This thread is for general discussion about the 2013 NFL Draft, ranging from early top 10 rankings of players, to observations of players during college games, or likely needs of NFL teams. Pretty much, the stuff that doesn't quite fit in the NCAA or NFL GDTs but is perfect draft discussion fodder.
Not happening. He just signed that 7 year $62M with $24M guaranteed contract not even a year ago, late last October... not to mention it had a $10M signing bonus.
This is ridiculously deep DT and DE class. Pretty strong CB class too. The OT's are hit and miss, and I think it lacks a stud LT a la Kalil. Interior line class is strong though.
It's a good draft, and a team like the Rams could really bolster their squad if they pick well.
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This draft is one of the better defensive drafts in a long time. Jones, Mingo, Lotulelei, Montgomery, Hankins, Werner, Banks, and Te'o all have star potential
I'm not a huge Mingo fan. I'm surprised you didn't list Damontre Moore from Texas A&M. I think he has the potential to be the best pass rusher in this class. Lining up as a 4-3 DE this year and having success.
1. Barkevious Mingo**
2. Jarvis Jones**
3. Jonathan Hankins**
4. Matt Barkley
5. Star Lotulelei
6. Luke Joeckel**
7. Sam Montgomery**
8. Manti Te'o
9. Tyler Wilson
10. Keenan Allen**
**denotes a junior
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This is ridiculously deep DT and DE class. Pretty strong CB class too. The OT's are hit and miss, and I think it lacks a stud LT a la Kalil. Interior line class is strong though.
It's a good draft, and a team like the Rams could really bolster their squad if they pick well.
Geno Smith I think proved this weekend that he isn't the best QB coming out....I don't think its a paticularily strong QB class.
Geno Smith I think proved this weekend that he isn't the best QB coming out....I don't think its a paticularily strong QB class.
It's not. Tyler Wilson out of Arkansas could actually be the best QB in this class.
The thing with Geno Smith is that I don't really trust Air Raid system QB's. He got exposed big time against a team with a good D. In the NFL I can't see him being that guy.
It's not. Tyler Wilson out of Arkansas could actually be the best QB in this class.
The thing with Geno Smith is that I don't really trust Air Raid system QB's. He got exposed big time against a team with a good D. In the NFL I can't see him being that guy.
If Bray comes out, he's the best NFL prospect at QB.
Agreed. Just saying he'd be the best in a bad class. If he stays another year and gets things together, he could be the top pick next year in a top heavy QB class with Bridgewater and himself.
Te'o is the best, far and away. Ogletree will stay, but if he doesn't he'd slide in around where the Bears would pick.
Assuming the Bears pick in the bottom of the draft, I could see Tyler Eifert, Jake Matthews, Barrett Jones, and Taylor Lewan being options right now. Te'o will probably be top 15, but I want him so bad.
Here is my top 5 players for every position for this draft:
Center:
1. Khaled Holmes (USC, SR)
2. Mario Benavides (Louisville, SR)
3. Braxston Cave (Notre Dame, SR)
4. Dalton Freeman (Clemson, SR)
5. T.J. Johnson (South Carolina, SR)
Cornerback:
1. Dee Milliner (Alabama, Jr.)
2. Jonathan Banks (Miss St, Sr.)
3. Xavier Rhodes (Florida St, Jr.)
4. David Amerson (NC State, Jr.)
5. Jordan Poyer (Oregon St, Sr.)
Defensive End:
1. Sam Montgomery (LSU, Jr)
2. Bjoern Werner (Florida St, rJr)
3. Jackson Jeffcoat (Texas, Jr)
4. Corey Lemonier (Auburn, Jr)
5. Dion Jordan (Oregon, rSr)
Defensive Tackle:
1. Jonathan Hankins (Ohio State, Jr)
2. Star Lotulelei (Utah, Sr)
3. John Jenkins (Georgia, Sr)
4. Sylvester Williams (UNC, Sr)
5. Kawann Short (Purdue, rSr)
Free Safety:
1. Eric Reid (LSU, Jr)
2. T.J. McDonald (USC, Sr)
3. Tony Jefferson (Oklahoma, Jr)
4. Bacarri Rambo (Georgia, rSr)
5. D.J. Swearinger (South Carolina, Sr)
ILB/MLB:
1. Manti Te'o (Notre Dame, Sr)
2. Shayne Skov (Stanford, Sr)
3. Nico Johnson (Alabama, Sr)
4. Michael Mauti (Penn St, rSr)
5. Kevin Minter (LSU, Jr)
Guard:
1. Chance Warmack (Alabama, Sr)
2. Barrett Jones (Alabama, Sr)
3. Jonathan Cooper (UNC, rSr)
4. Gabe Jackson (Miss St, rJr)
5. Larry Warford (Kentucky, Sr)
OLB:
1. Barkevious Mingo (LSU, Jr)
2. Jarvis Jones (Georgia, rJr)
3. Chase Thomas (Stanford, rSr)
4. C.J. Mosley (Alabama, Jr)
5. Arthur Brown (Kansas St, rSr)
Tackle:
1. Luke Joeckel (Texas A&M, Jr)
2. Jake Matthews (Texas A&M, Jr)
3. Taylor Lewan (Michigan, rJr)
4. D.J. Fluker (Alabama, rJr)
5. Eric Fisher (Central Michigan, Sr)
QB:
1. Matt Barkley (USC, Sr)
2. Tyler Wilson (Arkansas, rSr)
3. Geno Smith (WVU, Sr)
4. EJ Manuel (Florida St, rSr)
5. Landry Jones (Oklahoma, rSr)
Runningback:
1. Marcus Lattimore (South Carolina, Jr)
2. Eddie Lacy (Alabama, rJr)
3. Le'Veon Bell (Michigan St, Jr)
4. Stepfan Taylor (Stanford, Sr)
5. Joseph Randle (OK State, Jr)
Strong Safety:
1. Kenny Vaccaro (Texas, Sr)
2. Robert Lester (Alabama, Sr)
3. Matt Elam (Florida, Jr)
4. Zeke Motta (Notre Dame, Sr)
5. Shawn Williams (Georgia, Sr)
Tight End:
1. Tyler Eifert (Notre Dame, rJr)
2. Jordan Reed (Florida, rJr)
3. Dion Sims (Michigan St, rJr)
4. C.J. Fiedorowicz (Iowa, Jr)
5. Chris Gragg (Arkansas, Sr)
Wide Receiver:
1. Keenan Allen (Cal, Jr)
2. Justin Hunter (Tenn, Jr)
3. Robert Woods (USC, Jr)
4. Terrance Williams (Baylor, rSr)
5. Tavon Austin (WVU, Sr)
So which QB are the Eagles going to take to compete with Foles for the starting job next year? There's really no QBs that I see with star potential in this draft, since I'm not as high on Smith as most.
Not happening. He just signed that 7 year $62M with $24M guaranteed contract not even a year ago, late last October... not to mention it had a $10M signing bonus.
$10M is nothing in the NFL. I'm under the impression that his contract is rather easy to get out of.
He's more of a mix between Palmer and Sanchez to me...Leinart had probably one of the weakest arms i've ever seen in person. Barkley has all the tools (Palmer) but his decision making and poise are iffy (Sanchez).