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10-18-2012, 12:31 AM
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All Purpose Luongo Trade Discussion (New news) MOD WARNING IN OP

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Doug MacLean says he's heard Brian Burke will make an "unbelievable push" for Roberto Luongo once the lockout is over.
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Interesting to hear @JSportsnet say he believes #Canucks and #Leafs have Luongo trade all but done and are just waiting for CBA resolution.
This is getting interesting, But wait...Read this.

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So if Luongo were traded to #Leafs or anyone w/ new CBA and retired before contract ran out (age 43), #Canucks would be on hook for cap hit.
Suddenly Luongo's trade value just went up again.

Interesting stuff today.

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Clarke MacArthur and James Reimer plus some picks

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Gardiner, Kadri Reimer for Luongo + Ballard

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Tim Connolly+Jesse Blacker+2nd

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Gardiner, Kadri Reimer for Luongo + Ballard
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Nooooo, not another Joseph/Belfour : (

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Assuming this is true, either Burke suddenly decided his goaltending won't cut it and paid a price he didn't want to for a quality goalie or Gillis decided the new CBA will lower Luongo's value or gave up on the situation entirely and held Burke to his word.

Gee, that doesn't seem to go against either GM's words or anything at all. I'd be taking this one with a grain of salt.

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Reimer was skating with the NUCKS yesterday

Colborne + Macarthur + Percy ?

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Suddenly Luongo's trade value just went up again.

Interesting stuff today.
Just wondering, but how did it go up? If there's a trade to be made with the current CBA in place, Leafs wouldn't be on hook for Luongo's cap hit if he retired, no? Missed the latter part of Maclean's quote where he said Toronto thinks Roberto is now cheaper..

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Just Heard Doug Mclean on team1040 saying that he heard the leafs will go hard after Luongo when CBA is sorted as they believe they can get him cheaper than in the summer.

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Just wondering, but how did it go up? If there's a trade to be made with the current CBA in place, Leafs wouldn't be on hook for Luongo's cap hit if he retired, no? Missed the latter part of Maclean's quote where he said Toronto thinks Roberto is now cheaper..
It's just my opinion, If the cap hit is not transferred, then the leafs would have to pay more because the contract does not look nearly as bad as it did before.

I don't understand how he is cheaper.

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I'd love if this trade happened as long as Gardiner or our first round pick aren't going the other way.

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It's odd. The Leafs don't gain anything out of the news that came out last night. It shouldn't raise what the Leafs are willing to offer. However, you would think Gillis would want more, considering Vancouver could be on the hook if Luongo retires.

Just doesn't add up to me. We'll see.

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I'd love if this trade happened as long as Gardiner or our first round pick aren't going the other way.
I wouldn't mind a 1st if its for luongo but Rielly should be completely untouchable.

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I'd love if this trade happened as long as Gardiner or our first round pick aren't going the other way.
To Van- Gunnarsson, Kulemin
To Tor- Luongo, Raymond

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To Van- Gunnarsson, Kulemin
To Tor- Luongo, Raymond
We don't need Gunnarsson, and Toronto does. But valuewise the Leafs make out like bandits.

I really hope one of JVR or Lupul are on the table...I doubt it though.

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Where exactly did Shannon say this?

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I wouldn't mind a 1st if its for luongo but Rielly should be completely untouchable.
Yah, I didn't bother mentioning Kessel, Phaneuf, or Rielly because I assumed everyone knew they wouldn't be getting traded anytime soon. Gardiner and our first could actually be used as trade bait though(maybe not Gardiner, hard to say). I guess if we got Luongo, our first would be a lot lower than it would be without him.

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We don't need Gunnarsson, and Toronto does. But valuewise the Leafs make out like bandits.

I really hope one of JVR or Lupul are on the table...I doubt it though.
Yah, he's our #2 or #3, so he has more value to us than Vancouver.

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I'd love if this trade happened as long as Gardiner or our first round pick aren't going the other way.
Reilly for Luongo straight up, shot out of a cannon.

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I think with the addition of Rielly,I would think Gardiner becomes a little expendable, I don't see him as untouchable as he was before the draft.

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Yah, I didn't bother mentioning Kessel, Phaneuf, or Rielly because I assumed everyone knew they wouldn't be getting traded anytime soon. Gardiner and our first could actually be used as trade bait though(maybe not Gardiner, hard to say). I guess if we got Luongo, our first would be a lot lower than it would be without him.
Well Gardiner should be valued as untouchable not a trade asset in the leafs best interest unless its for a number 1 center.

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My guess is Lombardi + two of Kulemin, Colborne, 1st. Still pretty hard to speculate at this point though.

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We don't need Gunnarsson, and Toronto does. But valuewise the Leafs make out like bandits.
We do if we want to move Ballard and his hefty salary out. Gunnarsson is miles better than Andrew Alberts, the guy that would slide into the starting lineup if Ballard is dealt...

It's good value for the Leafs. Though don't forget the Canucks shed over $4mil in cap space - while setting themselves up to shed much more by moving Ballard.

This is a deal that looks good going forward if the cap drops to $60mil...

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We do if we want to move Ballard and his hefty salary out. Gunnarsson is miles better than Andrew Alberts, the guy that would slide into the starting lineup if Ballard is dealt...

It's good value for the Leafs. Though don't forget the Canucks shed over $4mil in cap space - while setting themselves up to shed much more by moving Ballard.

This is a deal that looks good going forward if the cap drops to $60mil...
I don't like getting ripped off in trades for the sake of cap space.

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I don't understand how he is cheaper.
Friedman also had an article up on Wednesday with a sub-section titled "Luongo Less Attractive?"

Of course it's all speculation at this point. Will be interesting to see what actually transpires in the end

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