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Top 50: Emerson Etem leads a middle group stocked with defensemen

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10-10-2012, 02:25 PM
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That is crazy, not sure how much they watch european hockey. I also find it odd that they ranked Forsberg ahead of Galchenyuk and Teuvo top 10 before the draft and now they will likely put Galchenyuk top 10, they have Forsberg at 24, and they put Teravainen at 50?
Lots of people regard Jarnkrok higher than Nyquist. He'll likely hit the NHL faster than it took Nyquist, and Hakan has been saying he wont need any AHL time.

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10-10-2012, 02:25 PM
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Looks like Jarnkrok doesn't make the list at all. Sad.
Atleast their consistent by leaving Johan Larsson off as well.

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10-10-2012, 02:26 PM
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Maybe Schenn and RNH are both left off.
Schenn is over the games played limit and is obviously not included. But we still had 22 players left for 20 spots. If you eliminate Nieds... there are 21 players for 20 spots. Hence people are now saying maybe RNH isn't being included

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10-10-2012, 02:28 PM
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For comparisons sake, this was the top 50 list HFBoarders voted in:

17 out of the top 20, with Silfverberg going from 14 on ours to 40 in theirs, and Schultz and Scheifle and falling into the 20's and 30's respectively.


1. Nail Yakupov-RW EDM (45%)
T2. Vladimir Tarasenko-RW STL (25%)
T2. Mikael Granlund-C MIN (25%)
4. Jonathan Huberdeau-C FLA (30%)
5. Evgeny Kuznetsov-C/RW WSH (38%)
6. Dougie Hamilton-D BOS (37%)
7. Alex Galchenyuk-C MTL (19%)
8. Ryan Murray-D CBJ (30%)
9. Chris Kreider-LW/C NYR (14%)
T10. Mikhail Grigorenko-C BUF (13%)

T10. Jaden Schwartz-C STL (13%)
12. Sven Baertschi-LW CGY (18%)
13. Morgan Rielly-D TOR (16%)
14. Jakob Silfverberg-LW OTT (13%)
15. Jacob Markstrom-G FLA (24%)
16. Brandon Gormley-D PHO (20%)
17. Mika Zibanejad-C OTT (15%)
T18. Justin Schultz-D EDM (16%)
T18. Griffin Reinhart-D NYI (16%)
T20. Mark Scheifele-C WPG (11%)

T20. Brendan Smith-D DET (11%)
22. Braden Holtby-G WSH (22%)
23. Ryan Strome-C NYI (16%)
24. Filip Forsberg-C/RW WSH (26%)
25. Emerson Etem-C ANA (16%)
26. Matt Dumba-D MIN (15%)
27. Joe Morrow-D PIT (13%)
28. Ryan Ellis-D NSH (15%)
T29. Brandon Saad-LW CHI (21%)
T29. Jonas Brodin-D MIN (21%)

T30. Ryan Murphy-D CAR (12%)
T30. Oscar Klefbom-D EDM (12%)
33. Charlie Coyle-C MIN (22%)
34. Teuvo Teravainen-LW CHI (11%)
35. Zack Kassian-RW VAN (15%)
36. Nick Bjugstad-C FLA (14%)
37. Robin Lehner-G OTT (14%)
38. David Rundblad-D PHO (31%)
T39. Joel Armia-RW BUF (14%)
T39. Gustav Nyquist-C DET (14%)

41. Simon Despres-D PIT (12%)
42. Jacob Trouba-D WPG (15%)
43. Sami Vatanen-D ANA (15%)
44. Nathan Beaulieu-D MTL (15%)
45. Kyle Palmieri-C ANA (19%)
46. Hampus Lindholm-D ANA (13%)
47. Radek Faksa-C DAL (15%)
48. Calle Jarnkrok-C DET (23%)
49. Ty Rattie-RW STL (15%)
50. Mark Stone-RW OTT (20%)

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10-10-2012, 02:32 PM
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How does Klefbom fall 8 spots and behind Beaulieu?

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10-10-2012, 02:34 PM
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How does Klefbom fall 8 spots and behind Beaulieu?
I think the real question is, what did he do to deserve 21 in the first place?

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10-10-2012, 02:38 PM
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My guess would be Neidereiter and Grigorenko, with Dumba being a possibility.
There is no way that Grigorenko and Dumba are outside of the top 50, Neiterreiter is almost surely out ofthe top 50 though.

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How is Baertschi behind Strome and Etem?

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10-10-2012, 02:45 PM
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How is Baertschi behind Strome and Etem?
He isn't, Etem is already listed, and neither Strome nor Baertschi have been yet.

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I don't know why Klefbom and Brodin fell below Beaulieu. At the very least Klefbom should have stayed where he was, but IMO he should have risen. I'd take Brodin over both any day of the week. Also I'd take Ryan Murphy over Beaulieu too. He should have been higher than 36th.

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He isn't, Etem is already listed, and neither Strome nor Baertschi have been yet.
Whoops didn't see that They were quoting an older post.

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Great that Beaulieu is still there. I was afraid that HF would drop the ball.

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There is no way that Grigorenko and Dumba are outside of the top 50, Neiterreiter is almost surely out ofthe top 50 though.
I mean someone has to not be. There are 21 prospects acknowledged around here that are left and only 20 spots. And thats after you exclude Niederreiter. So if not Grigs or Dumba, who on that last do you think was left off instead.


Unless of course RNH is not being included though... thats what most people are assuming at this point.

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I heard Morgan Rielly is out of top 50


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I haven't see a single Dallas Stars' prospect on this list so far...

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For comparisons sake, this was the top 50 list HFBoarders voted in:

17 out of the top 20, with Silfverberg going from 14 on ours to 40 in theirs, and Schultz and Scheifle and falling into the 20's and 30's respectively.
The fan voted one was pretty bad but the HF one is worse.

It really makes no sense, but then again most prospect lists suck. The logic for the ranking on the HF one however are pretty bad. Why is Etem, a guy with very questionable hockey sense at 21, because he got 50 goals in 50 games? Why is a guy like Beaulieu ahead of Murphy despite Murphy being better in every facet of his game and nearly a year younger.

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The fan voted one was pretty bad but the HF one is worse.

It really makes no sense, but then again most prospect lists suck. The logic for the ranking on the HF one however are pretty bad. Why is Etem, a guy with very questionable hockey sense at 21, because he got 50 goals in 50 games? Why is a guy like Beaulieu ahead of Murphy despite Murphy being better in every facet of his game and nearly a year younger.
Have you watched Murphy play?

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10-10-2012, 03:25 PM
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Beaulieu is right where he should be.

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I have no idea what these rankings are based on.

Klefbom and Brodin - two guys who might end up as solid 2nd pair dmen if things go right (but have major areas of weakness to work upon to get there) - are top-30 prospects?

craziness.

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How does Klefbom fall 8 spots and behind Beaulieu?
How does a skinny Klefbom with little offensive upside and questionable defense even make the top-50?

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Have you watched Murphy play?
Of course I have. Have you?

Murphy is the better player in every facet. There are no arguments against this. He's a better skater, a better defender, a better powerplay player, a smarter player, a better penalty killer, a better everything. The only thing Beaulieu has on him is size and it's not like Beaulieu uses his size all that well anyway.

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I have no idea what these rankings are based on.

Klefbom and Brodin - two guys who might end up as solid 2nd pair dmen if things go right (but have major areas of weakness to work upon to get there) - are top-30 prospects?

craziness.
Brodin a second pair dman if things DO go right?

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I have no idea what these rankings are based on.

Klefbom and Brodin - two guys who might end up as solid 2nd pair dmen if things go right (but have major areas of weakness to work upon to get there) - are top-30 prospects?

craziness.
I would love to hear what Brodin's supposed areas of weakness are.

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In no way or shape Klefbom is a better player than Beaulieu.


And Murphy isn't a better skater than Beaulieu. Frankly, whe you are 6'3 you can't really skate better than Beaulieu. His lateral mobility, feet quickness etc are amazing.

So much clueless poster about the prospect sometimes. Murphy isn't a better defender and PKer than Beaulieu. Just not. And I'd even argue that Beaulieu upside offensively is quite more likely to reaching it than Murphy. But the guy is a homer... calling Murphy almost a year younger than Beaulieu... They are from the same draft...December 5th and March 31th. Thats 3 and a half ****ing months. Give me a break with the year of developement ahead. Smh.

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I would love to hear what Brodin's supposed areas of weakness are.
Shot. Which he can obviously improve.

Size. Which he can and has overcome with he's excellent hockey IQ.

Brodin's upside is much more than 2nd pairing Dman, imo.

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