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10-08-2012, 03:48 PM
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So Saturday?
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10-08-2012, 03:49 PM
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Best of luck to Dutchy, I'm not a big Elitseren follower, but I'll try to see as many Frolunda games online as I can.

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10-08-2012, 10:59 PM
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So he's not supposed to play? whats your suggestion?
Actually, I don't believe NHL players should seek employment elsewhere...

I understand what you are saying regarding them being "locked-out" by the owners but let's face it...the owners only locked them out because they don't have a CBA. The players were free to start negotiations at any time...they chose to wait until the 11th hour. Both sides wanted this.

I just feel sorry for the poor schlubs in other leagues who have lost jobs to NHL players who should've been playing in NHL. Call it what you want and feel free to disagree...but I've lost a ton of respect for any NHL player seeking a job elsewhere instead of demanding their boss get the CBA issue resolved ASAP.

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10-09-2012, 11:27 AM
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Actually, I don't believe NHL players should seek employment elsewhere...

I understand what you are saying regarding them being "locked-out" by the owners but let's face it...the owners only locked them out because they don't have a CBA. The players were free to start negotiations at any time...they chose to wait until the 11th hour. Both sides wanted this.

I just feel sorry for the poor schlubs in other leagues who have lost jobs to NHL players who should've been playing in NHL. Call it what you want and feel free to disagree...but I've lost a ton of respect for any NHL player seeking a job elsewhere instead of demanding their boss get the CBA issue resolved ASAP.
This just seems silly to me. The players' union certainly deserves a lot of the blame for the lockout, but players already have a professional with a limited shelf life in which to earn money, so if they can't do it in the NHL they should go elsewhere to find employment.

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10-09-2012, 01:39 PM
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It's ridiculous to say the players shouldn't seek employment elsewhere. Only 4 percent of NHL players dress for 1000+ games. Over half play less than 100. As the previous poster said, the time to actually earn money (and y'know, enjoy being a professional hockey player) is short.

I'm sure those of you saying the players shouldn't run to Europe during the lockout would happily sit on your hands if you were an NHL player right now.

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10-09-2012, 06:07 PM
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Actually, I don't believe NHL players should seek employment elsewhere...

I understand what you are saying regarding them being "locked-out" by the owners but let's face it...the owners only locked them out because they don't have a CBA. The players were free to start negotiations at any time...they chose to wait until the 11th hour. Both sides wanted this.

I just feel sorry for the poor schlubs in other leagues who have lost jobs to NHL players who should've been playing in NHL. Call it what you want and feel free to disagree...but I've lost a ton of respect for any NHL player seeking a job elsewhere instead of demanding their boss get the CBA issue resolved ASAP.
Those scrubs are usually junior players who just keep playing in J20 leagues or get loaned out to a team in a 2nd division or some other league or anywhere so it's not like they're losing their jobs. Most European teams don't employ 4th line goon scrubs that are gonna lose a job when another player comes in.

Players are doing the right thing, in fact they should've been taking Swedish lessons and or whatever in the summer and then signed on to play in Sweden or Germany or Switzerland as soon as they could. The guys who are waiting around are making a mistake, sooner they get going the better because this won't get resolved until at least late November if even.

Demanding their boss and playing abroad aren't mutually exclusive, they can still take part in negotiations via technology and message Fehr or whomever they want. Besides, not like they get much say outside of a vote, it's basically the main NHLPA negotiators (the Fehr brothers) doing what they think is right and then telling the players that it's right negotiating against Bettman and a small NHL negotiation committee with a few owners telling other owners what is right.

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I don't think playing in a smaller league will help Duchene at all.

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10-09-2012, 07:33 PM
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I don't see how any (established) player would benefit from playing in a "smaller" league. Given the circumstances and the Swedish style this was probably the best move Duchene could make.

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I don't think playing in a smaller league will help Duchene at all.
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"I'm treating Frolunda like it's my team for this season."

Great attitude. Seems like a great guy. His teammates already love him judging from the mood at practice.

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I always liked Duchene from the 1st Game I saw him playing.
His agility and stick skills are just cool.

Hopefully he'll make a good season there until we finally have a CBA (fingers crossed) - and help the AVs to come back to the playoffs

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"I'm treating Frolunda like it's my team for this season."

Great attitude. Seems like a great guy. His teammates already love him judging from the mood at practice.
He seems to be a really likeable person (until he brings up country music ) but I would attribute a lot of that due to his lack of a 'take charge' attitude. Which isn't a bad thing, just an observation.

It's a misconception that Duchene is a strong leader or was in line for the Avs Captaincy, in many ways he's a very immature person still and lacks the seriousness/mental fortitude it requires to take his game to the next level.

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10-11-2012, 05:05 AM
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Frölunda just signed Viktor Stålberg (Chicago Blackhawks).

Now there is a decent linemate for Duchene.

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Duchene practiced on a line with Stalberg and Brunnstrom today. Still no news on his work permit.

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10-12-2012, 05:06 AM
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The papers are done. Duchene will play the next game.

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The papers are done. Duchene will play the next game.
Awesome. Looking forward to hearing abou his first game.

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Matt: "I play an NHL style of game..."

Good....

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Matt: "I play an NHL style of game..."

Good....
He really meant OHL though. Cant wait for the spin moves this season

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10-13-2012, 08:33 AM
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Duchenes game starts in exactly 4 hours.

18:30 swedish time.

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Would love a stream to be posted here.

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Would love a stream to be posted here.
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/sport/ice-hockey.html


Looks like they will stream. Start 6:30PM here, if I remember it right it 8 hours difference from Denver


Edit: Found another one too

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The majority of swedes who pronounces it "Matt Du-Sheen" scares me.

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