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10-25-2012, 01:10 PM
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Yakupov

With Yakupov getting clutch goals and lightening it up in the KHL, what would your team give for him?

A lot of teams could use a pure sniper.

EDM's needs are a legit number two centreman with size, top dman is what is needed.

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If you wanted a goalie I'd offer up Schneider straight up.

How about Alex Edler for Yakupov?

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I wouldn't give up much as a Leafs fan. Gardiner is probably all I'd offer, I wouldn't give a huge offer for a scoring winger without an NHL game, when we already have a proven scoring winger.

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If you wanted a goalie I'd offer up Schneider straight up.

How about Alex Edler for Yakupov?
Edmonton would want both of them.

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Yakupov's trade value is likely at an all time low. No one would be dumb enough to move him at this point.

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Yakupov's trade value is likely at an all time low. No one would be dumb enough to move him at this point.
Those are conflicting thoughts

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Yakupov's trade value is likely at an all time low. No one would be dumb enough to move him at this point.
Why would it be at an all time low?

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Why would it be at an all time low?
Because he is unproven. He exists merely as NHL potential.

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If you wanted a goalie I'd offer up Schneider straight up.

How about Alex Edler for Yakupov?
No and No next

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10-25-2012, 01:30 PM
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I wouldn't give up much as a Leafs fan. Gardiner is probably all I'd offer, I wouldn't give a huge offer for a scoring winger without an NHL game, when we already have a proven scoring winger.
EDM has Schultz which should be better than Gardiner, and Gardiner alone is not going to get you a player like Yak.

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Yakupov's trade value is likely at an all time low. No one would be dumb enough to move him at this point.
I would say his trade value is a lot higher than it was at the draft, how do you get that it is at an all time low?

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Because he is unproven. He exists merely as NHL potential.
That is crazy talk he is the 1st over all pick and scoring in the KHL better than most stars that are playing in the KHL. Think before you write.

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Well, this is going to be a disaster...

Edmonton wouldnt let him go for anything less than a young #1D (Yak+ for OEL, etc), or a young #2C++ for Yak. I suspect currently his value is the lowest it will ever be (with it being currently very high as he is a #1 overall who is delivering on expectations in the #2 league in the world).

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10-25-2012, 01:43 PM
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I think some people are confusing "all time low" with "declined" in terms of trade value. The people saying Yakupov's value is at an all time low is because they think his value will do nothing but rise once he plays in the NHL. Right now he's got a grand total of 0points in 0games in his NHL career, that's most certainly unproven.

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Evgeni Kuznetsov for Yakupov. Kuznetsov can play both center and wing, and has likewise lit up the KHL and scored clutch goals (led the KHL is game winners last season, with 50% more than the 2nd place tie between Tarasenko and Ruzicka). I realize Edmonton may be wary about the "Russian factor," so a deal here in unlikely. But the Caps aren't going to add significant pieces to move between Kuznetsov and Yakupov.


Other idea:
Marcus Johansson + Dmitry Orlov.

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10-25-2012, 01:47 PM
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How about we keep him? if we wanted a 2C behind RNH we could've drafted one of the Russian C's last draft, if we wanted a potential 1D we could've drafted any number of guys in a very strong D draft. We keep him, we've added Schultz, Marincin is showing promise, Klefbom was his team's best D before getting hurt, Musil has been having a very good year, etc. We need to keep these guys with elite talent and build around them.

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Well, this is going to be a disaster...

Edmonton wouldnt let him go for anything less than a young #1D (Yak+ for OEL, etc), or a young #2C++ for Yak. I suspect currently his value is the lowest it will ever be (with it being currently very high as he is a #1 overall who is delivering on expectations in the #2 league in the world).
My fellow Caps fans will start hating me right now, but what about Yak for Carlson?

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Because he is unproven. He exists merely as NHL potential.
People like you are just mind blowing, give you head a shake and go look at the first overall picks lets say the last 20 years and put them down and see how good they turned out....he was first overall for a reason don't you think? Well obviously you don't.

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How has Yakupov's value changed since mid June?

The value of Yakupov is the same value as the 1st overall pick Edmonton had just a few months ago. That pick was going to be used for Yakupov no matter who had it (apparently unless your name was Burke) and in this short of time the value won't have changed.

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If you wanted a goalie I'd offer up Schneider straight up.

How about Alex Edler for Yakupov?
Isn't he a UFA after this non-existent season. Not nearly enough.

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10-25-2012, 02:23 PM
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I think some people are confusing "all time low" with "declined" in terms of trade value. The people saying Yakupov's value is at an all time low is because they think his value will do nothing but rise once he plays in the NHL. Right now he's got a grand total of 0points in 0games in his NHL career, that's most certainly unproven.

Anyway, back on topic.
Evgeni Kuznetsov for Yakupov. Kuznetsov can play both center and wing, and has likewise lit up the KHL and scored clutch goals (led the KHL is game winners last season, with 50% more than the 2nd place tie between Tarasenko and Ruzicka). I realize Edmonton may be wary about the "Russian factor," so a deal here in unlikely. But the Caps aren't going to add significant pieces to move between Kuznetsov and Yakupov.


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Marcus Johansson + Dmitry Orlov.
Problem with Kuznetsov is he isn't coming over anytime soon.

Edmonton would be looking for more then a player who has similar potential, but may or may not be playing for them in 2 seasons.

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From the Leafs:

Gardiner
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10-25-2012, 02:26 PM
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Problem with Kuznetsov is he isn't coming over anytime soon.

Edmonton would be looking for more then a player who has similar potential, but may or may not be playing for them in 2 seasons.
His KHL deal is for this season and the next. So if the lockout extends through this entire season, you're only really losing one year to the KHL.

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How has Yakupov's value changed since mid June?

The value of Yakupov is the same value as the 1st overall pick Edmonton had just a few months ago. That pick was going to be used for Yakupov no matter who had it (apparently unless your name was Burke) and in this short of time the value won't have changed.
His value has increased as he has shown he can produce in a mens league despite limited ice time and poor teammates.

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That is crazy talk he is the 1st over all pick and scoring in the KHL better than most stars that are playing in the KHL. Think before you write.
I dont agree. He is unproven in the only league that matters to teams trading for him. The Nhl. Therefore it would be much better to wait until he IS proven in the Nhl. If he comes in and puts up 25+ goals and shows well as a rookie then you have a more valuable asset. Im not saying he has no value now, just that his value would be much higher in a year or 2 if he does well.

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From the Leafs:

Gardiner
Colborne
1st rounder (2014 lotto protected)

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Yakupov
Id make that deal from an Oilers POV if the lockout continue for the entire season.

Toronto has been one of the worst team the last couple years. If they could get a top 5 pick.

Oilers would receive one of Mackinnon, Barkov, Mohanan, Jones, Drouin... + Gardiner+Colborne

Id say thats a pretty good return for Yakupov.

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