HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Notices

Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

Joel Armia - Ässät, SM-liiga

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-04-2012, 08:14 PM
  #901
Eidyia
Registered User
 
Eidyia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Oulu
Country: Finland
Posts: 541
vCash: 500
Ok, he sucks.

Eidyia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-04-2012, 10:28 PM
  #902
ZZamboni
Puttin' on the Foil
 
ZZamboni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Buffalo, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 10,193
vCash: 500
Armia could develop into a Semin type or maybe a Satan type. Inconsistent but talented and deadly at times. It would be a shame if he topped out as a decent 3rd liner.

ZZamboni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-04-2012, 10:37 PM
  #903
1972
Registered User
 
1972's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,013
vCash: 500
oh he could be the next Kotalik or Novotny

1972 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-05-2012, 01:23 AM
  #904
Reikai
Neutral fan
 
Reikai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 2,610
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eidyia View Post
Joel Armia downside -> Niklas Hagman

Joel Armia topside -> Ilja Kovalchuck or better

Damn this kid has been good. The media here would be raving about him if it weren't for Barkov and the lockoutees.
First of all, how the hell is Armia's downside Hagman when he clearly has much better tools and doesnt even play the same style? Secondly stop overhyping our prospects. Armia is currently my favorite finnish prospect but there's just no way he can become as an explosive skater as Kovy and its pretty much a safe bet that he wont score 50 goals.

The Semin comparison is pretty good. Armia doesnt have quite the shot arsenal Semin has but he has the size advantage.

Reikai is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
10-05-2012, 02:32 AM
  #905
Ihmeilja
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Country: Finland
Posts: 99
vCash: 500
When think of big goalscorers who are not exactly powerforward, I think of Dany Heatley. Although Armia is more skilltype player, than Heatley.

Semin comparision is good, but Armia is bigger and Semin is even more about skill and skating. Armia is somewhere between Heatley and Semin.

Ihmeilja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-05-2012, 06:07 AM
  #906
InjuredChoker
Registered User
 
InjuredChoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: LTIR or golf course
Posts: 17,809
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ihmeilja View Post
When think of big goalscorers who are not exactly powerforward, I think of Dany Heatley. Although Armia is more skilltype player, than Heatley.

Semin comparision is good, but Armia is bigger and Semin is even more about skill and skating. Armia is somewhere between Heatley and Semin.
Yeah, agreed. Armia is more like Heatley, es. what Heatley was some years ago. Nowhere to be seen but then suddenly puck is in the net and Heatley was the man to do it.

InjuredChoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-09-2012, 09:26 PM
  #907
jfb392
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,111
vCash: 500
Did a shift by shift video of his last game (10/6 vs. TPS):


Sorry if it's a little pixelated, I would have down a two pass render but it would have taken five hours instead of two and a half.

jfb392 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-09-2012, 10:57 PM
  #908
Dropkick Murphy
Registered User
 
Dropkick Murphy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In the bubble
Country: Finland
Posts: 89
vCash: 500
I would say that inconsistency is the main issue with his play. Otherwise, he has all the tools of becoming NHL superstar. If that issue gets fixed, the hockey world will be amazed.

I also loved the report from HF about Armias strengths: big power forward with some scoring ability, future grinder. I mean for real, if Armia has little goal scoring ability, I would like to see those prospects with a lot of goal scoring abilities. As Armia scored as 17-year old with pace of 0,33 GPG at FEL, these guys should bomb like 40-45 goals seasons in FEL/SEL and over 80 in OHL.

Dropkick Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-09-2012, 11:04 PM
  #909
canucksPK
Registered User
 
canucksPK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Okanagan BC
Posts: 832
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropkick Murphy View Post
I would say that inconsistency is the main issue with his play. Otherwise, he has all the tools of becoming NHL superstar. If that issue gets fixed, the hockey world will be amazed.

I also loved the report from HF about Armias strengths: big power forward with some scoring ability, future grinder. I mean for real, if Armia has little goal scoring ability, I would like to see those prospects with a lot of goal scoring abilities. As Armia scored as 17-year old with pace of 0,33 GPG at FEL, these guys should bomb like 40-45 goals seasons in FEL/SEL and over 80 in OHL.
Haha that is a terrible scouting report by hf. Armia is a total skill player with a terrific shot and enviable explosiveness. My biggest problem with Armia is that at 6'3 he plays quite undersized and loses quite a few puck battles. He is definitely a dangler.

canucksPK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-10-2012, 04:41 AM
  #910
Juzmo
rip
 
Juzmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Country: Finland
Posts: 37,171
vCash: 6969
Quote:
Originally Posted by canucksPK View Post
My biggest problem with Armia is that at 6'3 he plays quite undersized and loses quite a few puck battles.
I mean he isn't the most physical guy out there hitting all the time, but he actually has done well in puck battles so far this season from what I've seen.

Juzmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-12-2012, 10:31 AM
  #911
ElHefe
Registered User
 
ElHefe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Capital Area
Country: Finland
Posts: 586
vCash: 500
I post this here too. If you want to follow Armia's and Ässät's game tonight (or today in NA) it is possible:

http://www.justin.tv/tapparasaravo#/w/3968078848
http://www.justin.tv/tapparasaravo#/w/3968078848
http://www.justin.tv/tapparasaravo#/w/3968078848

Ässät vs. Tappara so Aleksander Barkov is also playing.

ElHefe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-12-2012, 10:59 AM
  #912
canovin
Klefbom's charm
 
canovin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: 780
Posts: 970
vCash: 500
What's Armia #?

canovin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-12-2012, 11:01 AM
  #913
MaNNe
Registered User
 
MaNNe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 467
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by canovin View Post
What's Armia #?
He is #10






/10chars.

MaNNe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-12-2012, 11:39 AM
  #914
tsujimoto74
Registered User
 
tsujimoto74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia
Country: United States
Posts: 8,814
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by canucksPK View Post
Haha that is a terrible scouting report by hf. Armia is a total skill player with a terrific shot and enviable explosiveness. My biggest problem with Armia is that at 6'3 he plays quite undersized and loses quite a few puck battles. He is definitely a dangler.
I agree with terrible scouting report. Absolutely a skill forward, not a grit guy by any stretch of the imagination. The only way in which he resembles a powerforward at all is when he's decided he really, really wants a goal and just fights his way to the front of the net to get it. But it looks like this year he's done much better winning puck battles, and he does use his size pretty darn well when it comes to protecting the puck.

tsujimoto74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 03:58 AM
  #915
Juzmo
rip
 
Juzmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Country: Finland
Posts: 37,171
vCash: 6969
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 View Post
I agree with terrible scouting report. Absolutely a skill forward, not a grit guy by any stretch of the imagination. The only way in which he resembles a powerforward at all is when he's decided he really, really wants a goal and just fights his way to the front of the net to get it. But it looks like this year he's done much better winning puck battles, and he does use his size pretty darn well when it comes to protecting the puck.
Puck battles have been a bit of a problem. What I mean is that instead of passing the puck from the corner when he has had the chance, Armia has more often than not just tried to battle there with a couple of guys and not being that successful. A bigger problem for Armia right now is his line's center Mika Niemi, who has literally slowed down after the great start and right now Joel isn't really getting into those 1on1-situation where he really shines.

Got a great pass from other linemate Michael Ryan yesterday and scored a goal with a nice little tap in near the goal. Only played a bit under 11 because of all the penalty killing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thomast View Post
Armia got outplayed badly by 2 years younger Barkov. Wasn't impressed on Armia. Loved Joensuu, he's beast.
Edit. Barkov outplaying most forwards in SM-liiga at the moment.


Last edited by Juzmo: 10-13-2012 at 05:09 AM.
Juzmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 04:13 AM
  #916
thomast
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,581
vCash: 500
Armia got outplayed badly by 2 years younger Barkov. Wasn't impressed on Armia. Loved Joensuu, he's beast.

thomast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 05:59 AM
  #917
Hagged
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Country:
Posts: 1,544
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thomast View Post
Armia got outplayed badly by 2 years younger Barkov.
This, getting outplayed by some soft kid who just turned 17 few weeks ago. Embarrassing. He should just quit hockey and do something else.

Hagged is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 06:27 AM
  #918
SuperNintendoChalmrs
Registered User
 
SuperNintendoChalmrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 3,486
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkine View Post
This, getting outplayed by some soft kid who just turned 17 few weeks ago. Embarrassing. He should just quit hockey and do something else.
Yeah, I don't think the Sabres will ever bring over Joel Armia at his point. Maybe he can acquire a vocation, carpentry perhaps. Maybe a bus painter, something like that.

SuperNintendoChalmrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 08:12 AM
  #919
1972
Registered User
 
1972's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,013
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkine View Post
This, getting outplayed by some soft kid who just turned 17 few weeks ago. Embarrassing. He should just quit hockey and do something else.
he has out played basically the entire league

1972 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 08:51 AM
  #920
f1nn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Espoo, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 2,782
vCash: 1312
Send a message via AIM to f1nn
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1972 View Post
he has out played basically the entire league
Sarcasm detector down?

f1nn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-13-2012, 01:23 PM
  #921
jaeger
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 270
vCash: 500
He means Barkov. And it's pretty much true.

jaeger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-16-2012, 12:12 PM
  #922
Juzmo
rip
 
Juzmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Country: Finland
Posts: 37,171
vCash: 6969
Got some small hit to his head in the first period and just to be safe won't play for the rest of the game today.

Juzmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-17-2012, 01:42 AM
  #923
f1nn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Espoo, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 2,782
vCash: 1312
Send a message via AIM to f1nn
According to this Armia got a concussion from the hit in last nights game

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko...a-aivotarahdys

f1nn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-17-2012, 08:35 AM
  #924
bareza
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 62
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by f1nn View Post
According to this Armia got a concussion from the hit in last nights game

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko...a-aivotarahdys

update they think he docent have a concussion

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko...saikahdyksella

bareza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-18-2012, 10:03 AM
  #925
f1nn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Espoo, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 2,782
vCash: 1312
Send a message via AIM to f1nn
Quote:
Originally Posted by bareza View Post
update they think he docent have a concussion

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko...saikahdyksella
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko...so-kokoonpanot

Tiistain SM-liigakierroksella aivotärähdyksen saanut Joel Armia on poissa Ässien kokoonpanosta torstain kotiottelussa Kärppiä vastaan.

hmm so is it or is it not? maybe just a precaution?

f1nn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.