The Lockout Thread: Good Things Come To Those Who Wait

[Novacane]

Does anyone know who the Hurricanes' player rep is? I've seen no statements about how "awful" the deal is so they either don't exist or are just being quiet.

EDIT: Looks like they don't exist as long as things haven't changed. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...ing-committee/

[jbk ltd]

Tim Brent is the Canes NHLPA rep, he inherited the role when Bryan Allen left (per Mike Sundheim earlier this summer).

[Novacane]

Originally Posted by jbk ltd

Tim Brent is the Canes NHLPA rep, he inherited the role when Bryan Allen left (per Mike Sundheim earlier this summer).

Alright, thanks.

[MD]

Pretty big day today as the NHLPA presents their counter proposal. Hopefully they base it off the NHLs last offer or this won't be very productive at all.

[Gotta Catch Em Staal]

Eric Staal is at the meeting today.

[What the Faulk]

Originally Posted by MD

Pretty big day today as the NHLPA presents their counter proposal. Hopefully they base it off the NHLs last offer or this won't be very productive at all.

Aaron Ward @aaronward_nhl
Per player source,NHLPA #CBA proposal "should be interesting today because it comes closer to NHL ideology". #TSN
(https://twitter.com/aaronward_nhl/st...84912768618498)

Josh Rimer @JoshRimerHockey
Have been told that the NHLPA's counter offer for the most part will be off the NHL's latest offer.
(https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/...81660568215552)

[Joe McGrath]

Originally Posted by HaroldVonKimblestein

Eric Staal is at the meeting today.

There goes any optimism. When's the last time he accomplished a ******* thing in October?

[Tavex]

4 proposals. All with a 50/50 split of revenues.

[MD]

Originally Posted by Tavex

4 proposals. All with a 50/50 split of revenues.

this is good. i think it would be safe to assume we will have hockey back on Nov. 2

[What the Faulk]

Originally Posted by Joe McGrath

There goes any optimism. When's the last time he accomplished a ******* thing in October?

Well played

[Gotta Catch Em Staal]

Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange
Bettman - we are not speaking the same language. I hope we can have an 82 game schedule; players made a step backward.

[Guy]

Bettman shoots down the offers, the lockout continues. Now I need to figure out what to spend my STH money on after I pull it out.

[MD]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Bettman confirms NHLPA made three counter proposals. Says none of them "even began to approach 50-50." Not encouraged

welp

[Tavex]

[Highway to Cap Hell]

The sooner the players accept that 50-50 is the wave of the future (and the best that they are going to get), then the sooner that we can have hockey.

The NHL has the money and the leverage to just sit back and claim "Well, the NFL, NBA and MLB all did it. Why not us?". All day long.

And for the rest of the season.

[dammit100]

If i had a puppy, it would be getting kicked right now.

[CarolinaCaniac]

What the fudge is the player's problem?!?!?!?!? Other than Fehr of course.

When are they going to get it through their thick freaking skulls that 57% is ancient history. They are NOT going to get it and have ZERO leverage in the situation.

Very disappointed. This season is on the cusp of being a complete loss and the greedy players are 100% to blame.

I'm going to go throw up now.

[Highway to Cap Hell]

David Shoalts‏@dshoalts

As soon as Gary Bettman stepped to microphone you knew it was bad news. Almost always he keeps his cool in public. This time he was seething.

Well played by Bettman. I can't believe Fehr fell for this. Most of the public viewed the NHL's previous offer as, if nothing else, reasonable. Preliminary reports are saying that Fehr ignored it and just tweaked his original offer.

Result is that public opinion is now overwhelmingly anti-Union. I guess Fehr anticipated this (hence the multiple offers), but it didn't work.

And if Bettman's (controlled) anger indicated by the above tweet means anything, I would guess that the tweak's were not nearly enough. Seems to be in the opposite direction.

[Guy]

I could care less about public perception of each side and/or "PR wins". They can both eat ****, and they can fight over less money because I'm fully prepared to not give them anymore.

[Tavex]

This whole situation is beyond pathetic.

[MD]

I'm pissed.

[WoodGundy]

Originally Posted by Plan The Parade

Result is that public opinion is now overwhelmingly anti-Union.

I have to admit to being pro-owner from the beginning, but now I'm almost willing to sacrifice the season if it means the owners crush the players.

If it wasn't for the Staal trade and the Semin signing, there would be no almost about it.

[Highway to Cap Hell]

The PA is not going to release their documents. If they were as close as the PA claims, then they would certainly cause the PR mood to shift. At least from the current "**** the players" hatefest that is the BoH board.

Right now, all we know is that 1 of the proposals (or perhaps all of them?) actually increased HRR for the players in the first year from 57%. This is a quote from Bettman.

Without releasing the documents, the PA is giving Bettman free reign to describe the deals to the public. Which is a horrible, horrible move (and explains why he was "seething").

[HisIceness]

Damn. It.

So now were stuck with the minor leagues and/or the ****ing boring as ****ing **** KHL.

**** you NHL, **** you so ****ing hard.

[MD]

Fehr says he thinks 50% isnt a fair deal. see you guys next season

Edit: Apparently this was one of the proposals...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Fehr on No 3 proposal - players to go 50/50 as long as owners promise to honor all contracts that were signed by players

if thats not fair, im not sure what is