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NYI & Barclays Center To Make Major Announcement (mod edit: NYI to Brooklyn in 2015)

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10-24-2012, 10:35 AM
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Umm, it's reportedly a 25 year agreement dude.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/ny...d.html?hp&_r=0
Oh snap, that's one tidbit that I honestly hadn't heard.

Okay, I'll admit it.... I am pretty shocked at that, if true. 14,500 might be more than they're averaging now, but that's with a bad team in a ****ty barn. Would've thought that they might've had higher ambitions than that!

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10-24-2012, 10:36 AM
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Pack it with who? The Islander fan base in Nassau and Suffolk counties don't attend the games now. Those fans aren't driving to Brooklyn. That's a nightmare. Take the Long Island RR. Depending upon where they live,its at least a 45-60 minute ride. Those people are taking a train to Brooklyn? Its great for Rangers fans living in NYC and in NJ. They get a chance to the Rangers 3-4 more time per season.
so what if they work in the city and take the train home after work anyway?

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Pack it with who? The Islander fan base in Nassau and Suffolk counties don't attend the games now. Those fans aren't driving to Brooklyn. That's a nightmare. Take the Long Island RR. Depending upon where they live,its at least a 45-60 minute ride. Those people are taking a train to Brooklyn? Its great for Rangers fans living in NYC and in NJ. They get a chance to the Rangers 3-4 more time per season.
I'm not intimately familiar with the populations bases around the area. Would it be unrealistic that they create more of a fan base from the Brooklyn area and manhattan to fill the arena? Is manhattan a bridge too far to be considered a realistic season ticket base? Where is the basketball teams fan base coming from after the relocation?

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But he's also done great harm to his own franchise with those contracts and by hiring really poor general managers.
He's had two bad GMs, one he inherited (and kept beyond all reason), one who worked for less than a week before seeing he couldn't have it his way. Snow has shown to be a rather impressive GM in contract negotiations and drafting.

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I'm not intimately familiar with the populations bases around the area. Would it be unrealistic that they create more of a fan base from the Brooklyn area and manhattan to fill the arena? Is manhattan a bridge too far to be considered a realistic season ticket base? Where is the basketball teams fan base coming from after the relocation?
Not unrealistic at all, but it will take a lot of work.

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10-24-2012, 10:41 AM
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And the Nassau was in Queens, right?

How will the die hard Islanders (joke removed) feel about this move? Won't it move their team further away from them if they're in Queens? Is Barclay's easy to get to from Queens?
Brooklyn and Queens are geographically on the island of Long Island. But when we (New Yorkers) say "Long Island" we mean Nassau and Suffolk counties. They are the suburbs, Brooklyn and Queens are in New York City. Although eastern Queens and western Nassau are very similar with kind of a mixed urban/suburban feel.

Islanders fans in Queens will either be closer now or it will be a wash.

Barclays Center has a Long Island Railroad terminal right next door. It will actually be easier for Long Islanders to take the train to a game. How Nassau Coliseum was built in the home of the nation's largest commuter railroad but nowhere near a station is mystifying. Of course, people who want to drive won't be happy.

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Yeah, there is a part of what people assume is the Bronx that is actually part of Manhattan. The reason is that the harlem river at the top of Manhattan was too narrow to allow for ship traffic. So they excavated a straight line across to the south and filled in the old harlem river. The land below the old harlem river is still part of manhattan even though it's not physically surrounded by the bronx

crap, I never knew that! Thanks!

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Not unrealistic at all, but it will take a lot of work.

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NYI have so many young marketable stars right now, it seems like it is the perfect time right now for this move. Hopefully this is a great move for the Islanders.

Anybody think they might rename the team Brooklyn Islanders to try to start immediately to attract new fans with a closer connection to the immediate region, or might that isolate some of their existing fanbase? I am also unfamiliar with the region or how closely people identify themselves as New Yorkers or from Brooklyn/Queen's/Manhatten, etc.

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Tremendous news for the Islanders. That team's going to be a great team to watch in the future. Glad to hear they're getting a new arena.

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10-24-2012, 10:45 AM
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Anybody think they might rename the team Brooklyn Islanders to try to start immediately to attract new fans with a closer connection to the immediate region, or might that isolate some of their existing fanbase? I am also unfamiliar with the region or how closely people identify themselves as New Yorkers or from Brooklyn/Queen's/Manhatten, etc.
It sounds like there was consideration that the Isles would change their hame to Brooklyn Islanders...but the league reportedly stepped in and said that the team has to remain the NY Islanders.

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I'm not intimately familiar with the populations bases around the area. Would it be unrealistic that they create more of a fan base from the Brooklyn area and manhattan to fill the arena? Is manhattan a bridge too far to be considered a realistic season ticket base? Where is the basketball teams fan base coming from after the relocation?
It's a net positive. There's a ton of people within walking distance, and they're right on top of a major subway station and LIRR terminal. Long Islanders will have a relatively easy time getting home after a weeknight game.

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im not ashamed to say im so overwhemed with emotion ritght now and the tears of joy have began to flow....

Everything we have been put through as fans, this has been a long long time coming

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10-24-2012, 10:47 AM
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The best news about this is that the NHL is anticipating having a 2014-2015 season.
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Any stream for the press comference?

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You know they're a Montreal band?

More like The Brooklyn National.
The National are from Ohio.

Anyways, I don't know how to feel about this, as a neutral I don't see it as good or bad but it's change and change is nice therefore it's good.

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Any stream for the press comference?
http://islanders.nhl.com will stream it live.

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Im guessing only the logo will change?

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The National are from Ohio.
They are from Ohio, but they are based in Brooklyn.

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Im guessing only the logo will change?
They'll have to do something...since the current logo has just Nassau and Suffolk Counties...I just hope it's something simple, tasteful, and keeping with tradition.

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10-24-2012, 10:51 AM
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Bad move for the Isles. Hockey is not popular at all in the New York area. Where are the fans going to come from?

The Devils struggle because south Jersey is Flyer country and north Jersey is Ranger country.

New York City is Ranger country.

The Isles really only have fans on the Island. Unless they make tens of thousands of new fans a move to Brooklyn isn't going to do anything. There's barely enough support for one team in the NYC area.

I see the Isles moving out of Brooklyn in a decade.

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Im guessing only the logo will change?
That seems likely.

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Haha just saw this tweet...

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I live on LI (have all my life) and always took the LIRR to see the NYR. Even if it is a 1 hour ride to get there.

I don't see why Isles fans won't do it. Especially in a brand new arena. Hell I might even go to a few games.

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Bad move for the Isles. Hockey is not popular at all in the New York area. Where are the fans going to come from?

The Devils struggle because south Jersey is Flyer country and north Jersey is Ranger country.

New York City is Ranger country.

The Isles really only have fans on the Island. Unless they make tens of thousands of new fans a move to Brooklyn isn't going to do anything. There's barely enough support for one team in the NYC area.

I see the Isles moving out of Brooklyn in a decade.
Bitter much? Sorry, but it's reportedly a 25 year agreement.

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They'll have to do something...since the current logo has just Nassau and Suffolk Counties...I just hope it's something simple, tasteful, and keeping with tradition.
Yeah, here's hoping it's minor. They finally got their sweaters right again (albeit with the addition of their horrible thirds), so hopefully it's just a very minor change to highlight Brooklyn and point to the approximate location of the new barn.

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