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NHL to Expand 2 teams in Canada - THN

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10-11-2012, 02:07 PM
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Doing the Wild Card thing just confuses things. Have 16 as it's easy. 16/8/4/2/1
Hey, maybe they do it that way: 16 teams per conference EVERYONE gets into the playoffs-we'll just play 82 games for seeding purposes

Seriously, I agree 16 is much easier, unfortunately I see with potential playoffs $$$$ to more teams in that scenario, the owners will go for it

And maybe-just MAYBE-Toronto makes the playoffs

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10-11-2012, 02:12 PM
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Okay i'm not buying this why in the world would they expand two more teams in canada and ignore Seattle altogether. Unless they plan to move phx to seattle this doesn't make sense to me.

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10-11-2012, 02:12 PM
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quebec, for sure. and i can see the markham badgers play at the acc for a couple of years until the motoroladome is finished, but i can more easily see the tigers playing at copps right now.

i do agree with killion's theory tho', that belgers would likely have had to sign off on any and all objections to GTA2 when they were approved to purchase mlse.

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10-11-2012, 02:14 PM
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Doubt this is true but it could be interesting..

With more canadian teams, revenue goes up and so would the cap.

Players get more money and more jobs

Or the NHL uses this to freeze salaries while effectively getting the players shares down

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The Tweet is from the guy running the story in the Oct 29th edition of the Hockey News, Jason Kay.
He's the Editor-in-Chief of THN btw.

Agreed though, is it more fluff than fact to sell more copy...we'll see I guess.
I just wonder why not have this story on The Hockey News Mobile App because that's why I previously mentioned it. If it's true I think it's something that shouldn't wait until their October 29th edition to be released.

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10-11-2012, 02:15 PM
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I don't believe this because don't the Maple Leafs have a say on if another team was to start up in the Toronto area?
Well for one thing the NHL has steadfastily said that no team has veto power, they have as much vote as anyone else.

Regardless of that who just bought the Leafs? The two largest media companies in Canada. They would likely ratehr have an additional 42 games to broadcast on their networks over the minimal fan loss to a new team in the area.

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I fully support an expansion of two teams.

I believe that one in Quebec would immediately garner a massive following; the passion of Nordiques fans was never in question, and the attendance even during horrid years reflected that.

I wouldn't mind southern Ontario, mostly because I would love for there to FINALLY be some clarification on the 50-mile radius.

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Well for one thing the NHL has steadfastily said that no team has veto power, they have as much vote as anyone else.

Regardless of that who just bought the Leafs? The two largest media companies in Canada. They would likely ratehr have an additional 42 games to broadcast on their networks over the minimal fan loss to a new team in the area.
And said media companies paid a princely sum for the Leafs on the understanding that they just locked up the only NHL home games in Toronto. Slapping another team in Toronto immediately devalues their investment.

Nope, this rumor doesn't pass the smell test.

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Eww, as if the limited talent pool isn't spread thin enough already...

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Didn't they also say Winnipeg would never get an NHL team?

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Well for one thing the NHL has steadfastily said that no team has veto power, they have as much vote as anyone else.

Regardless of that who just bought the Leafs? The two largest media companies in Canada. They would likely ratehr have an additional 42 games to broadcast on their networks over the minimal fan loss to a new team in the area.
So who ever said the Leafs and Sabres have teritory rights over Hamilton not getting an NHL team is wrong?

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10-11-2012, 02:24 PM
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IMO the only expansions would be quebec and Seattle. I don't see another Toronto team via expansion unless quebec or Seattle get a team via relocation.

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10-11-2012, 02:25 PM
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And said media companies paid a princely sum for the Leafs on the understanding that they just locked up the only NHL home games in Toronto. Slapping another team in Toronto immediately devalues their investment.

Nope, this rumor doesn't pass the smell test.
That's a great observation and I agree 100% with your comments.

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10-11-2012, 02:27 PM
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I don't know about expanding to 32 teams. I won't complain if there's 2 new Canadian teams, but is it really necessary given the current status of the league?

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10-11-2012, 02:28 PM
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So who ever said the Leafs and Sabres have teritory rights over Hamilton not getting an NHL team is wrong?
No, I would assume any team having their territorial rights infringed will be compensated quite handsomely.

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I don't know about expanding to 32 teams. I won't complain if there's 2 new Canadian teams, but is it really necessary given the current status of the league?
It could put more money into revenue sharing.. Players would love it

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10-11-2012, 02:30 PM
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I am all for Canada getting 2 more teams.

I am completely against expansion. The talent is too diluted already. Relocate 2 losing clubs from the USA.

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10-11-2012, 02:32 PM
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I am all for Canada getting 2 more teams.

I am completely against expansion. The talent is too diluted already. Relocate 2 losing clubs from the USA.
And tick off NBC in the process? I don't think so.

One of those relocated teams is going to Seattle baring any issues that results in the Sodo arena not being built. Seattle is on top of the relocation list.

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10-11-2012, 02:32 PM
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20 teams in the play-offs would be terrible to organise. 16 is perfect.
Agreed.
I don't see more than 16 teams in the playoffs until we have a 40 team league, then you can have a 32-lteam playoffs.
And 40 teams is probably 20 years away

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10-11-2012, 02:35 PM
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I am all for Canada getting 2 more teams.

I am completely against expansion. The talent is too diluted already. Relocate 2 losing clubs from the USA.
I don't believe talent is diluted. I'd argue that the league has never had such a deep talent pool.
The way kids are skating as 5 and 6 year olds today....

The NHL has never had a deeper talent pool.

the only real threat to the talent pool is the KHL. They're going to steal the NHL's star European players.

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10-11-2012, 02:36 PM
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If THN truly had any inside information, then it would be published right away. Nobody who has 'Breaking News' waits two weeks a fortnight to publish it. My guess is that the article will be based purely on concurrence and speculation, maybe some quotes from former executives to top it off.

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Can't have an expansion. Talent pool is too diluted. If anything, it would be a relocation. QC and Seattle, not Toronto or anywhere in the GTA, it would happen in the future when NHL becomes successful in locking southern markets and make them profitable, which probably would take 100 years, relax I'm exaggerating, it would take 50 years.

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And tick off NBC in the process? I don't think so.

One of those relocated teams is going to Seattle baring any issues that results in the Sodo arena not being built. Seattle is top of the relocation list.
I would have to think that given Seattle's arena deal (NBA tam required to build), Seattle could dip below QUE/SEA if the NHL is using expansion as a CBA negotiating tool.

Expansion creates a big bargaining chip. They'd be trading an item from their CBA wish list for three players 19-25 on their organizational depth chart.

What's the interest level in Montreal (Canadiens ownership, fans, etc) in an NBA team?

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The cap dilutes talent way more than expansion would.

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Okay i'm not buying this why in the world would they expand two more teams in canada and ignore Seattle altogether. Unless they plan to move phx to seattle this doesn't make sense to me.
Because teams in Canada will make more money then a team in Seattle

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