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10-16-2012, 07:42 AM
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I agree with letting Swisher walk, however I also feel there is no need to have any full-time DH. Let Nix or Nunez play full time and rotate A-Rod in mainly as DH/3b. Get Gardner healthy for a full season and re-sign Ichiro. The line-up becomes A LOT more balanced with just those moves.....

Jeter - SS/DH
Ichiro - RF
Tex - 1B
Cano - 2B
Arod - DH/3B
Granderson - CF
Martin - C
Gardner - LF
Nunez/Nix - SS/3B/DH

They NEED to get younger. They need to be able to manufacture runs. That puts speed at both the top and the bottom of the order. The DH spot should be used almost totally to give Jeter and ARod games as a DH. Just use a platoon there an leave the rest as is. That line-up should have at least (3) .300+ hitters (Jeter, Cano, Ichiro/Gardner)
This a realistic lineup and one I'd be on board with. All of you saying to let Granderson go are nuts. Club option for 13 mil and the guy was second in the majors in HRs. You think they'll let him go? Ha.

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10-16-2012, 08:56 AM
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One dimensional as in relying solely on long ball?

2009 Yankees relied on long ball as well. That one turned out pretty good. Problem with 2012 Yankees is that they have lots of guys who are looking clueless at the plate at the moment (A-Rod, Swisher, Granderson, Martin). That's 4 guys that are pretty much automatic outs right now, you dont win with that. Slumping at the wrong time unfortunately.
That team also walked A TON. That led to more baserunners and the wearing down of the opposing pitching staff. Not happening anymore. One-Dimensional.

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10-16-2012, 05:51 PM
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Brett Gardner LF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Raul Ibanez DH
Russell Martin C
Eric Chavez 3B
Curtis Granderson CF
Eduardo Nunez SS

I fully support Gardner in for Swisher. I would have stuck with A-Rod and Nix, though. Not too disappointed, but A-Rod has success against Verlander, and Chavez isn't hitting a thing either. Hard to argue with 0-18 with 12 Ks against RHP, however.

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10-16-2012, 06:12 PM
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Jones instead of Grandy.

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10-16-2012, 06:13 PM
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Jones instead of Grandy.
Not on the roster and eww.

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Gardner for Swisher should've been done for Game 1.

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10-16-2012, 07:19 PM
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That team also walked A TON. That led to more baserunners and the wearing down of the opposing pitching staff. Not happening anymore. One-Dimensional.

They did. Hard to get on the base at the same clip as a team when you have 4 holes in your lineup. At least Cano sees some pitches. Martin gets too HR-happy. Granderson falls behind 0-2 and every one watching knows there's a breaking ball in the dirt coming up yet he still swings at it. A-Rod just looks at 3 pitches and walks back to the dug out.

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10-16-2012, 07:24 PM
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They did. Hard to get on the base at the same clip as a team when you have 4 holes in your lineup. At least Cano sees some pitches. Martin gets too HR-happy. Granderson falls behind 0-2 and every one watching knows there's a breaking ball in the dirt coming up yet he still swings at it. A-Rod just looks at 3 pitches and walks back to the dug out.
Huh?

Pitches per plate appearance (2012 playoffs):
Alex Rodriguez: 4.32
Russell Martin: 4.14
Nick Swisher: 4.13
Curtis Granderson: 4.07
Robinson Cano: 3.82

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10-16-2012, 07:30 PM
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Huh?

Pitches per plate appearance (2012 playoffs):
Alex Rodriguez: 4.32
Russell Martin: 4.14
Nick Swisher: 4.13
Curtis Granderson: 4.07
Robinson Cano: 3.82

I'll stand corrected. Looked like he was at least fouling off some pitches. He's been worse than I thought.

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10-16-2012, 08:05 PM
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30 million role player.

Sorry, Yankee stadium isn't selling tix like they used to. The empty seats in the playoffs prove that. And the economy will only get worse this upcoming year...hence Grandy & Swisher being pretty much gone next year. These corporations, like the Yankees, aren't stupid, they know rough times are ahead, hence the lack of hiring. Arod is a huuuuuge albatross on this team til 2017.

Arod is in Chris Drury territory. Too bad Drury wasn't hopped up on roids for a stanley cup run, but it is what it is.
Well you're stuck with him either way. Are you going to continue to watch him strike out in the middle of the order or are you going to give him a job he can do and get the most use out of it that you can?

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Not on the roster and eww.
Jones would be a huge improvement over Granderson right now. Granderson is terrible in the field, zero range, noodle arm and strikes out more often than any Yankee on the roster.

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10-16-2012, 11:46 PM
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well now let's see if they can pull off the improbable, like the 04 redsox did to them.

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10-16-2012, 11:54 PM
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Props to Nunez for the bomb, and saving a run with his glove earlier in the game. Hopefully CC can get it to Andy Thursday, but who knows.

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10-17-2012, 12:03 AM
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Wasn't expecting to win this series.

Don't hit, can't win.

Fix this offense Cashman.

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10-17-2012, 12:13 AM
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Wasn't expecting to win this series.

Don't hit, can't win.

Fix this offense Cashman.
I have zero faith in this guy. This offense has been overly reliant on the home run for years and he's failed to address the problem. In fact his acquisitions have exacerbated the problem.

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10-17-2012, 05:49 AM
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Yankees offseason checklist:

- Fire Kevin Long

- Get rid of Swisher

- Get rid of Granderson

- Get rid of A-Rod. If they can't, bury him in the minors or bench him until he retires. He's a washed up minor leaguer at this point.

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10-17-2012, 09:30 AM
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Yankees offseason checklist:

- Fire Kevin Long

- Get rid of Swisher

- Get rid of Granderson

- Get rid of A-Rod. If they can't, bury him in the minors or bench him until he retires. He's a washed up minor leaguer at this point.
Bit of a contradiction here. You want to fire Long. That implies the stagnant offense is the hitting coach's fault. Then you want to get rid of three (at least two) of the team's purported offensive weapons. So which is it? The hitting coach underachieving or those guys underachieving?

I didn't hear many people complaining about Long when Granderson was hitting 43 HRs with 106 RBI or when Swisher was hitting 24 HRs with 93 RBI.

Love to know how you think they are going to get rid of A-Rod when he's still owed 114M.

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Yankees offseason checklist:

- Fire Kevin Long

- Get rid of Swisher

- Get rid of Granderson

- Get rid of A-Rod. If they can't, bury him in the minors or bench him until he retires. He's a washed up minor leaguer at this point.
http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/report-y...eath-bell.html

Report: Yankees in Talks to Trade Alex Rodriguez to Marlins, Possibly in Exchange for Heath Bell by Dan Duquette, Jr. on Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:21PM Comments (5) inShare One highly paid third baseman couldn't bring the Marlins the success they were hoping for. Maybe a second one will. The New York Yankees are in discussions with Miami to trade Alex Rodriguez to the Marlins, according to Keith Olbermann, with the Yanks taking on most of A-Rod's remaining salary in the deal. Another option appears to be swapping Rodriguez for Marlins closer Heath Bell, with the Yankees taking on Bell's contract in exchange for paying less of Rodriguez's. None of Olbermann's sources would comment on how serious the teams have been in their talks, but someone on the Marlins side said a deal "would eventually be made in some form."

Read more at: http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/report-y...eath-bell.html

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10-17-2012, 04:33 PM
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http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/report-y...eath-bell.html

Report: Yankees in Talks to Trade Alex Rodriguez to Marlins, Possibly in Exchange for Heath Bell by Dan Duquette, Jr. on Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:21PM Comments (5) inShare One highly paid third baseman couldn't bring the Marlins the success they were hoping for. Maybe a second one will. The New York Yankees are in discussions with Miami to trade Alex Rodriguez to the Marlins, according to Keith Olbermann, with the Yanks taking on most of A-Rod's remaining salary in the deal. Another option appears to be swapping Rodriguez for Marlins closer Heath Bell, with the Yankees taking on Bell's contract in exchange for paying less of Rodriguez's. None of Olbermann's sources would comment on how serious the teams have been in their talks, but someone on the Marlins side said a deal "would eventually be made in some form."

Read more at: http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/report-y...eath-bell.html
I would do a victory dance.

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10-17-2012, 04:43 PM
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Cashman denies those reports but that means next to nothing.



Think how bad the Yankee offense has been that we haven't even seen Soriano get to close out a game.

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Cashman denies those reports but that means next to nothing.



Think how bad the Yankee offense has been that we haven't even seen Soriano get to close out a game.
Here is the update that talks about Cashman's denial.

http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/20...k-a-rod-trade/

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Bit of a contradiction here. You want to fire Long. That implies the stagnant offense is the hitting coach's fault. Then you want to get rid of three (at least two) of the team's purported offensive weapons. So which is it? The hitting coach underachieving or those guys underachieving?

I didn't hear many people complaining about Long when Granderson was hitting 43 HRs with 106 RBI or when Swisher was hitting 24 HRs with 93 RBI.

Love to know how you think they are going to get rid of A-Rod when he's still owed 114M.
Long coaches for an HR dependent or NOTHING swing...

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Long coaches for an HR dependent or NOTHING swing...
That's because he's been given a team that's built to be HR dependent.

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That's because he's been given a team that's built to be HR dependent.
Teixeira wasn't an all or nothing guy with any of his other teams.

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Jones would be a huge improvement over Granderson right now. Granderson is terrible in the field, zero range, noodle arm and strikes out more often than any Yankee on the roster.
Whereas Jones has great range and never strikes out?

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