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10-01-2012, 10:51 AM
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Here's the depth chart for October 2012. Pretty accurate at this point, I think:

Forwards
Kovalchuk-Malkin-Radulov
Oveckin-Datsyuk-Semin
Kulyomin-Anisimov-Kuznetsov
Popov-Tereschenko-Perezhogin

Shirokov-Svitov-Tarasenko
Kokarev-Shipachyov-Ketov
Zherdev-Tikhonov-Yakupov
Frolov-Burmistrov-Makarov
Dadonov-Loktionov-Bodrov
Zaripov-Zinoviev-Kalinin
Burdasov-Grigorenko-Anisin
Filatov-Zubov-Morozov
Panarin---C---Kucherov
Slepyshev---C---Artyukhin
Grachev---C---Zharkov
Mozyakin---C---Petrov
Gusev---C---Averin


Defense

Medvedev-Nikulin
Kulikov-Emelin
Biryukov-Kalinin
Voynov-Orlov

Belov-Denisov
Nikitin-Tyutin
Markov-Gonchar
Grebeshkov-Ryasenksi
Goncharov-Korneyev
Koltsov-Marchenko
Alexandrov-Zubaryov
Zaitsev-Chudinov
Pivtsakin-Pashnin

Goalies
Varlamov
Bryzgalov
Barulin
Bobrovsky
Biryukov
Khudobin
Yeremenko
Makarov
Vasilevski

*Bolded are locks, IMO

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10-01-2012, 06:40 PM
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Ovechkin-Datsyuk(A)-Semin
Kulyomin-Malkin-Kuznetsov
Kovalchuk(A)-Tereschenko-Tarasenko
Zherdev-Svitov-Radulov
Perezhogin, Popov

Medvedev-Nikulin (C)
Voynov-Emelin
Chudinov-Kalinin
Kulikov-Biryukov

Bryzgalov
Varlamov
Barulin

It will definitely be fun to watch Russian offensive play Slovak defence in Sochi . This time I think Russia won't do a bad decision to play KHL defenders. It will be bigger ice than it was in Vancouver. Gonchar and Markov are ageing and KHL defenders were better on bigger ice at WCs than NHL guys like Nikitin, Tyutin or Volchenkov. Talking about forwards I think Russia shouldn't play all the superstars in TOP 2 lines. It didn't work for Russia in the past except of the Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Semin line. Combine them with hard working guys (Kulyomin-Malkin, Svitov-Radulov). That can work better for Russia IMO.

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10-07-2012, 04:02 PM
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Here's the depth chart for October 2012. Pretty accurate at this point, I think:

Forwards
Kovalchuk-Malkin-Radulov
Oveckin-Datsyuk-Semin
Kulyomin-Anisimov-Kuznetsov
Popov-Tereschenko-Perezhogin

Shirokov-Svitov-Tarasenko
Kokarev-Shipachyov-Ketov
Zherdev-Tikhonov-Yakupov
Frolov-Burmistrov-Makarov
Dadonov-Loktionov-Bodrov
Zaripov-Zinoviev-Kalinin
Burdasov-Grigorenko-Anisin
Filatov-Zubov-Morozov
Panarin---C---Kucherov
Slepyshev---C---Artyukhin
Grachev---C---Zharkov
Mozyakin---C---Petrov
Gusev---C---Averin


Defense

Medvedev-Nikulin
Kulikov-Emelin
Biryukov-Kalinin
Voynov-Orlov

Belov-Denisov
Nikitin-Tyutin
Markov-Gonchar
Grebeshkov-Ryasenksi
Goncharov-Korneyev
Koltsov-Marchenko
Alexandrov-Zubaryov
Zaitsev-Chudinov
Pivtsakin-Pashnin

Goalies
Varlamov
Bryzgalov
Barulin
Bobrovsky
Biryukov
Khudobin
Yeremenko
Makarov
Vasilevski

*Bolded are locks, IMO
i'd lock varlamov before bryzgalov

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10-08-2012, 06:56 PM
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Well after today's game i think the Kovalchuk-Tarasenko combo should be a given.

Right now this is the offense looking good to me, thinking 2014:

Ovechkin - Malkin - Kuznetsov
Semin - Datsyuk - Radulov
Kovalchuk - Shipachyov? - Tarasenko
Popov - Anisimov? - Yakupov

main question marks appears to be the 3rd and 4th C positions.
Tereschenko and Burmistrov are other candidates.

Hopefully someone will make a clear case for himself along the next 16 months.

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10-08-2012, 07:27 PM
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Ovechkin will play with Datsyuk and Semin - they have chemistry so why to break them? Kovy and Tarasenko look great together. Add Malkin to them, and it's gonna be a pretty sick line. Or perhaps let them play with Tikhonov as in SKA, and then Malkin+Radulov can make another great line.

So it could be like

Ovi-Dats-Semin
Kulyomin-Malkin-Radulov
Kovy-Tikhonov-Tarasenko
Whoever-else-dunnow

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Ovechkin will play with Datsyuk and Semin - they have chemistry so why to break them? Kovy and Tarasenko look great together. Add Malkin to them, and it's gonna be a pretty sick line.
Cause my guess is Ovechkin and Malkin would have even better chemistry, and it's not like Datsyuk wouldn't have good chemistry with Semin and Radulov.

As for Kovalchuk, i'd rather keep him away from Datsyuk and Malkin.
His production doesn't seem to depend too much on the quality of his centerman, and his game would actually take away from Malkin and Datsyuk instead of adding.
Malkin and Datsyuk are better served with great players that like combinations play (when the puck is shared and usually comes back after they dish it away) rather than the Kovalchuk style.

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10-10-2012, 09:01 AM
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OV and Malkin have played together in the past, with mediocre results.

Actually, Malkin seems to play at his best when he isn't on the same line as other star players. That has been the case both with Pens and NT. He plays better with Popov or Talbot then with Crosby or Ovechkin.

He is excellent at drawing attention of the opposition and finding open teammates.

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10-10-2012, 09:17 AM
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Kulemin and Malkin work well together. And Tereschenko is always good for the NT, great defensive awareness.

Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Semin
Kulemin - Malkin - Radulov
Kovalchuk - Tereschenko - Tarasenko

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He is excellent at drawing attention of the opposition and finding open teammates.
for sure.

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OV and Malkin have played together in the past, with mediocre results.
the few times i had the opportunity to see them together they looked great.
The problem is they almost never see the ice together. Now that their relationship seems just fine i don't see any reason for that; both can play the game at high speed and have quicker mind for the game -> quick reads and reactions. And their skills match perfectly.

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Actually, Malkin seems to play at his best when he isn't on the same line as other star players. That has been the case both with Pens and NT. He plays better with Popov or Talbot then with Crosby or Ovechkin.
Malkin plays great with anyone, unless is someone who plays by himself and doesn't share the puck nor understand the game.
The better linemates he has, the better it is, unless you put him at wing like some retarded Penguins coaches liked to do

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10-18-2012, 02:29 PM
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OV and Malkin have played together in the past, with mediocre results.

Actually, Malkin seems to play at his best when he isn't on the same line as other star players. That has been the case both with Pens and NT. He plays better with Popov or Talbot then with Crosby or Ovechkin.

He is excellent at drawing attention of the opposition and finding open teammates.
Malkin likes the puck as fast and as neat to him as possible, hes a greedy player but he gets stuff done. With that said I think Kovulchuk on Malkins line would be great. Kovulchuk is not a selfish player and hes very smart. I think Kovulchuk and Malkin on one line with maybe Taresenko or Popov on their line is huge.

Ovechkin on the 2nd line should be with Datsyuk, both guys who need attention away from one another to get production and they can do that for one another. Idk if i like Semin on that line though... I believe a good winger could be Radulov on this line

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Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Radulov
Semin-Malkin-Kuznetsov
Kovalchuk-Tikhonov-Tarasenko
Kulemin-Svitov-Yakupov
Tereschenko

On the bubble: Zherdev, Anisimov, Perezhogin, Grigorenko, Burmistrov, Popov

p.s. It's quite possible that the fate of the Sochi's gold is being decided right now, by Bettman and Fehr. The longer this lockout will hold, the better tuned russian NT will be.

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10-19-2012, 10:34 AM
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Malkin is Russias best player. NHL MVP, WC MVP and striving for more. Since hes taken his workouts and offseason more seriously he has become a dominant force and an elite player.


Ilya Kovulchuk and Malkin will be a nice compliment for one another. Malkin loves the puck, Ilya is not stubborn nor is he selfish.

Kov, Malkin, Radulov
Ovi, Datsyuk, Semin

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Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Radulov
Semin-Malkin-Kuznetsov
Kovalchuk-Tikhonov-Tarasenko
Kulemin-Svitov-Yakupov
Tereschenko

On the bubble: Zherdev, Anisimov, Perezhogin, Grigorenko, Burmistrov, Popov

p.s. It's quite possible that the fate of the Sochi's gold is being decided right now, by Bettman and Fehr. The longer this lockout will hold, the better tuned russian NT will be.
It's possible the players may give up Olympic participation in favor of an NHL/NHLPA tournament. i.e. world cup. CBA may conclude, NHL will agree to honor the value of all existing contracts, but as a condition, the NHLPA gives up Olympics in favor of a World Cup. possible.

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10-20-2012, 03:38 PM
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Malkin is Russias best player. NHL MVP, WC MVP and striving for more. Since hes taken his workouts and offseason more seriously he has become a dominant force and an elite player.


Ilya Kovulchuk and Malkin will be a nice compliment for one another. Malkin loves the puck, Ilya is not stubborn nor is he selfish.

Kov, Malkin, Radulov
Ovi, Datsyuk, Semin
I agree with that top 6.

I would never put Semin on the LW like some other posters did, he's terrible there- proven many times. And he is also the only player who could fall out of the top 6 for Kuznetsov or Tarasenko. Also Radulov hasn't been quiet himself, he might actually be replaced by Tarasenko if the guy keeps up.

The bottom 6 is anyone's guess, there's a lot of Good players with different skills and will come down to what tools the coaches want in the bottom 6.

Knowing the coaches, I can see the top 2 lines being all - out scoring weapons, with the 3rd line being a solid 2-way line, and 4th being a quick, workhorse shutdown line (with someone like Ketov, Tereschenko...)

Unless Yakupov blows up NHL or KHL with scoring (40+ goals), I really doubt we'll see him these Olympics.

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the decision has been made....
Here are the results of our last election in the other thread:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?p=55217627#post55217627




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In my opinion, it's really too early, because it's not easy to say where those talented guys such as Yakupov and Tarasenko will be.

But here is my roster of team Russia for the 2014 olympics:

Kovalchuk - Malkin - Radulov
Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Semin
Kuznetsov - Burmistrov - Tarasenko
Kulemin - Anisimov - Yakupov
13th: Shipachyov / Tereschenko / Perezhogin...

A. Markov - Volchenkov
Gonchar - Emelin
Kulikov - Kalinin / Atyushov
7th: Voynov

Varlamov, Yeryomenko, Bryzgalov

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A line of Yakapov-Grigorenko-Tarasenko would be pretty damn exciting.

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ovechkin-malkin-radulov
kovalchuk-datsyuk-yakupov
semin-kuznetsov-tarasenko
mozyakin/zherdev-anisimov-kulemin (not sure how good mozyakin actually is)

markov-kulikov
nikulin-medvedev
tyutin-yemelin
gonchar/nikitin/ mamashev

varlamov
barulin
bryzgalov

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ovechkin-malkin-radulov
kovalchuk-datsyuk-yakupov
semin-kuznetsov-tarasenko
mozyakin/zherdev-anisimov-kulemin (not sure how good mozyakin actually is)

markov-kulikov
nikulin-medvedev
tyutin-yemelin
gonchar/nikitin/ mamashev

varlamov
barulin
bryzgalov
If I were to predict based on what Bilyaletdinov has been playing around with over the past year I think he may go with something like this (If Tarasenko and Kuznetsov continue making big strides in development)

Perezhogin-Malkin-Mozyakin(Popov), (the Popov-Malkin-Perezhogin line at the 2012 World Championships was unstoppable)

Kovalchuk/Datsyuk/Radulov(Zherdev did well on this line at EHT when Rad was injured, Tarasenko has a chance here too due to his chemistry with Kovalchuk)

Ovechkin/Tereschenko(Shipachyov)/Kuznetsov

Kulyomin-Anisimov-Zherdev
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Syomin (Depending on where he is at heading into the tournament)
Yakupov (Will need a big year in the NHL).

In Defense,
Don't see Markov or Gonchar making the team.

Emelin-Medvedev
Biryukov-Nikulin
Kulikov-Voynov

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A line of Yakapov-Grigorenko-Tarasenko would be pretty damn exciting.
yeah but a huge defensive liability as a line at the scale of the olympics. the other great teams would salivate against playing against this line. Tarasenko should make the team, but you can't have to many 2nd year players on the team, they haven't matured on the defensive side in that short of a period. I don't think Semin will be on team, he was a huge dissapointment in vancouver, and washington last year, and i hear hasn't endured himself to well in Carolina so far

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My current prediction:

Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Semin
Mozyakin - Malkin - Radulov
Kovalchuk - Anisimov - Tarasenko
Kuznetsov - Tereschenko - Kulemin

Nikulin - Medvedev
Kulikov - Markov
Kalinin - Voynov
Belov - Tyutin

Varlamov
Bobrovskiy
Barulin

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My current prediction:

Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Semin
Mozyakin - Malkin - Radulov
Kovalchuk - Anisimov - Tarasenko
Kuznetsov - Tereschenko - Kulemin

Nikulin - Medvedev
Kulikov - Markov
Kalinin - Voynov
Belov - Tyutin

Varlamov
Bobrovskiy
Barulin
Highly doubt we will see the Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Syomin line.

More likely to see Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Radulov (Zherdev)

Don't even see Syomin making the team at this rate.

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Mozyakin Malkin Radulov
I don't know a whole lot about Mozyakin but from his highlights and stats and obvious chemistry with Malks i figured he's going to make it
Ovechkin Datsyuk Kovalchuk
Speaks for itself
Kuznetsov Tereschenko Tarasenko
I know Tarasenko is young but it's obvious he's the real deal. As for Kuznetsov he's kind of like Russias eberle too me
Kulemin Anisimov Yakupov
Not the biggest fan of Yakupov but hes explosive I think he can get a spot

Nikulin medvedev
Nikitin Kalinin
Tyutin Volchenkov
Emelin kulikov

Varlamov
Bryzgalov
Barulin

A lot of youth on my team but I think they deserve it plus when Russia brought some youth in 06 they medal'd so. What do you think?


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A lot of youth on my team but I think they deserve it plus when Russia brought some youth in 06 they medal'd so. What do you think?
They came fourth in 2006, but I see the point you are trying to make. I found the 06 team the most fun to watch along with the 1998 team that finished second.

Don't think Bil will be looking at Yakupov but he has had a good start to his NHL career, if he continues to get more comfortable and score regularly over the next year I see nothing wrong with him making the team.

I still think Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Radulov is a lock for the Olympics, the line looked superb at the EHT recently and when Zherdev played on that line instead of Radulov it still looked good.

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Nikitin, Emelin and Volchenkov are all MUCH more valuable on small ice.

In Sochi, teams are better off with puck-movers with good skating.

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