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10-21-2012, 09:42 PM
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I can see the argument for not putting Elliot in the top 50, if HF happens to be really down on him - it is possible, after all, that he doesn't pan out. The thing that makes it funny is that in all likelihood their assessment has little to do with it, if they've even seen him enough to judge. Avs prospects always fly under the radar and I'm perfectly ok with that.

Not getting an honorable mention is pretty silly though, especially when you include players like Tomas freaking Jurco
What you don't like Jurco? All Red Wing prospects are at least as good as the best Avs prospect. Smith alone looks like a Keith level D man and Nyquist is a first line star player. Mrazek should of been in the top 50. Detroit's prospect pool is one of the best...right? RIGHT?

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10-22-2012, 11:33 AM
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So is Colin Smith being pulled along by JC Lipon or is it a team effort?

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10-22-2012, 11:38 AM
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Colin Smith named WHL player of the week.

He had 3 goals, 10 points and a +7 rating as the Blazers went 4-0 on the road during the week.

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So is Colin Smith being pulled along by JC Lipon or is it a team effort?
From what it appears I'd almost say Smith is pulling JC Lipon. Smith seems to be the playmaker and Bozon, Lipon seem to be the finishers.

My best guess is all of them are pretty good players that are way too advanced for the WHL and probably should be playing in the AHL. Well at least Smith as Lipon was not drafted and I don't think Bozon is old enough.

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Colin Smith named WHL player of the week.

He had 3 goals, 10 points and a +7 rating as the Blazers went 4-0 on the road during the week.
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Colin Smith named WHL player of the week.

He had 3 goals, 10 points and a +7 rating as the Blazers went 4-0 on the road during the week.
Considering he's doing this as a 19 year old it's really not that impressive.

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10-22-2012, 02:21 PM
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Considering he's doing this as a 19 year old it's really not that impressive.
2nd in WHL scoring isn't impressive? He has 28 points in 13 games and they're playing on a team that hasn't lost in regulation yet. I would say what he's been doing this year is impressive, regardless of his age.

And just a heads up, most times leading scorers in the WHL are either 19 or 20.

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2nd in WHL scoring isn't impressive? He has 28 points in 13 games and they're playing on a team that hasn't lost in regulation yet. I would say what he's been doing this year is impressive, regardless of his age.

And just a heads up, most times leading scorers in the WHL are either 19 or 20.
Not as a 19 year old. The vast majority of 19 and 20 year old kids that lead the WHL in scoring do zilch in the NHL.

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10-22-2012, 03:53 PM
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Not as a 19 year old. The vast majority of 19 and 20 year old kids that lead the WHL in scoring do zilch in the NHL.
While that may be true, Smith was a top 15 scorer when he was 18 and a 20 goal 50 point player at 17. If you line his age up to what others produced, he would be showing well. He was very productive even before the WHL so what is there to say he can't be a productive NHLer?

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Not as a 19 year old. The vast majority of 19 and 20 year old kids that lead the WHL in scoring do zilch in the NHL.

It's not like anyone is saying the kid is going to be a dynamite, first line NHL star. He had a good week and was named WHL player of the week for it, that's all this is about.

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10-22-2012, 11:01 PM
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It's not like anyone is saying the kid is going to be a dynamite, first line NHL star. He had a good week and was named WHL player of the week for it, that's all this is about.
Preemptive strike against the sunshine and rainbows crowd.

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Duncan Siemens named to Team WHL for the Subway Super Series.

http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/20...12-subway.html

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Duncan Siemens named to Team WHL for the Subway Super Series.

http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/20...12-subway.html
Why are there two different rosters and what high profile prospects did Duncan beat out?

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2 games, slightly different rosters for each game as usual

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10-26-2012, 10:11 AM
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Why are there two different rosters and what high profile prospects did Duncan beat out?
There are two different rosters because the two games take place in different cities and logistically it just makes it easier to have different sets of players play in each game. Not only does it usually prevent players from missing some games with their WHL team but it also gives more guys an opportunity to get some exposure.

As for high-profile guys Duncan beat out...hmmm...guys like Josh Morrissey, David Musil, Eric Roy, Damon Severson, Dalton Thrower, Darren Dietz, Myles Bell all realistically could have been picked ahead of Duncan.

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10-26-2012, 11:24 AM
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There are two different rosters because the two games take place in different cities and logistically it just makes it easier to have different sets of players play in each game. Not only does it usually prevent players from missing some games with their WHL team but it also gives more guys an opportunity to get some exposure.

As for high-profile guys Duncan beat out...hmmm...guys like Josh Morrissey, David Musil, Eric Roy, Damon Severson, Dalton Thrower, Darren Dietz, Myles Bell all realistically could have been picked ahead of Duncan.
Thanks for posting this. Makes a lot of sense.

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Sick feed by Colin Smith in the WHL plays of the week

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10-26-2012, 11:43 PM
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To me it makes sense to have two different rosters to showcase more talent.

Also bros, Colin Smith with a 4 point night in a 8-1 win over a decent Wheat Kings team. H e was named first start of the game and had 1 goal and 3 assists.

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10-27-2012, 01:57 PM
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While I'm not complaining, Smith was a 7th round pick afterall...

Are we really looking at a skilled guy with NHL potential or just an older guy dominating younger kids whom may become nothing more than a glorified T.J. Hensick?

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10-27-2012, 02:14 PM
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While I'm not complaining, Smith was a 7th round pick afterall...

Are we really looking at a skilled guy with NHL potential or just an older guy dominating younger kids whom may become nothing more than a glorified T.J. Hensick?
I think Smith has a decent shot a becoming a top 6 winger, kind of like David Jones. The highlights I've seen make him out to be pretty creative.

I can't figure out why Smith wasn't drafted earlier in his career, looking at his stats, he seems to have been productive every year. Its not like JC Lipon who was OK then all of a sudden this year he has big numbers, probably due to better linemates and being older than most of the players.

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Smith added 2 more goals and another helper... gotta say I've found a new intriguing favorite prospect. Olver was my last

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While I'm not complaining, Smith was a 7th round pick afterall...

Are we really looking at a skilled guy with NHL potential or just an older guy dominating younger kids whom may become nothing more than a glorified T.J. Hensick?
Smith was passed over because he only put up average numbers his first year of eligibility and was incredibly small. He was very young for his draft year.

He has talent and can be a scoring forward at the NHL level but size and strength will be an issue. Yes it is the same old song but he's not a supreme talent like Eberle that has the moves and speed to dominate despite size.

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10-28-2012, 03:54 PM
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Smith added 2 more goals and another helper... gotta say I've found a new intriguing favorite prospect. Olver was my last
Smith was actually one of the players that I was familiar with before the draft and expected him to go way before the Avs took him in the 7th round.
I remember seeing him in a list of overagers that weren't picked in '11 who had good chances of getting picked in '12.

I was excited that the Avs picked him and you can see from the "prospect ranking" polls we have had that I tried to pick him and Meurs (whom by google+youtube scouting I like as well) instead of the more usual ones.
I hope this kid breaks through in the men's leagues as well.

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10-28-2012, 07:46 PM
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http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/v...2c5a00b2b18451

Two fantastic goals and an assist for Joseph Blandisi today against Windsor. Since he came to the team, he looks and skates just like... well Joey Hishon. Not quite as dynamic or as solid defensively but this video is a good indication of his top notch skill set.

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Holy crap, awesome goals.

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