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10-24-2012, 09:22 PM
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Hanzal is an Elite #2 centre

Kadri is FAR from a lock to even make the NHL
Cool story...? Should I copy and paste my last post?

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10-24-2012, 09:23 PM
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I can't see the Leafs doing this. No matter what your opinion of Kadri is, he isn't about to be given up on by management. They still believe he's going to make an impact. They also have faith in one of McClement/Steckel as a shutdown C.
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10-24-2012, 09:24 PM
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Cool story...? Should I copy and paste my last post?
Kadri's top end is a 2nd liner.


You wouldn't trade a potential 2nd liner (+ a dump) for an elite established 2nd liner at a position of need?

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10-24-2012, 09:27 PM
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Kadri's top end is a 2nd liner.


You wouldn't trade a potential 2nd liner (+ a dump) for an elite established 2nd liner at a position of need?
a) I never compared Kadri to Hanzal. I agree, Kadri is far from certain and Hanzal is proven.

b) 2nd line C isn't a position of need.

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10-24-2012, 09:31 PM
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He would be your number 1 center

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10-24-2012, 09:31 PM
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a) I never compared Kadri to Hanzal. I agree, Kadri is far from certain and Hanzal is proven.

b) 2nd line C isn't a position of need.
a) ????????????? who cares

b) Top 2 centre definitely is. Hanzal is better than anyone you have.



.... so you agree with ''You wouldn't trade a potential 2nd liner (+ a dump) for an elite established 2nd liner''?

Do you realize that defies logic?

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He would be your number 1 center
Just about anyone would be our number one centre.

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10-24-2012, 09:43 PM
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I wouldn't even do kadri for hanzal straight up, the kid has potential through the roof. Burke is just making sure he earns his keep on the team and to be 100% ready. He would be on the team if there wasn't a lockout yes hanzal is more proven but he is a 2c at best, I guess I would dump lombardi for hanzal but not at the cost of kadri. Colborne, frattin, sure. Kadris pretty much untouchable because he hasn't bloomed yet.

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10-24-2012, 09:52 PM
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If Hanzal slotted as the 1C on the leafs, I'd be disappointed, we are expecting much more star power than that and that's what Kadri potentially brings. No dice.

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10-24-2012, 11:14 PM
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No reason for the Coyotes to consider this until Kadri proves something at the NHL level.

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10-24-2012, 11:26 PM
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Here's my counter:

To TOR:
'13 5th
Goncharov

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Connolly
Done!

Anyway, this package is definitely not getting Hanzal, who IMHO, would be the best possible acquisition for Toronto which isn't a Selke calibre C or #1 G. Offence isnt a problem, defensive forwards are. Putting Hanzal between Lupul and Kessel would let them run wild while preventing the GA.

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10-25-2012, 12:19 AM
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I wouldn't even do kadri for hanzal straight up, the kid has potential through the roof. Burke is just making sure he earns his keep on the team and to be 100% ready. He would be on the team if there wasn't a lockout yes hanzal is more proven but he is a 2c at best, I guess I would dump lombardi for hanzal but not at the cost of kadri. Colborne, frattin, sure. Kadris pretty much untouchable because he hasn't bloomed yet.
Youre gonna be one dissapointed fan

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10-25-2012, 10:39 AM
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Here's my counter:

To TOR:
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To PHX:
Connolly
It sounds like for that package, we could have our pick of Connolly or Lombardi. Either way, it's an option for a one-year stop gap 3C if Langkow isn't re-signed.

Hanzal isn't going anywhere.

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10-25-2012, 10:50 AM
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Yandle to EDM for Eberle makes sense,, give the Yotes some offensive spark on the wing.. gives Edmonton the franchise dman they currently lack.
Of course it makes sense, BUT ... Oilers fans will come in here and counter with a combination of Paajarvi, Gagner, Omark and Lander. All nice players to certain degrees, but not what one would expect/want in return for a #1 defenseman.

When the value to acquire said defenseman is deemed too high (Eberle), the fan base will cite organizational depth like Klefbom, Marincin and Gernat as reason to decline. To each his own.

That is all for another thread as this is about Hanzal to the Leafs. Back on topic.

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10-25-2012, 11:20 AM
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It sounds like for that package, we could have our pick of Connolly or Lombardi. Either way, it's an option for a one-year stop gap 3C if Langkow isn't re-signed.

Hanzal isn't going anywhere.
I'd personally prefer Connolly simply because he's the more effective offensive player, especially on special teams. With Hanzal, Gordon, and Vermette we've got three EXCELLENT defensive centers. Connolly is more of a threat when on the pp and even on the PK than is Lombardi.

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PHX doesn't have a chance to turn this down because Toronto isn't foolish enough to offer it. I don't blame the OP. He just obviously doesn't know the Coyotes very well.

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10-25-2012, 03:04 PM
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Hanzal is criminally underrated. While Phoenix could use a guy with Kadri's talent, Hanzal means too much to them. As a Toronto fan, I'd do it, of course.

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I wouldn't even do kadri for hanzal straight up, the kid has potential through the roof. Burke is just making sure he earns his keep on the team and to be 100% ready. He would be on the team if there wasn't a lockout yes hanzal is more proven but he is a 2c at best, I guess I would dump lombardi for hanzal but not at the cost of kadri. Colborne, frattin, sure. Kadris pretty much untouchable because he hasn't bloomed yet.
Wow. I'm sorry but this is nuts.

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He's my favourite nhl player right now. No.
I'm talking about his trade (actual) value, not sentimental value.

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I wouldn't even do kadri for hanzal straight up, the kid has potential through the roof. Burke is just making sure he earns his keep on the team and to be 100% ready. He would be on the team if there wasn't a lockout yes hanzal is more proven but he is a 2c at best, I guess I would dump lombardi for hanzal but not at the cost of kadri. Colborne, frattin, sure. Kadris pretty much untouchable because he hasn't bloomed yet.
Hilarious. I can't complain about the Kings roster, but I'd love to have Hanzal on my team. He's easily one of the Coyotes' best players. Kadri? Pffft.

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10-25-2012, 05:53 PM
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Hanzal for Kadri and a Cap Dump in Lombardi ...

Perhaps the most delusional trade I have seen or heard about today.

Phoenix is cash strapped still ... isn't it?

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10-25-2012, 06:01 PM
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Phoenix is cash strapped still ... isn't it?
I don't know... check your teams wallet.

Hanzal is the reason why the Coyotes can make the playoffs in the Pacific division. Not even a particularly close trade.

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I am not exaggerating when I say that this is literally the worst proposal I've ever seen on hfboards involving the the Phoenix Coyotes. I've been a member for eight and a half years, and while I've seen plenty of worse proposals, never one as bad as this that actually involves my team.

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I think you got some names confused. You must have meant Michael Handzus and he plays for San Jose, not Phoenix.

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Of course it makes sense, BUT ... Oilers fans will come in here and counter with a combination of Paajarvi, Gagner, Omark and Lander. All nice players to certain degrees, but not what one would expect/want in return for a #1 defenseman.

When the value to acquire said defenseman is deemed too high (Eberle), the fan base will cite organizational depth like Klefbom, Marincin and Gernat as reason to decline. To each his own.

That is all for another thread as this is about Hanzal to the Leafs. Back on topic.
Doesn't make sense at all. It would only make sense of OEL was coming back the other way, which won't happen.

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