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Well cap problems, but that's not relevent this season.
I don't know why TO fans beleive Luongo will hold out or refuse to play or become a cancer if he's splitting duties with Schneider... the guy was splitting duties with Schneider last year.
Schnieder played in 33 games, not exactly a 50/50 split. Also, i believe Cory will get the lion share this year, you think Luongo is good with that?
Schnieder played in 33 games, not exactly a 50/50 split. Also, i believe Cory will get the lion share this year, you think Luongo is good with that?
I believe it will be a 50/50 split. I doubt the best goalie in our franchise's history is going to be playing 30 games after one playoff series. They'll compete for the starter job, whoever plays better will play more.
But in the post-lockout NHL, McCabe had lost his physical effectiveness, and had difficulty adapting to the new obstruction rules
What "physical effectiveness" did McCabe ever have? The guy was softer than Rick Dipietro.
They didn't "crap on him": It was well-deserved criticism for a person making 5+ million a year. And when did they criticize him? All they ever talked about was him being an "all-star defenceman!" and "one of the top D-Men in the league!"
Many don't agree with that. No GM will trade for him to give him top 4 minutes.
Mike Gillis traded for him to give him top4 minutes. The guy that's paid to run the Canucks. Before that, FLA. And before that, PHO. 3 teams vs. your opinion... Mmmyeah.
I believe it will be a 50/50 split. I doubt the best goalie in our franchise's history is going to be playing 30 games after one playoff series. They'll compete for the starter job, whoever plays better will play more.
That would make sense, but i'll tell you from experience (last season), if your coaches don't name 1 guy the #1G, both guys will be looking over thier shoulder wondering if 1 loss puts them on the bench. There NEEDS to be a clear #1 guy.
What "physical effectiveness" did McCabe ever have? The guy was softer than Rick Dipietro.
They didn't "crap on him": It was well-deserved criticism for a person making 5+ million a year. And when did they criticize him? All they ever talked about was him being an "all-star defenceman!" and "one of the top D-Men in the league!"
lol
Not a McCabe fan but everything in this post is hilariously incorrect.
Maybe not but it's atleast debatable. He is still a great skater and has all the tools to be good.
Komisarek, not so much.
No it really isn't.. Who in their right mind would trade for a guy who can't crack a lineup over guys like Rome and Alberts. Face it, he is useless garbage. Just like Komisarek.
Mike Gillis traded for him to give him top4 minutes. The guy that's paid to run the Canucks. Before that, FLA. And before that, PHO. 3 teams vs. your opinion... Mmmyeah.
This is 2012'. Things have changed. Mike Komisarek was signed to get top 4 minutes.
You're not talking about the same situation that exists today.
What "physical effectiveness" did McCabe ever have? The guy was softer than Rick Dipietro.
They didn't "crap on him": It was well-deserved criticism for a person making 5+ million a year. And when did they criticize him? All they ever talked about was him being an "all-star defenceman!" and "one of the top D-Men in the league!"
Mccabe was 4th in Norris voting in 04'. He was one of the league's elite offensive D-men for a good 4 years. Had had 68 points in 05-06'. He was worth his salary. He got far too much crap.
And you simply weren't following Mcabe on the Leafs if you think the media called him an-star and one of the top D-Men in the league. Sorry, that's so laughable and incorrect.
Mccabe was the media's whipping boy more than any NHL player for 2-3 years straight.
The very idea you bring up Mccabe's salary shows the affect the media had on you. Mccabe was so outrageously overpaid, right? What was never brought up was how, on the exact same week Mccabe got his deal from Toronto, Phoenix gave Jovanovski a 5 year deal worth 6.5 million per. And he had worse numbers in EVERY statistical category than Mccabe did. yet it was Mccabe's 5 year/5.75 million per that was just the worst contract ever signed.
Last edited by RogerRoeper*: 10-20-2012 at 11:55 AM.
No it really isn't.. Who in their right mind would trade for a guy who can't crack a lineup over guys like Rome and Alberts. Face it, he is useless garbage. Just like Komisarek.
Last year the only games he didn't play were due to injury. Even factoring in AV's mancrush on Rome, Ballard never missed a game while healthy, and never sat while Alberts or Rome played. There is so much wrong with that statement I'm going to have to stop before I get into TL;DR territory.
It isn't a thread about Ballard, though discussing the differences between two players involved in a Luongo proposal isn't out of bounds (note: I'm not sure where the Ballard stuff came from. I'm just assuming he was involved in a hypothetical deal). Let's just try not to get it too far off topic. It isn't a thread about Ballard. Let's not turn it into a thread about Ballard, or anyone else not named Luongo.
Again, discussions can branch off, but let's keep the core of the discussion to the topic. Thanks.
No it really isn't.. Who in their right mind would trade for a guy who can't crack a lineup over guys like Rome and Alberts. Face it, he is useless garbage. Just like Komisarek.
So AV's line-up structure completely forms your opinion of a player? I didn't know AV had clout. Maybe he's an infallible coach that doesn't make mistakes? Could it be? Nah.
Did you realize they just let Rome walk? Why do you think they would do that if he was a better player than Ballard? Wouldn't it make sense to keep Rome and dump Ballard?
I don't think people are paying attention to Ballard's history as a top4, nor what is currently happening with the Canucks D.
Last year the only games he didn't play were due to injury. Even factoring in AV's mancrush on Rome, Ballard never missed a game while healthy, and never sat while Alberts or Rome played. There is so much wrong with that statement I'm going to have to stop before I get into TL;DR territory.
This is 2012'. Things have changed. Mike Komisarek was signed to get top 4 minutes.
You're not talking about the same situation that exists today.
Ok so what has changed in Ballard's game that has caused his stock to plummet in your mind? What is he not doing now, that he was doing 2 yrs ago when he was a top4, sometimes top2, player on his team?
He's still got the wheels, so we know he does not have the same issue(s) Komisarek has. So what could it be?
