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NYI & Barclays Center To Make Major Announcement (mod edit: NYI to Brooklyn in 2015)

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10-24-2012, 11:20 AM
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Just as long as they don't re-name them the Brooklyn Arcade Fires or the Brooklyn Park Slope Moms

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10-24-2012, 11:21 AM
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People complaining about seating capacity need to realize that the Islanders have one of the largest TV contracts in the league something Winnipeg doesn't have.
Why are you singling out Winnipeg here?

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10-24-2012, 11:21 AM
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You must have missed the last few years. Seriously? Wang tried LIKE CRAZY to build an arena on THE SAME SITE! Look up the Lighthouse project. There were going to be stores, restaurants, bars, and so on to attract people to the area. Every single thing he tried to do was shot down by the local government. The Isles were basically evicted from the area. Blame local politicians not C. Wang.

Wang should be applauded for keeping the team in NY and on Long Island! He did the best thing available for the fans. He could have easily moved the team to another area.
As long as they don't change the name, that's cool. Didn't realize Brooklyn was on the Island.

Still, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

It's not politicians jobs to build arenas. Wang or Katz or any of these guys can buy the land and build their own arena without a shakedown.

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Their playoff beards will be so apt.

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Good move IMO. I'd suspect that many Islander fans work in Manhattan and will have an easier time getting to Brooklyn for a weeknight game. This gives them a new arena in the same market without taxpayer burden. I like it.

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Well Technically Manhattan is composed of Manhattan island, a few smaller islands (Rosevelt and some other one) and part of the mainland called marble hill I think (which technically used to be on Manhattan island but a river rerouting moved it to the mainland).
Yeah, there is a part of what people assume is the Bronx that is actually part of Manhattan. The reason is that the harlem river at the top of Manhattan was too narrow to allow for ship traffic. So they excavated a straight line across to the south and filled in the old harlem river. The land below the old harlem river is still part of manhattan even though it's now physically surrounded by the bronx



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Why are you singling out Winnipeg here?
Because Winnipeg currently have the smallest capacity and Barcleys will have about 500 fewer seats for hockey.

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10-24-2012, 11:25 AM
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As long as they don't change the name, that's cool. Didn't realize Brooklyn was on the Island.

Still, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

It's not politicians jobs to build arenas. Wang or Katz or any of these guys can buy the land and build their own arena without a shakedown.
Being reported that the NHL has insisted that they remain the New York Islanders so there will be no name change.

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As long as they don't change the name, that's cool. Didn't realize Brooklyn was on the Island.

Still, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

It's not politicians jobs to build arenas. Wang or Katz or any of these guys can buy the land and build their own arena without a shakedown.
Ummmmm....


WANG DID!!!!!

He was going to pay for the Lighthouse HIMSELF and they told him to **** off. You are right about the arena only option talked about last year but when this whole thing started 10 years ago Wang was going to foot the bill himself.

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10-24-2012, 11:28 AM
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Is Jay Z going to own 1/10th of a 1/10th of the team while acting like the principle owner?

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The best news about this is that the NHL is anticipating on having a 2014-2015 season.

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Fantastic news, and as an islander fan, I'm so thankful that they are staying on the island. Good job all around

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Because Winnipeg currently have the smallest capacity and Barcleys will have about 500 fewer seats for hockey.
TNSE owns the MTS Centre, Wang doesn't own Barclays, hope he gets good lease terms.

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This news just goes to show you how unhappy they were with their current arena and how unwilling they were to sell/relocate as many have speculated.

Probably a decent short-term solution, but doubt that the Isles want to stay permanently in such a small venue. Sure that talks about a new area will continue, be that in Brooklyn, Queens, or back in the Long Island suburbs. As such, no way they change their name, even if it's just swapping New York with Brooklyn.

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10-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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If they pack the house every night and ticket prices aren't set too low, the Isles will be fine in the new arena.
Pack it with who? The Islander fan base in Nassau and Suffolk counties don't attend the games now. Those fans aren't driving to Brooklyn. That's a nightmare. Take the Long Island RR. Depending upon where they live,its at least a 45-60 minute ride. Those people are taking a train to Brooklyn? Its great for Rangers fans living in NYC and in NJ. They get a chance to the Rangers 3-4 more time per season.

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10-24-2012, 11:32 AM
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I think this is great news that loyal Islander fans definitely deserve.

It's pretty amazing looking at Google Maps how close all 3 NY area teams are going to be to each other. The Islanders used to be at least a bit removed where they were, but now all three are going to be in pretty close proximity. It's like New York baseball was back in the 1950's.

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10-24-2012, 11:32 AM
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So most of NY City being located on a series of islands is the same as NY being an island. Ok buddy.
I just meant that they can still use the Islanders and it would still make sense.

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10-24-2012, 11:33 AM
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This news just goes to show you how unhappy they were with their current arena and how unwilling they were to sell/relocate as many have speculated.

Probably a decent short-term solution, but doubt that the Isles want to stay permanently in such a small venue. Sure that talks about a new area will continue, be that in Brooklyn, Queens, or back in the Long Island suburbs. As such, no way they change their name, even if it's just swapping New York with Brooklyn.
Umm, it's reportedly a 25 year agreement dude.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/ny...d.html?hp&_r=0

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10-24-2012, 11:33 AM
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Just as long as they don't re-name them the Brooklyn Arcade Fires or the Brooklyn Park Slope Moms
You know they're a Montreal band?

More like The Brooklyn National.

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Stream that TV On the Radio!

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This news just goes to show you how unhappy they were with their current arena and how unwilling they were to sell/relocate as many have speculated.

Probably a decent short-term solution, but doubt that the Isles want to stay permanently in such a small venue. Sure that talks about a new area will continue, be that in Brooklyn, Queens, or back in the Long Island suburbs. As such, no way they change their name, even if it's just swapping New York with Brooklyn.
They're signing a 25 year lease. The arena will be renovated and made bigger.


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Thanks.

I google mapped it and saw it is far closer to NYC than the Nassau Colliseum.

I assume that will have to help ticket sales.

For those from NYC, how easy is transportation from Penn Stn to Barclay's Centre and Nassau? Subway ride? How long?

If I go back to NYC as tourist, I'd definitely check out Islanders games if they're now just a subway ride away.
you can get to barclays center from penn station in about 20 minutes on the subway.

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Just as long as they don't re-name them the Brooklyn Arcade Fires or the Brooklyn Park Slope Moms


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This news just goes to show you how unhappy they were with their current arena and how unwilling they were to sell/relocate as many have speculated.

Probably a decent short-term solution, but doubt that the Isles want to stay permanently in such a small venue. Sure that talks about a new area will continue, be that in Brooklyn, Queens, or back in the Long Island suburbs. As such, no way they change their name, even if it's just swapping New York with Brooklyn.
We'll have to wait until the official announcement, but here's what we have been hearing...

-25 year lease so it's not a short term option.
-It has been reported that Ratner and Barclay's are amenable to increasing seating capacity for hockey if the Isles commit to them long term.
-No name change, the Isles will remain the New York Islanders.
-Greater corporate/luxury boxes could lead to greater revenue stream than the NVMC.

In any case, we'll have to wait for the details.

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you can get to barclays center from penn station in about 20 minutes on the subway.
no connection either

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Growing up I hated the Islanders, as they ended Montreal's dominance. Couldn't stand Bossy, because he was outscoring Lafleur.

I'm glad they're not changing their name. Wang is one of those owners who has helped destroy the game by terribly overpaying the wrong players. But he's also done great harm to his own franchise with those contracts and by hiring really poor general managers.

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