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Mikhail grigorenko vs Teuvo Teräväinen

View Poll Results: Grigorenko vs Teräväinen
Grigorenko 111 89.52%
Teräväinen 13 10.48%
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10-13-2012, 03:54 PM
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Mikhail grigorenko vs Teuvo Teräväinen

Both guys have a tremendous skill set. Who will be the better player in a couple years?

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10-13-2012, 04:00 PM
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Grigorenko easily for me.

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10-13-2012, 05:00 PM
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Grigorenko.

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10-13-2012, 05:26 PM
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Grigorenko. I think the poll would be closer though is Teravainen was playing in North America.

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10-13-2012, 05:27 PM
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10-13-2012, 08:21 PM
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Grigs. Teravainen is overrated imo.

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10-13-2012, 09:09 PM
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Grigs. Teravainen is overrated imo.
I'm happy that the Hawks got him. I think he'll be a great addition. He was a steal. But yes, just like Armia. He is overrated. Grigorenko on the other hand has slowly been proving several teams wrong.

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10-13-2012, 09:10 PM
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TT will be the best player to come out of the 2012 draft

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10-13-2012, 09:17 PM
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TT will be the best player to come out of the 2012 draft
Lol. Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Rielly, Dumba, Vasilevski all have strong cases to make already. Saying something like that is hoping that somehow TT ends up being a Claude Giroux of the 2012 draft and you can refer to this post if you're right, let people forget if you're wrong.

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10-13-2012, 09:18 PM
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Love both. I think they will be two of the best players to come out of 2012 draft.

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10-13-2012, 11:37 PM
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Lol. Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Rielly, Dumba, Vasilevski all have strong cases to make already. Saying something like that is hoping that somehow TT ends up being a Claude Giroux of the 2012 draft and you can refer to this post if you're right, let people forget if you're wrong.
Lol...that's heady praise for 7 players who have never played in the NHL - 6 of whom who have no chance of playing this year...and at least 4 of whom won't be playing next year either

I went with Grig...but i think it's very close. Teuvo is small - and still playing in Finland - he's farther away from the NHL than Grig. His skill is very obvious though...and I predict very good things for him.

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10-14-2012, 12:22 AM
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I strongly prefer Grigorenko. Teravainen is skilled, but also undersized, he hasn't blown me away when I've seen him. Seems like a perimeter player to me, but not skilled enough to be a Phil Kessel type, I get more of a Filatov vibe from him. I also don't think he'll stick at centre, he seems more suited to the wing. I don't like the way Grigorenko has somewhat disappeared in big games (in the playoffs vs. Halifax, or in the Canada-Russia Challenge), and the way he sometimes looks a bit casual on the ice, but there's no doubting his talent (which is top notch), and he has great size too.

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10-14-2012, 12:34 AM
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I strongly prefer Grigorenko. Teravainen is skilled, but also undersized, he hasn't blown me away when I've seen him. Seems like a perimeter player to me, but not skilled enough to be a Phil Kessel type, I get more of a Filatov vibe from him. I also don't think he'll stick at centre, he seems more suited to the wing. I don't like the way Grigorenko has somewhat disappeared in big games (in the playoffs vs. Halifax, or in the Canada-Russia Challenge), and the way he sometimes looks a bit casual on the ice, but there's no doubting his talent (which is top notch), and he has great size too.
I agree w/ you re Teuvo's size - although it seems his physical upside is bigger than P. Kane - maybe a shorter RNH (although maybe someone from Finland can provide insight?) - I agree w/ you that he seems to be a perimeter player - I totally disagree that he's not skilled enough to be a Kessel type - but something to keep in mind is he's playing in Europe (and has decided to prefer a Euro-men's league over a N. Am jr league).

I know there are ppl who love the idea of players playing in "men's leagues" in their respective Euro countries - but given Teuvo's age (he was one of the youngest players in draft) and his size - I wouldn't have minded him playing in the CHL where the competition was younger/smaller/easier - but he was getting entry into N.Am/NHL style play in an easier fashion than what he will be confronted w/ in the NHL.

ETA - as noted above, even though Teuvo is the prospect for my team - i voted Grig in this poll.

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10-14-2012, 12:56 AM
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I'm happy that the Hawks got him. I think he'll be a great addition. He was a steal. But yes, just like Armia. He is overrated. Grigorenko on the other hand has slowly been proving several teams wrong.
I guess the definition of overrated is subjective but I'd like to hear about why you think Armia is overrated.

This is a tough one, I wanna say Grigorenko because I'm biased, but Tervainen's hands are incredible, only time will tell how he turns out, I'd like to see him produce bigger numbers before I pick him over Grigorenko though.

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Grigs. Teravainen is overrated imo.
Exactly what I was going to post...

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Gotta go with Grigo, he has the size and skill along with the build.

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TT is one of my favorite prospects but i gotta go with Grigo here.

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10-14-2012, 12:14 PM
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Lol. Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Grigorenko, Rielly, Dumba, Vasilevski all have strong cases to make already. Saying something like that is hoping that somehow TT ends up being a Claude Giroux of the 2012 draft and you can refer to this post if you're right, let people forget if you're wrong.
Strong cases are made in the NHL. Nothing else really matters.

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Like TT but this one is Grigorenko. TT is better skater and maybe little better hands but that's pretty much it.

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10-14-2012, 12:54 PM
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Grigorenko is pretty much better than Teravainen in every aspect of the game, and is alot bigger. Teravainen is a really nice prospect and was who I wanted at the draft because I thought Grigorenko wouldnt be available.

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07-25-2013, 10:55 AM
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I have both guys on my Keeper League

What do you guys think they will "peak" at? Or is Tuevo worth keeping

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I have both guys on my Keeper League

What do you guys think they will "peak" at? Or is Tuevo worth keeping
Tuevo won't be in the NHL this season and probably not next season either. Isn't Pirri still ahead of him in terms of center depth/development for the Hawks? He will be a good player one day most likely if he can get past the physicality part of the league.

Grigs is a pretty high-end prospect and is much, much better suited to NA game than TT.

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Grigorenko. I'm afraid TT has awful lot of work to do to become an NHL regular. He has the skills, easily, but I'm concerned about him being small. His first NHL years are gonna be similar to what Granlund is going through.

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No idea, but I would say Grigorenko if someone held a gun to my head. But I also think Grigs is more likely to bust than TT is.

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