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10-23-2012, 02:49 PM
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As an oiler fan--I believe eberle will score 50+ goals shortly so some people might think 50+ goals in a year could be a good thing
I doubt Eberle scores more than 40 in the next 5 years, maybe ever.

How many goals will Eberle score
Betting against the market (Eberle)
Will Eberle's point production drop

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10-23-2012, 02:52 PM
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I doubt Eberle scores more than 40 in the next 5 years, maybe ever.
How many goals will Eberle score
Oh please. Same guys who said Ryan Jones would never come close to 18 goals again. Dead wrong on that one too.

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10-23-2012, 02:57 PM
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Only if Gagner can score 8 points a night

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Terrible trade for Chicago.



Toews is miles ahead of both hockey players.Making this trade,would make absolute no sense.

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Only if Gagner can score 8 points a night


Score 8 points,then go cold and only score 1 point in 7 games.Sam Gagner is the king at being inconsistent.

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I doubt Eberle scores more than 40 in the next 5 years, maybe ever.

How many goals will Eberle score
Betting against the market (Eberle)
Will Eberle's point production drop
Because he was so far from scoring 40 goals in his sophomore year?...

I think Eberle can easily hit 40.

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10-23-2012, 03:07 PM
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As an oiler fan--I believe eberle will score 50+ goals shortly so some people might think 50+ goals in a year could be a good thing
...and I think Toews can hit 50 too, one day. Doesn't mean it will happen.

Toews is as good of a goal scorer as Eberle, and is just as good of a playmaker. But on top of that, brings selke-like defense.

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10-23-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'm completely shocked myself.
You seem to be shocked more then most.

My question is since when are threads closed for being stupid. Trade rumors and free agent talk wouldnt exist if that was the case.

And since no one is trolling or being mean what reason is there to close the thread besides you are shocked? Its a bad proposal and the thread will die of natural causes

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10-23-2012, 03:55 PM
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Both teams say no.

Well at least I assume all Hawks fans say no, and I say HELL no.

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10-23-2012, 04:11 PM
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Both teams say no.

Well at least I assume all Hawks fans say no, and I say HELL no.
Wow, you can't be serious.

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10-23-2012, 05:29 PM
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Oh please. Same guys who said Ryan Jones would never come close to 18 goals again. Dead wrong on that one too.
I searched and couldn't find a single article by Cam Charron on Ryan Jones. Jonathan Willis and David Staples have some but I couldn't find any with actual predictions; they seem more worried about the fact the puck spends an awful lot of time in the Edmonton zone when he's on the ice.

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Because he was so far from scoring 40 goals in his sophomore year?...

I think Eberle can easily hit 40.
Clearly you didn't read even the first paragraph of any of those links.

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10-23-2012, 06:09 PM
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It would take Eberle + RNH at least.
Why do you have to make yourself look so bad by making a statement like this. So bad, just so bad!!!

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10-23-2012, 06:31 PM
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The difference between Eberle and Toews is not a 30 - 40 point, one-way center who is bad at faceoffs and defense plus a second rounder. And I really like Eberle. Toews is just one notch below Crosby/Malkin on the untouchable scale. Not gonna happen...
That's weird that Gagner is a 30-40 point centre when he has never scored less than 40? Huh.

As for the deal, Oil love it, Hawks don't even think about it.

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10-23-2012, 06:44 PM
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Wow, you can't be serious.
Why would Edmonton deplete their centre depth, and want to trade their best player?

I think it is perfectly understandable why Chicago wouldn't do this trade, but it doesn't mean Edmonton would want to either.

Eberle isn't the leader that Toews is, but he is starting to emerge as a leader in their dressing room. Skill level is a wash, what Toews brings is better defense and leadership. If Edmonton were in a cup run, the trade would be worth it for them but they are not.

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Why would Edmonton deplete their centre depth, and want to trade their best player?

I think it is perfectly understandable why Chicago wouldn't do this trade, but it doesn't mean Edmonton would want to either.

Eberle isn't the leader that Toews is, but he is starting to emerge as a leader in their dressing room. Skill level is a wash, what Toews brings is better defense and leadership. If Edmonton were in a cup run, the trade would be worth it for them but they are not.
Defense isn't a skill now?

Toews won't be traded anytime soon, but Eberle is one of the few young stars I'd be content with getting if Toews demanded a trade out of town. But we'd need a whole lot more then Tyler Arnason 2.0 and a second coming back.

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10-23-2012, 06:54 PM
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Defense isn't a skill now?

Toews won't be traded anytime soon, but Eberle is one of the few young stars I'd be content with getting if Toews demanded a trade out of town. But we'd need a whole lot more then Tyler Arnason 2.0 and a second coming back.
It can be a learned skill. Offense comes naturally. I prefer to have players with skills that can't be taught, which Eberle and Toews both have.

Gagner is much better then Arnason. Not a good comparison. While he is no Mike Peca, he provides consistent offense every year, plays passable defense, and sticks up for his teammates regardless of how big the guy he is fighting. Btw... He is only 23.

This is one of the times where both teams would say no.

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I searched and couldn't find a single article by Cam Charron on Ryan Jones. Jonathan Willis and David Staples have some but I couldn't find any with actual predictions; they seem more worried about the fact the puck spends an awful lot of time in the Edmonton zone when he's on the ice.


Clearly you didn't read even the first paragraph of any of those links.
It's the same old unsustainable shooting percentage argument stat freaks threw out there all summer last year only to be proven dead wrong as usual.

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Oilers say no because Towes' stock has dropped rapidly based on his retarded lockout commercials where he makes himself sound like a complete dud....joke aside Chicago says no way

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Chicago won't part with Toews unless it's an overpayment they simply cannot refuse.

maybe..

Eberle + RNH + 1st 2013 would be much closer.

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Eberle + RNH + 1st 2013, 1st 2014.

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Eberle + RNH + 1st 2013, 1st 2014.
for what? Toews, Kane, Keith? then maybe.

Seriously I think its quite a bit overboard to ask for RNH on top of Eberle, let alone 2 first rounders. I agree that the original proposal wouldn't be enough for for Toews, but lets not insult Eberle and RNH. RNH is possibly (if not probably) going to be a top 10 centre in the league quite soon (if not higher at his peak). There is no way that Edmonton would package him and Eberle for Toews alone.

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I don't think any team does it purely because you want to keep your own home grown talent. Eberle is a big part of the oilers core.

Yet if Chicago was willing to do it. I would pull the trigger as an oiler. Toews can control the pace of a game, while he may not produce as much points, he is physical and would give us one of the most dominant 1-2 punches in centre. (every championship team is deep at centre) Add in the big time wingers in Yakupov and Hall and a solid supporting class including Hemsky and Smyth. And hopefully a solid defence. (schultz, Smid and Petry all look good but we will need to be deep through 7 and 8th men there).

Last question would be in goal, Dubnyk needs a solid backup, another youngish guy who can compete for the starting job.

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Chicago won't part with Toews unless it's an overpayment they simply cannot refuse.

maybe..

Eberle + RNH + 1st 2013 would be much closer.


Sounds reasonable. If the trade was for Gretzky in his prime. But Toews as much as I like him is not worth anywhere close to this.

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10-24-2012, 12:52 AM
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Wow, you can't be serious.
VERY serious.

Eberle is a hockey God. He doesn't get traded for anything short of something that guarantees Edmonton is a powerhouse team NOW.

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Why do you have to make yourself look so bad by making a statement like this. So bad, just so bad!!!
Do you know what Toews does? Offense, defense, intangibles...and he's proven all of that too.

I hate the Hawks, but I know an elite player when I see one.

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