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10-11-2012, 04:11 PM
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Although Seattle has the Seahawks, Mariners, University of Washington, and Washington State. Not to mention a possible NBA team. How many markets in the US is the NHL #1 if there are other sports there?
Ahem Sounders. NHL will never be a #1 spot with cities that have multiple other sports teams there. You can't use that argument of why Canada should get more teams via relocation.

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10-11-2012, 04:14 PM
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This is excellent news if true! I'm thinking Quebec and Markham? Then relocate a team like Phoenix to Seattle and watch HRR increase exponentially.

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10-11-2012, 04:16 PM
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Although Seattle has the Seahawks, Mariners, University of Washington, and Washington State. Not to mention a possible NBA team. How many markets in the US is the NHL #1 if there are other sports there?
Washinton State? Their campus is 10 miles from the border with Idaho.

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10-11-2012, 04:17 PM
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This is excellent news if true! I'm thinking Quebec and Markham? Then relocate a team like Phoenix to Seattle and watch HRR increase exponentially.
If you really are going to have to move Phoenix which sorry Coyotes fans most of us think needs to happen. It makes sense to relocate them to Seattle. They can make the expansion buy in fees huge then. The pressure for Canadian teams to pony up will be huge. It could scare off a lot of the USA markets that would look into bidding if the tag is a really staggering number.

I would expect Seattle, Omaha, Kansas City, Houston, and Las Vegas to prepare bids if this is done with a bidding format. Maybe Hartford if someone can get an arena lined up there also.

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10-11-2012, 04:19 PM
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If you really are going to have to move Phoenix which sorry Coyotes fans most of us think needs to happen. It makes sense to relocate them to Seattle. They can make the expansion buy in fees huge then. The pressure for Canadian teams to pony up will be huge. It could scare off a lot of the USA markets that would look into bidding if the tag is a really staggering number.

I would expect Seattle, Omaha, Kansas City, Houston, and Las Vegas to prepare bids if this is done with a bidding format. Maybe Hartford if someone can get an arena lined up there also.
Las Vegas and omaha has no arena.

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omaha has no arena.
http://www.centurylinkcenteromaha.com/Default.aspx

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I stand corrected. But it makes zero sense to chose ohama over Seattle.

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WOW, I had no clue Omaha had that arena. Someone call Warren Buffett! Actually he's a smart investor, he would stay away from the NHL like it's the plague.

Seriously though, has anyone ever shown interest from the city?

Also, wasn;t Hartford even in the bidding as late as 2007 for Nashville?


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If it's relocation, fine.

But watering down the product more via expansion is a terrible idea.
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The talent is too diluted already.
We have more than enough talent to have a 32 team league.

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The league can't find a buyer for a pretty good Phoenix playoff team - where are they gonna find not one, but TWO more suckers... er I mean owners... that want to join this club?

So now they'd need to find 3 new owners to join this group whose main source of income is currently locked out. Man, it doesn't get any better than this!
There's been a number of prospective buyers who have been interested in Phoenix. The issue isn't owning an NHL team, it's owning the one located in Phoenix. Allow that team to move anywhere, and someone would snap it up.

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True or not, it's probably a deliberate leak. It'll win brownie points with Canadians. It's a great PR move for the owners.
Makes sense to use it as PR after a lockout. Would anyone really be surprised with all this arena talk in both QC and Markham?

Where does that leave the Coyotes if their problems can't be solved?

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Markham, Seattle, Quebec City, Omaha, Kansas City and Houston would most likely be the preferred destinations for expansion/relocation.

Although I don't think any city has both an arena and an ownership group in place, they all seem to be lacking one or the other.

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I stand corrected. But it makes zero sense to chose ohama over Seattle.
Maybe Omaha and Saskatoon could share a team - each city gets 20.5 home games.

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The Portland/Seattle area deserves a team much more than another one in Toronto...

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...they shouldn't tap in to a saturated market.
It's hardly saturated. It's "under served". Way more money to be made in Southern Ontario.

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WOW, I had no clue Omaha had that arena. Someone call Warren Buffett! Actually he's a smart investor, he would stay away from the NHL like it's the plague.

Seriously though, has anyone ever shown interest from the city?

Also, wasn;t Hartford even in the bidding as late as 2007 for Nashville?
Have always thought Omaha would be a good market, has corporate partners and potential owners. The arena seats around 18,000 more when not in a hockey capacity. They would struggle with free agents, but would own Nebraska being the only pro team in town. Passionate sports fans and the northern plains are very into hockey. I don't think they would fail, but I don't know that they will be realistically looked at by the league either.

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Markham, Seattle, Quebec City, Omaha, Kansas City and Houston would most likely be the preferred destinations for expansion/relocation.

Although I don't think any city has both an arena and an ownership group in place, they all seem to be lacking one or the other.
There is a group interested in a team in Seattle the problem is they can't actually do anything until there is an approve arena plan. I am hoping once King County and Seattle give their approving we'll know who the NHL ownership group is going to be.

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The Portland/Seattle area deserves a team much more than another one in Toronto...
Now if we can get Seattle and Portland both a team we can have the three way cascadia rivalry going in the NHL as well.

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Markham, Seattle, Quebec City, Omaha, Kansas City and Houston would most likely be the preferred destinations for expansion/relocation.

Although I don't think any city has both an arena and an ownership group in place, they all seem to be lacking one or the other.
Houston, Kansas City and Omaha all have state of the art arenas that can host hockey in place. I don't know about ownership and the building in Houston already has the Rockets as a major tenant. Kansas City has been desperate to get a permenant tenant in place. Once again don't know the ownership groups, but the guy that owns the Royals and helped fund the arena is David Glass who is married to a Walton and worth billions. In terms of Omaha, I do think if you could get Buffett interested he is very into doing anything for his home state it would be a huge victory. Omaha is a lot bigger than people think. It could be a very sustainable market and a huge victory for the league.

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There is a group interested in a team in Seattle the problem is they can't actually do anything until there is an approve arena plan. I am hoping once King County and Seattle give their approving we'll know who the NHL ownership group is going to be.
It is the guy that owns the AHL's Chicago Wolves. At least he is one of the rumored guys that is very interested, Don Levin is his name.

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Why not places like Wisconson or North Dakota?
They seem to do well with their college hockey franchises, and would likely embrace an nhl team.

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Coyotes to Quebec city,
Blue Jackets to Hamilton.

Expansion:
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Why not places like Wisconson or North Dakota?
They seem to do well with their college hockey franchises, and would likely embrace an nhl team.
North Dakota has 685,000 people in 70,700 square miles.

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Coyotes to Quebec city,
Blue Jackets to Hamilton.

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Blue Jackets have a lease through 2039.

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It is the guy that owns the AHL's Chicago Wolves. At least he is one of the rumored guys that is very interested, Don Levin is his name.
No i don't think as far as i heard that Levin is involved with any of the group.

Hansen supposedly have someone that will be for hockey but we have no idea who it is yet and its not Levin.

Only reason why balmer, and nordstorms have even been named cause they are part of the initial investor group/sonics 2.0

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Blue Jackets have a lease through 2039.
Yea Columbus just renewed their lease.

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