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Top 3 goalies of the last 3 decades

View Poll Results: who is the best goalie in the last 30 years
Marty Brodeur 24 11.11%
Patrick Roy 60 27.78%
Dominic Hasek 132 61.11%
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10-10-2012, 03:05 PM
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Hasek AINEC.

Roy had some great playoff runs, but even those were on very good teams (yes, even the Montreal ones).

If we go by "peak" there's not even a question. When you take the top five seasons played by the three of these guys combined, Hasek holds at least three of them, likely the top three. Probably four, if not all five. His absolute dominance over the league in the 90s was nothing Roy or Brodeur could touch.

Brodeur being up against Hasek in a "who's better" poll is actually kind of silly. They played in the league together for almost twenty years. We know who's better.

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10-10-2012, 03:18 PM
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Scott Stevens
Scott Niedermayer
Brian Rafalski
Ken Daneyko
+ the trap
At this point, Brodeur has played almost 50% of his career without any of those.

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10-10-2012, 05:44 PM
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I moved your Poll to the Polls sections (go figure).
My apologies Oddjob , I made this when I was tired. Thanks for the move.

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10-10-2012, 05:47 PM
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Hasek has one this poll for the last few years every time it is done by a landslide. It is done once a week! It must end!
As he should. And Roy should two this poll.

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10-10-2012, 05:59 PM
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Hasek
Roy
Brodeur

Dom is the best goalie ever.

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10-10-2012, 07:20 PM
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Hasek by far.

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10-10-2012, 07:38 PM
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Hasek joined the NHL at age 26 and played in 735 NHL games.

Roy age 19, 1029 NHL games.
Brodeur age 21, 1191 NHL games.

Hasek's "career" was longer, but his NHL career was much shorter, and the NHL is the only place we can directly compare those 3 goalies.
Yeah, Hasek clearly wasn't the calibre of an NHL starter when he left the NHL for the last time. And while I'm sure he was NHL-calibre (and maybe star calibre) before coming over, I highly doubt that he was at the age of 16.

And while I think he was probably

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10-10-2012, 07:50 PM
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I always sway between Hasek and Roy. But I'd say Brodeur is definitely a clear step behind them.

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10-10-2012, 07:54 PM
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Roy.

Hasek basically played his entire career in the dead puck era.
Roy played a bunch of those years too, and on better teams than Dom. Dom was easily better than Roy head-to-head in that time span.

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10-10-2012, 09:23 PM
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Roy
Brodeur
Hasek.
I see it the same way that most of the top hockey knowledgeable people from N.A. see it.

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Roy
Brodeur
Hasek.
I see it the same way that most of the top hockey knowledgeable people from N.A. see it.
I see what you did there.

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10-10-2012, 09:46 PM
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Is this honestly a thread again? I havent been here long and I've lost count on how many times this has popped up.
At least once a month, with the same results every time

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10-10-2012, 09:59 PM
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Hasek's NHL career was shorter, and the Buffalo teams he played on in his prime were just not good enough to win the cup (even with the phenomenal goaltending he provided almost constantly in the regular season and playoffs), but I feel like he was fairly clearly better at keeping the puck out of the net than Roy or Brodeur, and ultimately that's the best measure of a goaltender. I voted for Hasek.

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10-10-2012, 10:02 PM
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Roy
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Hasek
Guess we all have our own opinions...

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Damn, Brodeur is underrated.

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10-11-2012, 03:05 AM
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There has been quite a few of these threads/polls and some good debate on them. I tried to shove Hasek down to the Roy campers throat and failed miserably. I started to look in to it a bit more and found out that Hasek and Roy are actually very very close.

Hasek has the highest regular season peak of all time. I think it is safe to say it. He also was good playoff performer and showed flashes of brilliance. He has 6 vezina's and is remembered to be a great athletic goalie.
I always went with the flow in europe and said Hasek is the best of all-time. (modern goalies) But if you go ahead and look for articles and analysis from NA you will find that Roy is close to consensus number 1 in professional writers opinions. There is some odd votes for both Brodeur and Hasek but Roy has so significant lead there that it has to mean something. Bias or no bias.

I think i would safely put Hasek at the number 1 spot if he would have played few seasons more in the NHL. I think 900+games would be in that range where he could pull ahead of Roy. But i feel like it is not enough at this point to make him clear cut #1.

Sure he did have the highest peak and was the best player in the world for few years. And that is why i rank him at number 1. But Roy being superior post-season performer and superstar goalie in the regular season makes this close. Also Roy played about 300 more games in the regular season. It has to count for something.

My vote is Hasek but i can see why someone would take Roy.

(Man it is bitter to eat own words. )

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10-11-2012, 12:09 PM
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I think it's obviously Broduer. He owns like every record possible for a goalie so it's him without a doubt

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10-11-2012, 12:53 PM
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At this point, Brodeur has played almost 50% of his career without any of those.
Yeah, but until last season, his playoff success, had virtually disappeared with them. He's been a consistently very-good-to-great goaltender who's only playoff success came as a second or third fiddle and who needed the other two guys in this thread out of the league/in the twilight of their careers in order to win his individual trophies.

His numbers and individual accomplishments on mediocre teams with poor defensive personnel(although Madden-Pando had a good 05-06 and the Devils staff was composed of many above average defensive coaches) after the lockout put him in the conversation and dispel the assertion that he was a product of stacked Devils bluelines + the trap, but he doesn't have Hasek's insane peak, didn't really carry his Vezina years into the postseason, and doesn't have the playoff transcendence of Roy.

The only criteria that really puts Marty at the top completely overvalues longevity and undervalues the fact that Marty was worse than both Dom and Patrick when they played at the same time and that he has a lower peak than either.

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10-11-2012, 04:13 PM
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Yeah, but until last season, his playoff success, had virtually disappeared with them. He's been a consistently very-good-to-great goaltender who's only playoff success came as a second or third fiddle and who needed the other two guys in this thread out of the league/in the twilight of their careers in order to win his individual trophies.

His numbers and individual accomplishments on mediocre teams with poor defensive personnel(although Madden-Pando had a good 05-06 and the Devils staff was composed of many above average defensive coaches) after the lockout put him in the conversation and dispel the assertion that he was a product of stacked Devils bluelines + the trap, but he doesn't have Hasek's insane peak, didn't really carry his Vezina years into the postseason, and doesn't have the playoff transcendence of Roy.

The only criteria that really puts Marty at the top completely overvalues longevity and undervalues the fact that Marty was worse than both Dom and Patrick when they played at the same time and that he has a lower peak than either.
Well, it's not like Hasek was winning Cups without a stacked team himself.

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10-11-2012, 04:16 PM
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Damn, Brodeur is underrated.
That most people pick Hasek and Roy over Brodeur doesn't mean that Brodeur is underrated.

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Hasek

Roy


Brodeur.

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I think it's obviously Broduer. He owns like every record possible for a goalie so it's him without a doubt
Records aren't the be-all end-all.

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