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NYI & Barclays Center To Make Major Announcement (mod edit: NYI to Brooklyn in 2015)

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10-24-2012, 10:02 AM
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So would this move be at the start of the 2015-16 season?

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10-24-2012, 10:03 AM
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I wonder if the Islanders will be sponsored by American Spirits and Pabst Blue Ribbon
I think they will probably end up being sponsored by Apple, a scarf company, and indie music.

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So would this move be at the start of the 2015-16 season?
There is word saying that the Isles will move to Barclay's for the 2014-1015 season. I guess there will be a deal to probably buy out that last year.

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*Much love to Long Island fans*
Sad development for this once-storied franchise. Even though the referendum essentially nixed a new development, you always hoped they'd work something out.

Sad, sad day.

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Good for the Islanders franchise.

sucks for Islanders fans out on the island.

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Ummm you know NY is an island right?
Ummmmmm no it isn't.

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It's a peninsula!

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10-24-2012, 10:07 AM
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Here is the distance between where the Islanders play now and where they will play.

It's 28 miles by car. And you don't have to go over a bridge..

http://goo.gl/maps/HPKkQ

Or 22 miles as the crow flies.

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10-24-2012, 10:08 AM
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The is 100% false, Brooklyn is on Long Island... Please just worry about Canada, there is no doubt in my mind that they will still be called the NEW YORK ISLANDERS!!!

Please start filling your arena with fans so we don't have to go through another faltering American team relocation threat in five years.

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10-24-2012, 10:09 AM
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I wonder if this is a short term thing or a long term thing?

14500 might look good compared to the current situation, but it's leaving a lot of revenue on the table for a team in a major market.

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Quick New York City geography lesson.

NYC is 5 boroughs. Only one borough is attached to the mainland U.S. That is the Bronx.

Staten Island and Manhattan are their own islands.
Queens and Brooklyn are on Long Island (along with Nassau and Suffolk Counties).

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10-24-2012, 10:09 AM
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What is the box/club seating like at the new place? That will compensate for the lower seating number one would assume.

i don't remember any been in the old place, but than again I went there for a WWE event in 2002 and wasn't really paying attention.

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Great news! I was convinced it was going to happen a while ago, with the Brooklyn Nets looking like they'll be such a sucess, the Winnipeg jets being such a sucess in a smaller arena, and the Nassau Coliseum really falling appart in such a pathetic and sad fashion (with maybe even asbesdos problems!).

So yeah, maybe with a complete re-branding like the Nets, and Taveres becoming the super-star player he was meant to be (and actually getting some help from new hires), the Islanders can challenge the Rangers and Devils once again.

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I wonder if this is a short term thing or a long term thing?

14500 might look good compared to the current situation, but it's leaving a lot of revenue on the table for a team in a major market.
It definitively has to be very long term.

And 14 500 is perfect for a more Niche product that draws less like the Islanders. Here's why:

When there are 5 000+ empty seats almost available for free every night, people dont want to pay a lot for tickets or buy season tickets at all!

But when there is more demand then offer, the sale of season tickets will be higher, the sale price of regular tickets will be higher, and the ambiance will be of better quality and draw more!

Also, the luxury boxes in the new arena will really help the team have a profit.

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Wow. Just overjoyed right now. This is my franchise, and despite how crappy it's been for a long time, we have a lot of history. I am so glad they will still be near me.

With rumors of a 25 year lease, I'll be even happier if true.

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I wonder if this is a short term thing or a long term thing?

14500 might look good compared to the current situation, but it's leaving a lot of revenue on the table for a team in a major market.
If you check the Isles section, we've had a couple of threads devoted to the Barclay's Center.

Essentially, the seating capacity can be increased and will definitely be discussed. Add in the corporate boxes (NVMC doesn't have too many), there should be a much stronger revenue stream from them.

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Bad news for hockey.
Why can't Wang just build an arena in Nassau County himself? Or Somewhere on Long Island?

Another Billionaire owner screwing over the fans and throwing hockey history out the window because taxpayers won't finance his business.

It's a racket.


I guess as long as they don't change their name, it's not that bad.

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*Much love to Long Island fans*
Sad development for this once-storied franchise. Even though the referendum essentially nixed a new development, you always hoped they'd work something out.

Sad, sad day.
No, sad would have been if they moved all the way across the country to Seattle. The same fans can still make it to a few games at least.

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Ummmmmm no it isn't.
UMMMM, most of New York City is actually located on a series of islands.

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What is the box/club seating like at the new place? That will compensate for the lower seating number one would assume.

i don't remember any been in the old place, but than again I went there for a WWE event in 2002 and wasn't really paying attention.
I forget the exact numbers, but the Barclays Center has 3 times more luxury boxes/suites than the Coliseum. I think the Coliseum is 32 suites...Barclays something like 90.

So right there, you can make a killing.

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Quick New York City geography lesson.

NYC is 5 boroughs. Only one borough is attached to the mainland U.S. That is the Bronx.

Staten Island and Manhattan are their own islands.
Queens and Brooklyn are on Long Island (along with Nassau and Suffolk Counties).
Well Technically Manhattan is composed of Manhattan island, a few smaller islands (Rosevelt and some other one) and part of the mainland called marble hill I think (which technically used to be on Manhattan island but a river rerouting moved it to the mainland).

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UMMMM, most of New York City is actually located on a series of islands.
So most of NY City being located on a series of islands is the same as NY being an island. Ok buddy.

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People complaining about seating capacity need to realize that the Islanders have one of the largest TV contracts in the league something Winnipeg doesn't have.

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Bad news for hockey.
Why can't Wang just build an arena in Nassau County himself? Or Somewhere on Long Island?

Another Billionaire owner screwing over the fans and throwing hockey history out the window because taxpayers won't finance his business.

It's a racket.
You must have missed the last few years. Seriously? Wang tried LIKE CRAZY to build an arena on THE SAME SITE! Look up the Lighthouse project. There were going to be stores, restaurants, bars, and so on to attract people to the area. Every single thing he tried to do was shot down by the local government. The Isles were basically evicted from the area. Blame local politicians not C. Wang.

Wang should be applauded for keeping the team in NY and on Long Island! He did the best thing available for the fans. He could have easily moved the team to another area.

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UMMMM, most of New York City is actually located on a series of islands.

New York City has 5 boroughs - Manhattan is an Island (New York County), so is Staten Island (Richmond County). The Bronx (Bronx County) is part of the mainland, and Brooklyn (Kings County) & Queens (Queens County) are physically part of Long Island.

Politically, Nassau and Suffolk Counties to the East are known as "Long Island", but they share the same land as Brooklyn

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This is a bit off topic but who financed the barcleys center? It was all ratner right?

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