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10-23-2012, 07:35 AM
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Why did I have the feeling a Boston fan would act insulted that Stastny was in a trade proposal for more than because they have center depth and don't need more of it....

The value is more than fine. It's a joke that anyone would claim Marchand has more value than Stastny. Let alone a prospect that has proven nothing at the NHL stage regardless of hype or status.

Just because a trade doesn't fit your team needs doesn't mean you go on to bash the players involved because you subscribe to the crowd mentality of "Stastny sucks".


Its more than Bostons needs. Even if Stastny has more value than Marchand....Hedjuk at 36 has next to no value for the Bruins and Hamilton is an incredible prospect. Then you want the Bruins to add a second on top of that.
I am not a Bruins fan and this is horrible for them!

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10-23-2012, 07:47 AM
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Why did I have the feeling a Boston fan would act insulted that Stastny was in a trade proposal for more than because they have center depth and don't need more of it....

The value is more than fine. It's a joke that anyone would claim Marchand has more value than Stastny. Let alone a prospect that has proven nothing at the NHL stage regardless of hype or status.

Just because a trade doesn't fit your team needs doesn't mean you go on to bash the players involved because you subscribe to the crowd mentality of "Stastny sucks".
I think you are reading way more into what he posted than what he actually said.

Stastny's contract doesn't make him valuable to Boston, I think you have to accept that some people are going to feel that way when a guy like Marchand is scoring at the same rate for half the price.

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10-23-2012, 07:59 AM
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As an Avs fan I'd consider it...

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10-23-2012, 08:02 AM
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As an Avs fan I'd consider it...
The fact that you do not jump all over it is disconcerting. This would be a steal for the Avs; the Bruins never do this.

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10-23-2012, 09:42 AM
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Paul Stastny
Milan Hejduk


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Brad Marchand
Dougie Hamilton
2nd


Boston beefs up for another cup. This would give them three #1 centers!

Colorado gets younger, more potential, and a new shiny Canuck killer.
big time suck for boston... we get a center that arguably is no better then krecji or bergeron and is signed for a higher cap hit... and we get an aging soft winger nearing retirment and somehow we throw in the draft pick to balance things out

100 times fail on this proposal

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10-23-2012, 10:10 AM
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I'll take "whacky proposals for 800 Alex"...

Wowowow this is lopsided. I honestly prefer Krejci Bergeron AND Seguin over Statsny, & I've always been a Hjeduk fan, but what is his true value at this stage of his career?

Colorado & Boston have no business trading at the moment..both team are deep at center.

NOW come trade deadline and (if) Colorado is out of the race, I'd gladly look into acquiring Hjeduk as a rental..

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10-23-2012, 10:18 AM
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The fact that you do not jump all over it is disconcerting. This would be a steal for the Avs; the Bruins never do this.
Yes, we should totally be giddy to trade our best center for yet another 2nd line winger and defensive prospect...obviously...

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10-23-2012, 10:20 AM
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Yes, we should totally be giddy to trade our best center for yet another 2nd line winger and defensive prospect...obviously...
The Top Ranked Defensive Prospect in the World actually...but yes.

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10-23-2012, 10:34 AM
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Why did I have the feeling a Boston fan would act insulted that Stastny was in a trade proposal for more than because they have center depth and don't need more of it....

The value is more than fine. It's a joke that anyone would claim Marchand has more value than Stastny. Let alone a prospect that has proven nothing at the NHL stage regardless of hype or status.

Just because a trade doesn't fit your team needs doesn't mean you go on to bash the players involved because you subscribe to the crowd mentality of "Stastny sucks".
I'm reading the post that you quoted, and - I realize that my reading comprehension might be not up to par - but can you tell me where that poster says (or even implies) that, as you so eloquently paraphrased for him, "Stastny sucks"?

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10-23-2012, 10:37 AM
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Boston has Bergeron, Krejci, Seguin, Kelly, Peverley, Campbell. Why exactly do they need another center? This deal makes absolutely no sense for Boston.

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I see no reason for the Avs to do this and I see less for Boston to do it.

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10-23-2012, 07:36 PM
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Why did I have the feeling a Boston fan would act insulted that Stastny was in a trade proposal for more than because they have center depth and don't need more of it....

The value is more than fine. It's a joke that anyone would claim Marchand has more value than Stastny. Let alone a prospect that has proven nothing at the NHL stage regardless of hype or status.

Just because a trade doesn't fit your team needs doesn't mean you go on to bash the players involved because you subscribe to the crowd mentality of "Stastny sucks".
Am I missing something? Where did he "bash Stastny" Where did he say "Stastny sucks"? He said his contract makes the other two more valuable and that's it. Should I now say I should have expected an Avs fan to blow things out of proportion and make ridiculous claims and then just make things up? Boston doesn't need a center and we need d. How does this trade make us better?

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10-23-2012, 11:29 PM
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Even tho the value is in colorados favor, i think the avs say no

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10-23-2012, 11:36 PM
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Why did I have the feeling a Boston fan would act insulted that Stastny was in a trade proposal for more than because they have center depth and don't need more of it....

The value is more than fine. It's a joke that anyone would claim Marchand has more value than Stastny. Let alone a prospect that has proven nothing at the NHL stage regardless of hype or status.

Just because a trade doesn't fit your team needs doesn't mean you go on to bash the players involved because you subscribe to the crowd mentality of "Stastny sucks".
Wait, what? No one has said Stastny sucks. At all. Comprehension, man.

What was said was Stastny's contract is not favorable to Boston's needs. They have 3 centers making over 5 Million at the start of the 13-14 season.

No one has bashed Stastny. This statement applies to all teams; each team will value their players differently. To a team like Boston, Stastny does not have as much value as he would to a team like... Toronto or Calgary, who are in dire need of a number 1 center. Value is ALWAYS relative.

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10-24-2012, 06:12 AM
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Who needs defensemen when you can have 4 first line centers?

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Yes from COL.

No from BOS.

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10-24-2012, 09:27 AM
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The Top Ranked Defensive Prospect in the World actually...but yes.
Still doesn't change the fact that he's proved nothing in the NHL, and as a bigger dman he's probably years away from becoming that top pairing EJ partner that it would make sense to trade staz for. The Avs have a lot of excellent prospect defencemen, they may not be as hyped as Hamilton, but it's still a position of depth, so trading away our best center for another one is silly, even if the guy we're getting does end up marginally better than Siemens, Gaunce, Barrie and Elliott.

It just doesn't make sense for the Avs to trade away any of their centers unless we're getting back a player ready to step onto the first pairing with EJ or a sniper ready to step onto the first line and pot 35+ goals.

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10-24-2012, 09:31 AM
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Still doesn't change the fact that he's proved nothing in the NHL, and as a bigger dman he's probably years away from becoming that top pairing EJ partner that it would make sense to trade staz for. The Avs have a lot of excellent prospect defencemen, they may not be as hyped as Hamilton, but it's still a position of depth, so trading away our best center for another one is silly, even if the guy we're getting does end up marginally better than Siemens, Gaunce, Barrie and Elliott.

It just doesn't make sense for the Avs to trade away any of their centers unless we're getting back a player ready to step onto the first pairing with EJ or a sniper ready to step onto the first line.
I hate this phrase ^ . Does this mean every prospect who has yet to prove anything in the NHL carries the same value?

Every player in the NHL at one time was "a prospect that hadn't proven anything in the NHL".. it still doesnt change his value, as he is currently still the top ranked defensive propsect in the world.

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10-24-2012, 10:45 AM
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Will counter with:

Stastny & Erik Johnson
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Krejci, Hamilton, and a 1st

But I agree with others that these teams just don't mesh well as trade partners.

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10-24-2012, 11:34 AM
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Stastny & Erik Johnson
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Krejci, Hamilton, and a 1st

But I agree with others that these teams just don't mesh well as trade partners.
Nooooo!As much as i like the aves,not gonna happen period lock er down.

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10-24-2012, 12:12 PM
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Stastny & Erik Johnson
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Krejci, Hamilton, and a 1st

But I agree with others that these teams just don't mesh well as trade partners.
swap Krejci for Seguin and I'd do it.

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the chubbiest player from Colorado for two firsts and a second from Boston

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10-24-2012, 07:53 PM
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Stastny & Erik Johnson
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Krejci, Hamilton, and a 1st

But I agree with others that these teams just don't mesh well as trade partners.
I don't want to be mean and say outlandish comments, but bro this is brutal.

We need a defenseman to play with EJ, not trade him away.

And besides we only trade with Toronto, I don't want to break up our relationship with them.

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10-24-2012, 08:54 PM
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Yup

Boston gets screwed.
I don't think these two teams can really trade well with each other.
Both are strong in the middle and the Bruins cannot let their defensemen go/Avs don't want their defensemen (except for Hamilton of course), Chara is too old to have an impact in the future for which the Avs are aiming.

Value-wise not a horrible trade if the 2nd round pick is swapped, but this does no good for Boston and only little good for Avs.

A lose-lose trade rarely goes through .

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