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10-17-2012, 01:14 PM
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You can tell where Radulov's heart is, he celebrated a goal this year with more enthusiasm than he did for Nashville the entire playoffs last year.
Seriously? We're down to gauging how much enthusiasm a player celebrates a goal with? Seriously?

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10-17-2012, 01:22 PM
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What do you want to talk about? What Bettman and Fehr wore today?

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10-17-2012, 01:28 PM
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Which KHL team do you play on NHL 13?

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10-17-2012, 01:30 PM
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What do you want to talk about? What Bettman and Fehr wore today?
How about the benefit of players playing overseas to keep in game shape and keep their timing have a huge advantage over players sitting around and simply scrimmaging while the lockout exists.

Players like Grabs and Kulemin playing in the KHL should benefit the Leafs upon their return to help carry the team early on over players sitting idle and needing adjustment time. Considering there will only be a shortened 1 week training camp and a few exhibition games to get players geared up and ready to go on the regular season.

The more players a team has playing now the better they have of getting earlier quick returns when the lockout ends and hockey resumes. Since KHL stats are not transferable to the NHL this season, its really not important how they do statistically, but the true benefit comes from them playing, staying sharp and in game condition.

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10-17-2012, 01:36 PM
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It's nice when they put up points, but I could not care less how they perform overall. All I'm doing is praying that they come back in one piece without any injures.

FYI in Grabo's first 4 games he averaged roughly 15:40 of icetime. In his last 3, he's up to 20+. Clearly there's an adjustment period.


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10-17-2012, 01:37 PM
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Yeah who cares as long as they are staying in shape I could care less.

I wonder what a condensed 82 game season will spell for the poorly conditioned Maple Leafs?

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10-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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Who cares, as long as they put up points in the NHL. I'm not worried about Grabo at all. I remember the year he scored 29 goals, he didn't score 1 until his like 16th game.
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Did you just seriously compare Grabovksi and Kulemin to Datsyuk and Malkin??
agreed.

nice to know how they're doing stats-wise for sure, but in comparison to actually watching the games, it doesn't say much for their play. i'd like to stream a few games (if anyone knows of any) and judge their play that way. plus. i hope they aren't going too hard over there anyways. save it for your real team fellas.

i'll take a look for streams later if no one has any. i know they're out there, or at least used to be out there. i used to watch Kulemin all the time on mute before he came over to NA.

hope to see these guys in blue and white in 2-3 weeks.

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10-17-2012, 01:39 PM
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Yeah who cares as long as they are staying in shape I could care less.

I wonder what a condensed 82 game season will spell for the poorly conditioned Maple Leafs?
Season wouldn't be condensed, it would be prolonged with the regular season ending late April instead of early April.

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10-17-2012, 01:54 PM
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Season wouldn't be condensed, it would be prolonged with the regular season ending late April instead of early April.
That is only true if a deal can be reached in the next 7-10 days and a season begin Nov 2nd, otherwise the season will be shortened thereafter.

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Is this the same team Suter dumped as soon as he could? The team Weber signed a contract with the Flyers to get away from?

Geez, what's going on in Nashville?
Coyote Ugly, football, crime and country music. That is all.

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That is only true if a deal can be reached in the next 7-10 days and a season begin Nov 2nd, otherwise the season will be shortened thereafter.
And judging by Fehr's reaction to the latest proposal, this is probably becoming more likely.

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10-17-2012, 05:08 PM
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Has Malkin lost his scoring touch? What's going on? He scored at a better pace last year in the NHL, he should have more points.
Relax here. Malkin is way too good to have just randomly "lost his touch".
He will come to the Pens in the NHL and compete with Crosby for best overall player in the league and he will compete with

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Relax here. Malkin is way too good to have just randomly "lost his touch".
He will come to the Pens in the NHL and compete with Crosby for best overall player in the league and he will compete with
Damn it, my computer froze and won't let me edit my post...
Anways, Malkin will compete with Stamkos for most goals in the next NHL season

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Time for a KHL Leafs perspective update.

Grabo not doing so well:

7GP 2G 1A 3Pts despite being on the strong CSKA team

Looks like he can't score consistently in the KHL either.

In comparison Datsyuk, 8GP 10 Pts.

Nik Kulemin, a little better but modest stats for Metallurg .

10GP 3G 2A 5Pts

In comparison Malkin 11GP 11 Pts.
Well your first problem is your comparing Grabo's stats to Datsyuk and secondly your comparing Kulemin to Malkin....

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How about the benefit of players playing overseas to keep in game shape and keep their timing have a huge advantage over players sitting around and simply scrimmaging while the lockout exists.

Players like Grabs and Kulemin playing in the KHL should benefit the Leafs upon their return to help carry the team early on over players sitting idle and needing adjustment time. Considering there will only be a shortened 1 week training camp and a few exhibition games to get players geared up and ready to go on the regular season.

The more players a team has playing now the better they have of getting earlier quick returns when the lockout ends and hockey resumes. Since KHL stats are not transferable to the NHL this season, its really not important how they do statistically, but the true benefit comes from them playing, staying sharp and in game condition.
The bigger ice in the Europe leagues can also do as much damage to their games as it does good. Playing on bigger ice you have more time to do stuff and the game is more loose compared to the North American tighter checking more physical style game.

I just hate the fact that people think these guys went over there to keep in game shape, they went for a paycheque and some of them will be getting top dollar.

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The bigger ice in the Europe leagues can also do as much damage to their games as it does good. Playing on bigger ice you have more time to do stuff and the game is more loose compared to the North American tighter checking more physical style game.

I just hate the fact that people think these guys went over there to keep in game shape, they went for a paycheque and some of them will be getting top dollar.
For some of them they just went home during the owner imposed lock-out.

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Kulemin with no points, but +2 on the night. Team won 3-1.

Looks like the line was Malkin, Lisin, Kulemin.

http://text.khl.ru/en/34512.html

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10-18-2012, 10:27 AM
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Well your first problem is your comparing Grabo's stats to Datsyuk and secondly your comparing Kulemin to Malkin....
2G in 7GP is still worth 23G over an 82 game schedule, I don't see how Grabovski is underperforming. Kulemin's stat-line is fine as well.

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10-18-2012, 01:20 PM
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Is this the same team Suter dumped as soon as he could? The team Weber signed a contract with the Flyers to get away from?

Geez, what's going on in Nashville?
Nothing that hasn't gone on in any other hockey city. Money talks. Suter never seemed to be emotionally attached to the idea of playing in Nashville long term. He tip-toed around around the issue of re-signing until it was too late to get anything for him.

As for Weber, when somebody shoves that much money in your face, you listen. Hardly surprising.

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10-18-2012, 07:06 PM
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Really sweet goal by Grabo in the loss, deadly corner snipe coming out from behind the net. Looks like Bryzgalov sucks on any continent

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FWIW: NHL scouts consider Kuznetsov the #1 ranked prospect outside the NHL in their latest Hockey News top 50 prospects ranking.

Washington stole him #26th overall in 2010 as teams that are unafraid to draft Russians pass on talent in the entry draft. Similarly how Leafs got Kulemin in the 2nd due to his birth certificate, and falling out of the 1st round on his talent.

He potentially could be far better in the NHL than Grabs or Kulemin and might even become an elite NHLer statistically like Datsyuk or Malkin..

An OV -- Backstrom -- Kuznetsov top line might soon become the NHL's most dangerous trio in time.
Unfair.

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An OV -- Backstrom -- Kuznetsov top line might soon become the NHL's most dangerous trio in time.
Wonder if any additional scouting is going on over there?

Maybe Burke can find the Leafs their #1 center?

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Well your first problem is your comparing Grabo's stats to Datsyuk and secondly your comparing Kulemin to Malkin....
haha seriously...just why

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Update after Thurs:

Grabo 20.28mins ice time, 1g 0a.
8GP 3G 1A 4Pts. Starting to look like the Cy Young of Centers.
Datsyuk up to 11Pts in 9GP
Kule no points, improves to +7 on the year.
Malkin adds a goal and 1 assist, up to 13pts in 12GP

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Grabovski 2A in the win, bringing him to 3g/3a in 9 games after a slow start.

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