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10-07-2012, 05:48 PM
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Want one of McDonagh/Staal/Girardi/Stralman/Del Zotto to join Frolunda as well.
Would have to be Girardi (and/or perhaps DZ) because with Duchene we now have two non-EU players on the team, so any other American or Canadian needs dual citizenship from a european contry.

But I doubt Frölunda would take on another not former Frölunda locked out player.

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10-07-2012, 06:04 PM
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Would have to be Girardi (and/or perhaps DZ) because with Duchene we now have two non-EU players on the team, so any other American or Canadian needs dual citizenship from a european contry.

But I doubt Frölunda would take on another not former Frölunda locked out player.
Girardi and/or Del Zotto have dual citizenship?

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10-08-2012, 02:09 AM
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Girardi and/or Del Zotto have dual citizenship?
Girardi has Italian citizenship. Both DZ's parents were born in Italy, so maybe he does as well.

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10-08-2012, 10:32 AM
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The Rangers are not allowed to consult with any players during the lockout. Lundqvist will have to make his own decision.
Henke say that he have to listen to what Rangers want. (They don't want him to go to europe)and that New York is his home now. They are talking contact extentions.
Other issues are, insurance, and taxes in Sweden.

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10-09-2012, 02:07 AM
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Nash will have his comeback today.

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10-09-2012, 03:44 AM
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Girardi has Italian citizenship. Both DZ's parents were born in Italy, so maybe he does as well.
Didn't know that--thanks for the info.

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10-09-2012, 02:23 PM
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"Ryan McDonagh may be heading to the KHL to play for HC Barys"

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10-09-2012, 02:44 PM
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Don't like our young players playing in the KHL.

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10-09-2012, 03:19 PM
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Don't like our young players playing in the KHL.
Oh please.

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A third New York Ranger has signed in Europe: Ryan McDonagh has inked with HC Barys in KHL, leaves tonight

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10-09-2012, 03:36 PM
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Oh please.
My thoughts exactly.

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10-09-2012, 03:39 PM
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Don't like our young players playing in the KHL.
I agree with you.

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10-09-2012, 03:47 PM
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Anyone griping about players playing in other leagues is worried about the wrong thing.

It's more damaging for a player to sit for a long period of time then it is to play hockey in another league.

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10-09-2012, 03:50 PM
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Don't like our young players playing in the KHL.
The KHL is probably the most competitive hockey league in the world currently operating right now.

Cant wait to hear the reasoning of why people hate this.

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10-09-2012, 03:54 PM
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The KHL is probably the most competitive hockey league in the world currently operating right now.

Cant wait to hear the reasoning of why people hate this.
They think he's going to die.

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10-09-2012, 03:59 PM
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They think he's going to die.
Oh right.

As long as he stays off the planes and doesnt blood dope, he'll be fine.

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10-09-2012, 04:07 PM
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They think he's going to die.
Your making an extreme statement here but yes, safety is a concern.

We all know the terrible situation with Cherepanov and don't need to rehash that. But a professional arena without a working AED and ambulance on standby is truly unbelievable.

More recently, check out this video of former Ranger prospect Mikhail Pashnin getting laid out (5:35). As The Dark Passenger wisely observed in the Prospect thread, it is again unbelievable that his head/neck was not immobilized on the stretcher.



And finally, the risk of Russian air travel. It "could" definitely happen anywhere, heck you could get hit by a bus every day you leave your apartment in NYC. But the facts are that the risks increase in Russia, they had nine (yes, NINE) fatal commercial airline crashes in 2011.

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Russian fatalities and crashes, adjusted for air-traffic volumes, this year exceed those in less developed countries with longstanding safety problems, including Congo and Indonesia, according to aviation consultants Ascend in London
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10-09-2012, 04:08 PM
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The KHL is probably the most competitive hockey league in the world currently operating right now.

Cant wait to hear the reasoning of why people hate this.
Lack of fighting regulations. Also some teams don't follow safety regulations either, some trainers just don't cut it, safety equipment is sometimes outdated, even with the freak plane accident it was because the plane was so old it malfunctioned. I'm sure some people fear that players over there have a me-first mentality too, rather than a team-first mentality, which can also rub off negatively on Rangers players if enough go over there too.

On the flip side, right now that league is clearly the most talented and competitive. It would be best because they'd be conditioned going into our own season and they'll be playing at nearly the level of competition they would face here. Russian players are also bigger on raw skill than grind it out hockey, and whereas a poor attitude may have a negative effect on the players, a more creative attitude and training with such athletes can have a positive effect, talent wise. Players can adopt playing styles, progress and mature too.

Positives and negatives. I would say most people tend to be negative though first and foremost for player safety. Bad experience with Cherepanov and all the ex-NHLers on that plane definitely shook a lot of people (especially Rangers fans, because our top prospects tragically passed away due to lack of clear testing/lack of up-to-date medical equipment).

Unwarranted fears because those are freak accidents. But nevertheless those things happened and i'm sure make people afraid of our own players going to play there too.

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Oh right.

As long as he stays off the planes and doesnt blood dope, he'll be fine.
Cherepanov wasn't doping. Get your facts straight before you start defaming people.

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Oh right.

As long as he stays off the planes and doesnt blood dope, he'll be fine.
Pretty sure he was doing the blood transfusions to improve his health condition.

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10-09-2012, 04:25 PM
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Cherepanov wasn't doping. Get your facts straight before you start defaming people.
Right, besides the Russian investigators sighting blood and urine samples confirming that he was. Must just be a huge conspiracy.

Its a tragedy the kid died. Its a tragedy that he was allowed to play professional hockey with a serious heart condition. These things are probably all connected and likely why he did turn to blood doping.

But that doesnt mean you're entitled to your own facts on this.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...od-doping.html

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10-09-2012, 04:26 PM
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Cherepanov wasn't doping. Get your facts straight before you start defaming people.
What are the straight facts then?

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And finally, the risk of Russian air travel. It "could" definitely happen anywhere, heck you could get hit by a bus every day you leave your apartment in NYC. But the facts are that the risks increase in Russia, they had nine (yes, NINE) fatal commercial airline crashes in 2011.
I'm sure that's a high number, but I think you'll agree the risk of McDonagh dying in a plane crash is negligible.

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Pretty sure he was doing the blood transfusions to improve his health condition.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you need blood transfusions you shouldn't be playing hockey.

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10-09-2012, 04:29 PM
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I'm sure that's a high number, but I think you'll agree the risk of McDonagh dying in a plane crash is negligible.
I agree it's not likely, but it is more likely. And the rest of my post speaks for itself. There are definitely increased safety/health risks.

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10-09-2012, 04:33 PM
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I agree it's not likely, but it is more likely. And the rest of my post speaks for itself. There are definitely increased safety/health risks.
Are they really worth worrying about?

The benefits of playing in a competitive league like the KHL far, far outweigh these risks.

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