a phenomenal rookie with amazing speed a huge talent.
Maximilian Kammerer is good as well but he also needs to get stronger .
Other opinions ?
At least at the moment all indications are that Parker Tuomie will likely have to move on after this season. 29 points in 10 DNL is a pretty crazy statline at this point. Since pretty much no player has done it, we shouldn't expect him to keep up a 3 PPG clip, but what he's doing at his age is wild. It looks like he definitely needs more competition and the physical fitness that will come with that (i.e. a CHL program or an USHL program, if he wants to go the NCAA route that his father did).
Expect him to be playing for Germany internationally this winter/spring and be taken in export drafts by North American leagues (maybe both of them). I'm sure he and his father will then seek out his options.
I'd be curious to hear your take on the other two players you mention per PM, if you feel up to it (ob auf Englisch oder Deutsch).
That actually goes for anybody here who's watching DNL games and would like to discuss what they're seeing.
At least at the moment all indications are that Parker Tuomie will likely have to move on after this season. 29 points in 10 DNL is a pretty crazy statline at this point. Since pretty much no player has done it, we shouldn't expect him to keep up a 3 PPG clip, but what he's doing at his age is wild. It looks like he definitely needs more competition and the physical fitness that will come with that (i.e. a CHL program or an USHL program, if he wants to go the NCAA route that his father did).
Expect him to be playing for Germany internationally this winter/spring and be taken in export drafts by North American leagues (maybe both of them). I'm sure he and his father will then seek out his options.
I'd be curious to hear your take on the other two players you mention per PM, if you feel up to it (ob auf Englisch oder Deutsch).
That actually goes for anybody here who's watching DNL games and would like to discuss what they're seeing.
Since I don't get to watch any games in the DNL, I can only base the following assumption on stats, but is it possible, that Tuomie's stats are a little inflated because of the huge gap between Mannheim and all the other teams?
Last year Berlin seemed to be almost equally good, while this year pretty much every team gets blown out by Mannheim.
So is this because they are much better than last year (with F.Tiffels, Draisaitl and Kahun) or are the other teams worse, or is it a bit of both?
But even if his stats were a bit inflated by playing on a stacked team, it's not like he's coming out of nowhere, since he had very good season in Düsseldorf last year where the team wasn't stacked.
A thousand thanks... any chance we can keep an eye on the win-loss records for those goalies playing in North America?
No problem, glad you like it and I'll add the Win-Loss-Records in a minute.
Currently I am updating the stats for the North American players every day, if they are playing and for the guys in the DNL on every Monday.
I cannot promise I will keep this rate up all season, but there should be no more than a week's delay ever.
Also if anyone would like me to include some other players from the DNL, just post their names and I'll add them to the list.
Since some of the DNL guys also play some games in pro leagues, I might also add their stats in those games at some point if I can find them.
I like to see young german kids devolping in the Dnl
Parker Tuomie is awesome this year but needs to get stronger physical
Im really impressed with Mathias Niederbergers (Barrie Colts) younger brother Leon Niederberger who is a phenomenal rookie with amazing speed a huge talent.
Maximilian Kammerer is good as well but he also needs to get stronger .
Other opinions ?
The only time I have seen any of these guys play was at the World Juniors.
And while my main focus then was on Draisaitl and Kahun, I really liked the game of Tim Bender and Janik Möser. Neither of them is really a physical defenseman, but they are both good skaters, especially Möser, and very dangerously offensively.
In that tournament I also like the physical and relentless play from Denis Shevyrin who appeared to be very good on the penalty kill.
But all this is based on just 5 games I saw, so take it with a grain of salt.
I just updated the North American stats, and corrected a few mistakes.
Some were just errors on my part, others were caused by changes to the scoresheets after I had updated the stats.
Every now and then I will doublecheck my stats like this.
