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Karlsson vs. Doughty vs. Pietrangelo (without a twist)

View Poll Results: Who is the best defenceman (in order):
Karlsson-Pietro-Doughty 85 18.24%
Karlsson-Doughty-Pietro 75 16.09%
Pietro-Karlsson-Doughty 70 15.02%
Pietro-Doughty-Karlsson 76 16.31%
Doughty-Karlsson-Pietro 57 12.23%
Doughty-Pietro-Karlsson 103 22.10%
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10-25-2012, 04:10 PM
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There are 3 d-men (under 25) I'd pick before EK.. Drew Doty, Peitro & OEL.

So.. last pick is the best.

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10-25-2012, 04:12 PM
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Ahh threads with Karlsson have become very predictable, it's actually quite amusing. People come in, from near and far, discussing the tales of how they think other Defensemen are better than Karlsson, some pointing out flaws in Karlsson's game that irk Sens fans. Said Sens fans swoop in to come to the mighty Karlsson's aid, posting facts, opinions, stats, and just about everything they can to disprove the seemingly anit-Karlsson group. From there it's a back and forth about opinions that make Sens fans seem to have the biggest hard-on for Karlsson and makes other fans appear to have a vendetta against Karlsson, trying ever so hard to prove other Dman are better (a hyperbole I'll admit but the point stands).

I may have disturbed the natural flow of these events, but please continue.

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10-25-2012, 04:14 PM
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Ahh threads with Karlsson have become very predictable, it's actually quite amusing. People come in, from near and far, discussing the tales of how they think other Defensemen are better than Karlsson, some pointing out flaws in Karlsson's game that irk Sens fans. Said Sens fans swoop in to come to the mighty Karlsson's aid, posting facts, opinions, stats, and just about everything they can to disprove the seemingly anit-Karlsson group. From there it's a back and forth about opinions that make Sens fans seem to have the biggest hard-on for Karlsson and makes other fans appear to have a vendetta against Karlsson, trying ever so hard to prove other Dman are better (a hyperbole I'll admit but the point stands).

I may have disturbed the natural flow of these events, but please continue.
You should see the Brodeur vs. Roy vs. Hasek threads.

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10-25-2012, 04:19 PM
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You should see the Brodeur vs. Roy vs. Hasek threads.
How could I miss them It's been a while since one came up, within the next week or so there should be one curious soul that will make the thread.... again.

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Ahh threads with Karlsson have become very predictable, it's actually quite amusing. People come in, from near and far, discussing the tales of how they think other Defensemen are better than Karlsson, some pointing out flaws in Karlsson's game that irk Sens fans. Said Sens fans swoop in to come to the mighty Karlsson's aid, posting facts, opinions, stats, and just about everything they can to disprove the seemingly anit-Karlsson group. From there it's a back and forth about opinions that make Sens fans seem to have the biggest hard-on for Karlsson and makes other fans appear to have a vendetta against Karlsson, trying ever so hard to prove other Dman are better (a hyperbole I'll admit but the point stands).

I may have disturbed the natural flow of these events, but please continue.
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10-25-2012, 04:24 PM
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doughty
pietrangelo

karlsson

Just because you won the norris, doesnt mean you are the nest defenseman.

all that trophy goes too is the highest score d man.

not the best

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10-25-2012, 04:31 PM
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There are 3 d-men (under 25) I'd pick before EK.. Drew Doty, Peitro & OEL.

So.. last pick is the best.

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10-25-2012, 04:42 PM
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Doughty
Karlsson
Pietrangelo

They're all incredible and of course the order can (and probably will) change, but if I had to take one to start a team I would take Doughty.

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doughty
pietrangelo

karlsson

Just because you won the norris, doesnt mean you are the nest defenseman.

all that trophy goes too is the highest score d man.

not the best
Meh the only thing those other two have on EK is size ,
give EK 4 inches and 25 extra pounds .

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10-25-2012, 04:46 PM
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I may have disturbed the natural flow of these events, but please continue.
LOL, thank you.

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Doughty
Karlsson
Pietrangelo

They're all incredible and of course the order can (and probably will) change, but if I had to take one to start a team I would take Doughty.
This is how i went too

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Playoff success tells the whole story. For Karlsson's Norris, Doughty has a Norris nomination that means a whole lot more because it was against stronger competition. Plus he has a Conn Smythe worthy run (I still feel he deserved it over Quick) and well, what does regular season success really even matter anyway?

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Playoff success tells the whole story. For Karlsson's Norris, Doughty has a Norris nomination that means a whole lot more because it was against stronger competition. Plus he has a Conn Smythe worthy run (I still feel he deserved it over Quick) and well, what does regular season success really even matter anyway?
Doughty is the one i agree, but the P.O. angle is a little unfair when you compare LA,s team vs Ottawa,s.Take EK out of the line up and we are a lottery team ,can the same be said of Doughty in LA


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Karlsson just absolutely dominated Giroux head to head last year... so yeah
So because Karlsson outplayed a player on my team last year I'm supposed to disregard what I saw from Pietrangelo over the course of the season and what I saw from Doughty in the playoffs?

Alright then

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10-25-2012, 05:53 PM
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Doughty
Pietrangelo
Karlsson

Pietrangelo and Doughty are real close though.

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10-25-2012, 06:04 PM
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Pietrangelo/Doughty
Karlsson

I have P and D has 1a and 1b and I think it will be like that for some time.

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10-25-2012, 06:08 PM
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Guy who won the trophy for best defenseman in the league > guy who won the cup as his teams best defenseman > guy who did neither of these things

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I'm kind of suprised the voting is so spread out and close.

IMO I think its Karlsson, Doughty, then Pietrangelo. All of them are really close together.

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10-25-2012, 06:13 PM
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Karlsson and Pietro will both have better careers than Doughty. Right now, Doughty is obviously going to get a lot of votes. Ask this is a couple years and I think it will be:

Pietro
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Doughty

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can't argue with the Norris and although people quickly point out Karlsson's defensive play (which isn't that bad) they neglect to mention the vastly superior offensive ability and his overall impact on the Sens.

It really depends for me how Doughty plays this season (hopefully there is one) to see if he can keep his playoff play up and prove it wasn't a hot streak.

Pietroangelo is well-rounded, safe, and a great defenseman and I am certain will be an amazing player for the foreseeable future. I think he's less of a risk than doughty and therefore will take him at #2

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Went with Drew>Alex>Erik but it wouldn't completely surprise me if Pietrangelo becomes the best defenseman down the road. Karlsson would have to score 120 points for me to overlook his defensive deficiencies and consider him the best.
What calculator helped you come up with that?

Karlsson doesn't even spend much time in the defensive zone, partly because he's so effective at getting it out. I don't know what you can call that reality, but I guess you could say it's defense.


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What calculator helped you come up with that?

Karlsson doesn't even spend much time in the defensive zone, partly because he's so effective at getting it out. I don't know what you can call that reality, but I guess you could say it's defense.

120 points? Common now, those are Bobby Orr type of stats.

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One is the youngest norris winner since potvin, one had a monstrous playoffs and leads his team to a cup, the other had a great year.

based on this year its a really hard decision

Doughty
Karlsson


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