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10-10-2012, 03:37 PM
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Chicago- New York (Boyle)

I feel that a 1st is what it would take-an overpayment

I also feel like its worth the risk, too, you need to have guys that can win board battles and such-little dudes like Kruger Pirri etc. just will be push overs in many playoff games.

It would be nice to have a strong relative fourth line again. I love how your all experts-

In a perfect world while TT is maturing:

Stalberg - Toews - Kane
Saad - Sharp - Hossa
Shaw - Bolland - Danault
Kruger - Boyle - Bollig

Keith-Seabrook
Leddy-Hammer
Oduya-Monty/Brookbank

I like this roster, obviously the 4th line wingers can change but its solid and deep.

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10-10-2012, 03:53 PM
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It's overpayment, but I just don't think we could do that. Boyle did what he did last season with something like 70+% defensive zone draws (like what Bolland did for you guys). He's our Bolland with more size and less offensive ability and at the moment, we don't have anyone to step in. We just can't do it.

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10-10-2012, 04:03 PM
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Based on your theory, the Blackhawks trade a 1st for a guy who'll be playing 4th line minutes?

Makes sense.

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10-10-2012, 06:22 PM
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Dislike the trade, like the fact that you have Danault in the lineup. He's having a good start to the year.

...Don't like Bollig there, he needs a lot more work.

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10-10-2012, 06:35 PM
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Last TDL Nashville traded a 1st for a fourth line player. The pick ended up being the best player in the draft (Jankowski). Maybe you ought to think long and hard before potentially missing out on the next Jankowski.

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10-10-2012, 07:35 PM
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Last TDL Nashville traded a 1st for a fourth line player. The pick ended up being the best player in the draft (Jankowski). Maybe you ought to think long and hard before potentially missing out on the next Jankowski.
Jankowski the best player in the draft?



And Boyle is not worth a 1st, plus the Rangers couldn't afford to lose Boyle - he's huge for them.

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10-10-2012, 07:37 PM
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Jankowski the best player in the draft?



And Boyle is not worth a 1st, plus the Rangers couldn't afford to lose Boyle - he's huge for them.
The guy you quoted wrote his post with a face quite similar to the one in your avatar, I imagine. Sarcasm, sarcasm.

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10-10-2012, 09:45 PM
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Could the Rangers take this, then sign Jason Arnott and split third line time between him and Halpern? Arnott would be a perfect big body replacement. He's only 38 and would also provide depth scoring and Veteran leadership.

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Last TDL Nashville traded a 1st for a fourth line player. The pick ended up being the best player in the draft (Jankowski). Maybe you ought to think long and hard before potentially missing out on the next Jankowski.
The trade deadline is extremely different from pre-season, the Preds were willing to give up a first rounder for a guy they thought was the missing piece...even if there is a season this year, the hawks have no clue how it will go, what if kane and toews go down (knock on wood) and that becomes a top five pick...now the rangers have it.

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10-10-2012, 11:20 PM
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Could the Rangers take this, then sign Jason Arnott and split third line time between him and Halpern? Arnott would be a perfect big body replacement. He's only 38 and would also provide depth scoring and Veteran leadership.
Arnott is an offensive upgrade, but is slower and worse defensively. Boyle is better on faceoffs as well, especially in the defensive zone.

Rangers are looking in the direction of upgrading overall team speed and skill.

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10-11-2012, 12:03 PM
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Arnott is an offensive upgrade, but is slower and worse defensively. Boyle is better on faceoffs as well, especially in the defensive zone.
Arnott is not an upgrade offensively at even strength, not matter how much people keep saying it.

In the past 5 seasons, there has been one instance of a player starting less than 30% of his shifts in the offensive zone and scoring more ESP than Boyle last season. So underappreciated.

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10-11-2012, 12:58 PM
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The trade deadline is extremely different from pre-season, the Preds were willing to give up a first rounder for a guy they thought was the missing piece...even if there is a season this year, the hawks have no clue how it will go, what if kane and toews go down (knock on wood) and that becomes a top five pick...now the rangers have it.
No they wouldn't be a top 5 pick.

Hossa/Sharp/Bolland/Keith/Seabrook is still a decent core of guys

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10-11-2012, 06:34 PM
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I like the offer, but I can't do it. Boyle is too important to the current lineup and the Rangers are obviously in win now mode following a trip to the final four and the subsequent addition of Rick Nash.

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10-11-2012, 07:29 PM
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Boyle++ for Bolland.

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what's wrong with Bickell?

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Boyle++ for Bolland.
Why even bother proposing this?

I doubt Chicago will try and strengthen their center position by trading a 2/3 center for a fourth line C.

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10-11-2012, 09:15 PM
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Why even bother proposing this?

I doubt Chicago will try and strengthen their center position by trading a 2/3 center for a fourth line C.
Why even bother proposing for Boyle?

Rangers have no need to move their shutdown center unless it's for an upgrade.

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10-12-2012, 06:11 AM
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I would take a 1st for Boyle in a heart beat.

BB is overrated.

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Boyle++ for Bolland.
Boyle and Kreider? Sure. That's what it would take.

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I would take a 1st for Boyle in a heart beat.

BB is overrated.
What about a 2nd and 3rd?

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10-12-2012, 02:23 PM
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Boyle and Kreider? Sure. That's what it would take.
Wouldn't trade Kreider for Bolland straight across, let alone add Boyle. Understandable from Chicago's perspective since their center depth would be atrocious without Bolland.

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What does it take for Buffalo to get Boyle?

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Wouldn't trade Kreider for Bolland straight across, let alone add Boyle. Understandable from Chicago's perspective since their center depth would be atrocious without Bolland.
As long as Q insists on playing Marcus Kruger as our 2nd line center, Chicago's center depth is atrocious even with Bolland.

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What does it take for Buffalo to get Boyle?
Foligno or McNabb

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I would take a 1st for Boyle in a heart beat.

BB is overrated.
Completely agree. This is overpayment for Boyle, I take a 1st and run if I'm the Rangers.

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