I think it just weeds out the pointless fights. A player can still throw down once every 10 games and depending on how many willing fighters are on your team you can just rotate who sticks up for your teammates when the situation arises. I actually attribute this rule to the rise in offensive output by both camara and payne. Maybe they arent focused on who they are going to fight each night with the cap and are focusing more on the skill side of the game
I don't see how this should really have any impact on cheap shots. It's not like you can plan in advance to have your tough guy on the ice when a cheap shot happens. It's usually whoever is closest that tries to respond. If you've got a team with 4-5 guys who can fight some, that gives you 40-50 fights without suspension.
i think this rule is fine for younger junior players. however i would not like to see it in the NHL. and if this rule ever is implemented in the NHL i hope the number of fights would be raised to 20 before a suspension.
I think it just weeds out the pointless fights. A player can still throw down once every 10 games and depending on how many willing fighters are on your team you can just rotate who sticks up for your teammates when the situation arises. I actually attribute this rule to the rise in offensive output by both camara and payne. Maybe they arent focused on who they are going to fight each night with the cap and are focusing more on the skill side of the game
What?!
Young players can actually concentrate on playing hockey??!!
Anybody good enough to play in the CHL as a 16 or even 17 year old very very rarely gets in a fight let alone if a fighter.
They had a interview on TSN last night and Bob Boughner (Windsor coach) brought up the point that there aren't nearly as many fights after good clean hits. This is one thing I can agree with.
But we've had this fight earlier. Some of us look at it as an attempt to save the children. Others see it as one step closer to wrecking a sport we love. We all know where we stand on this, no?
It disgusts me, personally. 10-fight maximum is a non-solution to a non-problem, the mere suggestion of which is ludicrous to me (let alone the full-blown execution).
But we've had this fight earlier. Some of us look at it as an attempt to save the children. Others see it as one step closer to wrecking a sport we love. We all know where we stand on this, no?
It disgusts me, personally. 10-fight maximum is a non-solution to a non-problem, the mere suggestion of which is ludicrous to me (let alone the full-blown execution).
But, whatever.
You're ok with a 16 or 17 year old fighting a 20 year old? You don't see anything wrong with that?
You're ok with a 16 or 17 year old fighting a 20 year old? You don't see anything wrong with that?
Again, we've all had this discussion already... But if you're interested? Short-form:
The 10-fight rule is not targeted at the fights that you mention. An example of a rule that would do so, would make it illegal for 16 and 17 year old players to fight at all. The 10-fight maximum is aimed at advancing toward taking fighting out of the league altogether... Aside from the potential harm it may cause (although not excluding it) I strongly oppose the rule on principle alone.
Regardless, I don't see what you're talking about as an epidemic, I don't think it's exclusively bad, and NO - I don't have a particular bloodlust when it comes to children (if that's what's being implied).
You're ok with a 16 or 17 year old fighting a 20 year old? You don't see anything wrong with that?
I have watched hundreds of WHL games and don't ever remember that happening once....
If a 16 or 17 year old makes the CHL they are SPECIAL and not just some thug. When they fight it is each other. The guys who are "fighters" won't make it until they 18 and sure they might have to answer the bell to a very rare 20 year old thug but that is how you make a name for yourself. And since you can have only 3 20 year olds fighters usually have at max a 2 year CHL career.
This is still hockey and there are unwritten rules about stuff you do and don't just like Thornton doesn't go after Crosby. A 19 year old WHL tough guy doesn't go after Reinhardt or Lazar.
I have watched hundreds of WHL games and don't ever remember that happening once....
If a 16 or 17 year old makes the CHL they are SPECIAL and not just some thug. When they fight it is each other. The guys who are "fighters" won't make it until they 18 and sure they might have to answer the bell to a very rare 20 year old thug but that is how you make a name for yourself. And since you can have only 3 20 year olds fighters usually have at max a 2 year CHL career.
This is still hockey and there are unwritten rules about stuff you do and don't just like Thornton doesn't go after Crosby. A 19 year old WHL tough guy doesn't go after Reinhardt or Lazar.
Lucic had 21 fights as a 17 year old. Many against guys that were 2 years older than him.
Again, we've all had this discussion already... But if you're interested? Short-form:
The 10-fight rule is not targeted at the fights that you mention. An example of a rule that would do so, would make it illegal for 16 and 17 year old players to fight at all. The 10-fight maximum is aimed at advancing toward taking fighting out of the league altogether... Aside from the potential harm it may cause (although not excluding it) I strongly oppose the rule on principle alone.
Regardless, I don't see what you're talking about as an epidemic, I don't think it's exclusively bad, and NO - I don't have a particular bloodlust when it comes to children (if that's what's being implied).
I don't think they will ever take fighting out of the game. And a ten fight max pretty much just affects your goons.
Many young players nowadays are going the college route. I think the OHL realizes that some of them are not going to the OHL because of the fighting. I think this is the OHL's way of showing parents that they care about safety and that they are being proactive.
Lucic had 21 fights as a 17 year old. Many against guys that were 2 years older than him.
Lucic was not a special player.
Lucic not a special player? The guy was and is a physical freak! Lucky for us he can play some hockey too. If Lucic wasn't such a great fighter he wouldn't have made the league or for that matter the NHL ever as he would have never ever ever in a million years got a chance without fighting.
The above logic just adds another reason why fighting shouldn't be restricted!
I don't think they will ever take fighting out of the game. And a ten fight max pretty much just affects your goons.
Many young players nowadays are going the college route. I think the OHL realizes that some of them are not going to the OHL because of the fighting. I think this is the OHL's way of showing parents that they care about safety and that they are being proactive.
Or kids/parents are 2nd generation players who never made it and wish they had taken oter routes. I know Jayden Shwartz is one for sure that was never gunna be allowed by his parents to play chl. If your kid isn't gunna be a elite player in the CHL it's best to pass and play for a scholarship. Even div II and III pays for a bit and you can still make the show if you are good enough and get the eight breaks at the right time (IE Lucic haha). The CHL is great at producing good hockey players but there education system definately suffers with road trips and kids being away from home. The CHL offers "free school" for evey year played but I would venture to say atleast 50 to 60 percent of them waste that opportunity/aren't in the position to take advantage of it.
I don't think they will ever take fighting out of the game. And a ten fight max pretty much just affects your goons.
Many young players nowadays are going the college route. I think the OHL realizes that some of them are not going to the OHL because of the fighting. I think this is the OHL's way of showing parents that they care about safety and that they are being proactive.
He's actually stated that it's his goal to get fighting out of the game. So that theory is out.
And trust me, dude... It affects more than just goons. The OHL is not losing quality players to colleges because of a fear of fighting - I promise you. And even if it was, this rule STILL doesn't eliminate fighting, so what good is it?
