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10-16-2012, 11:29 AM
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Done forever because Frank Lutz put you ever the edge???
I'm on the verge, and yes, he did. This guy is one despicable human being. He devises ways to get people to vote AGAINST their interests.

It's an injection of evil that's enough to turn me away for good. I'm very politically aware, and I watch the Rangers as an escape.

If the two worlds become linked...I think I may become too jaded to give a **** anymore.

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10-16-2012, 11:33 AM
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I think the sharing of rooms thing is a bit overblown...

They also have curfews and bed checks... again this isn't real world stuff. They get paid MILLIONS TO PLAY A GAME... it's not the same as someone who travels for work.

If you need convincing look no further than Crosby staying at Lemieux's house for his first two (I think it was two) years in the league. These guys are always learning from veterans... rooming together is part of that, part of team building and tradition.

That being said I obviously wouldn't let it stand in the way of a new CBA. If that got a deal done, then fine.

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10-16-2012, 11:35 AM
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10-16-2012, 11:36 AM
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I dont get this at all... you think its unreasonable to want their own room?

When I travel for work, if I had to share a room with one of my coworkers I would NOT be going on the trip. No chance. Hell,. I wont even make a trip if they book me on a middle seat on a flight.

These guys travel for long periods of time... how can you blame them for wanting their own space? They aren't buddies going on vacation and looking to save a few bucks on hotel rooms... this is their job. It takes them away from their home and their families for extended periods of time. I think the least they could expect is their own room so they can have a little privacy.

IDK what you do for a living, but would you want to share a hotel room with your coworkers?
You aren't thinking clearly. You aren't traveling with a TEAM, nor are you playing a SPORT. You probably sell printers. No bonding needed.

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10-16-2012, 11:36 AM
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Bettman and Daly presenting SOMETHING is hopefully a good sign. They must be feeling heat. Especially after yesterdays focus group debacle...

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“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Meeting over. Bettman says NHL made new offer to NHLPA.”

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10-16-2012, 11:39 AM
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WOW!

“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Bettman says offer contingent on having 82-game season which would begin Nov 2. Says league offered 50/50 share of HRR”

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“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Meeting over. Bettman says NHL made new offer to NHLPA.”
The first shot has been fired!

That was fast.

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10-16-2012, 11:40 AM
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WOW!

“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Bettman says offer contingent on having 82-game season which would begin Nov 2. Says league offered 50/50 share of HRR”
DO IT! NOW!

Reclaim the season!!!

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DO IT! NOW!

Reclaim the season!!!
If the NHLPA rejects this, I will never even look at the NHL again...GET IT DONE!!!

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10-16-2012, 11:42 AM
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If the NHLPA rejects this, I will never even look at the NHL again...GET IT DONE!!!
This blew my mind.

I never would have thought...

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10-16-2012, 11:42 AM
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Pending on what the NHLPA comes out and says, the NHL just took back the PR battle in my head. 50/50 is EXACTLY where they should be, and let's just see how greedy Fehr and the players want to be.

Of course, I'm sure there's much more involved in the NHL's offer that the PA won't agree to. They would be smart to pocket the 50/50 from the NHL though and throw that in their next proposal.

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“@DarrenDreger: NHL makes much needed proposal. 50-50 split in rev. More details will surface. Await NHLPA response.”

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“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: League offer of 50/50 split would begin in Year 1. No phasing in”

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Is year 1 this year or next year?

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inb4 Walsh goes on Twitter and says that the NHL's 50/50 offer is secretly a 20/80 split in the NHL's favor.

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Is year 1 this year or next year?
“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: League offer of 50/50 split would begin in Year 1. No phasing in”

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10-16-2012, 11:49 AM
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inb4 Walsh goes on Twitter and says that the NHL's 50/50 offer is secretly a 20/80 split in the NHL's favor.
LOL was just thinking "How will Walsh spin this?"

That sounds like an amazing deal so far!

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10-16-2012, 11:49 AM
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i need some ****ing hockey now!!! Get it done!!!

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10-16-2012, 11:50 AM
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“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: League offer of 50/50 split would begin in Year 1. No phasing in”
What I'd like to know is are they asking players to increase escrow, take a roll-back, did they re-define HRR in their proposal? Optimistic, but guarded until I hear the details.

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10-16-2012, 11:51 AM
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It's a 25 year CBA.

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If the PA rejects this, I will slaughter someone

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What I'd like to know is are they asking players to increase escrow, take a roll-back, did they re-define HRR in their proposal? Optimistic, but guarded until I hear the details.
Bettman said no rollbacks but there never was in the last proposal either. It was the escrow that was high IIRC.

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“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Donald Fehr going to address media in the next 15 min”

Let's hope they get it done asap.

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If the PA rejects this, I will slaughter someone
They're going to reject it, without a doubt. The true beast will be revealed as to how the PA reacts to the 50/50 split. If the PA counters with their next proposal and asks for more than 50% THEN I'll slaughter anyone with you.

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