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10-22-2012, 11:49 PM
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yep nowhere in the owners manual does it say they cant.
Geezuz, I get nervous when I go over my oil life while under warranty. i dare say that guy practically asked for a huge repair bill.

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10-22-2012, 11:56 PM
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thats what I figured, its sickening how bad our gas is, then again we dont pay $3-4 a litre either so pick your poison I guess.
Gas is more expensive here, but we have better roads, at least around Canberra.

There's far fewer stop signs and far more "give way" signs. I do see stop signs, but it's not like Montreal where you can't go 100 meters without a stop sign. Stop signs are rare here. "Give way" signs are a lot more logical in practice.

There are a lot of roundabouts as well, and thus fewer traffic lights.

There's apparently some serious use of traffic cameras by the police, and thus traffic seems to mostly go at the speed limit. If I go 90 in an 80 zone I risk hitting the guy in front of me, I think in Quebec if you drive 90 in an 80 zone you'll be hit from behind.

You can also "effectively" turn left on red (eqivalent to turning right on red in North America) because of how the entry lanes / turning lanes are often set up, see this picture where the drivers can basically turn left if they don't see any oncoming traffic:

These types of turning lanes are very frequent.

With that said, it's easier to design a rational transportation system when you don't have snow.


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10-23-2012, 12:06 AM
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Geezuz, I get nervous when I go over my oil life while under warranty. i dare say that guy practically asked for a huge repair bill.
oil life theres a scary system, what kind of car are you driving and how many clicks between intervals?

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10-23-2012, 12:22 AM
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oil life theres a scary system, what kind of car are you driving and how many clicks between intervals?
I have 3 vehicles

2011 Lexus ES-350
2011 Lexus HS250h hybrid
2008 Honda Accord EX-L v6

there's an 8K interval but I stretch it sometimes on the HS250h because I rack up a lot of km's on it, my wife drives the Accord and the second her 15 percent oil life warning comes on she's on me to get service.

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10-23-2012, 12:28 AM
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I have 3 vehicles

2011 Lexus ES-350
2011 Lexus HS250h hybrid
2008 Honda Accord EX-L v6

there's an 8K interval but I stretch it sometimes on the HS250h because I rack up a lot of km's on it, my wife drives the Accord and the second her 15 percent oil life warning comes on she's on me to get service.
8k's not bad I do mine about the same, some of them allow you to go 10000-15000 which is insane even with synthetic oil.

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10-23-2012, 12:38 AM
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8k's not bad I do mine about the same, some of them allow you to go 10000-15000 which is insane even with synthetic oil.
The Lexus oil changes are expensive compared to say the Honda, but my Lexus dealership treats me so well it's quite enjoyable. I can't tell you how incredible their customer service is. What do you drive and what is your experience with service?

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The Lexus oil changes are expensive compared to say the Honda, but my Lexus dealership treats me so well it's quite enjoyable. I can't tell you how incredible their customer service is. What do you drive and what is your experience with service?
I have an 05 330i - I have a hoist in my garage so do everything out of the house, I use to do the service advisor gig back in my early days so I know the game they play. You have no idea how many recommendations they make that arent recommendations from the manufacture. Im still in the business but now work in the warranty audit department for GM, which I hate but they pay quite well.

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Who uses higher octane numbers for their cars?
I do, but just the middle grade. Wilson's gives you back 3.5 cents/litre if you pay with cash/debit, which is most of the jump between "regular" and "plus". I find I actually milk slightly more kms out of a tank compared to using regular in my Accord.

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10-23-2012, 05:31 PM
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I have 3 vehicles

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2008 Honda Accord EX-L v6

there's an 8K interval but I stretch it sometimes on the HS250h because I rack up a lot of km's on it, my wife drives the Accord and the second her 15 percent oil life warning comes on she's on me to get service.

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10-23-2012, 06:54 PM
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I have an F150 with an oil life monitor, I am currently 9000 kms since my last oil change and my oil life monitor says that my oil life is still at 50%. My wifes Altima just gets regular 5000 km oil changes.

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10-23-2012, 07:49 PM
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I have an F150 with an oil life monitor, I am currently 9000 kms since my last oil change and my oil life monitor says that my oil life is still at 50%. My wifes Altima just gets regular 5000 km oil changes.
thats insane- I would change the oil soon if I were you. If you lease or flip your cars every 5yrs no biggie, if you plan on trying to get 10yrs out of it, good luck.

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thats insane- I would change the oil soon if I were you. If you lease or flip your cars every 5yrs no biggie, if you plan on trying to get 10yrs out of it, good luck.
Fords warranty only requires that I follow the oil change intervals suggested by the monitor. As a rule I won't go past 10,000 kms. So far so good and Ford says I can go longer, but I dont. The truck gets mostly highway use but city/town driving would definitely shorten the oil life.

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Gas is more expensive here, but we have better roads, at least around Canberra.
The best place to drive fast in Australia is in Northern Territory. The speed limit is technically 130kmh (there was no speed limit at a few years ago) but its barely policed or respected. In about 2000kms I saw a police car just once I think and it didn't seem to be there for handing out tickets.

On Stuart HWY traffic is very sparse (except the occasional road train) and the road goes completely straight most of the time. I drove a rental Toyota Aurion to some crazy speeds there (amazing car, really, and brand new. we don't have these here but its a bit like a Toyota Avalon (which we sometimes see)). Basically everyone is speeding out there but I guess overheating engines could be problematic during summer.

Gas is stupidly expensive in the red center tho, I saw well over 200cent per liter in some places (and the next gas stop are always like 150+km away so theres no choice but to empty wallets there).

Roads in South Australia&Victoria (outside Melbourne) are a bit crappy tho and people&police actually respect the 100kmh limit which is slightly annoying.

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10-24-2012, 05:49 PM
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Fords warranty only requires that I follow the oil change intervals suggested by the monitor. As a rule I won't go past 10,000 kms. So far so good and Ford says I can go longer, but I dont. The truck gets mostly highway use but city/town driving would definitely shorten the oil life.
but what happens after the warranty runs out? as long as you sell it your ok.

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to the ppl who change their oil depending on what their oil life % meter says...

loooooooooooooooooooooool


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to the ppl who change their oil depending on what their oil life % meter says...

loooooooooooooooooooooool

What's your suggestion?

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What's your suggestion?
set your own schedule, my car as an olm that counts down from 25000km- it goes down a lot quicker cause of how I drive but I write down my mileage on my board in the garage and try to do it every 8000k roughly- again like I said if you flip your cars every 5yrs no biggie, but if you plan on getting 10-15 yrs out of the engine- good luck.

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What's your suggestion?
dude, seriously?????

1. Use synthetic motor oil., like Mobil 1.
2. Change it every 5,000km (or 3,000km if you wanna be EXTRA careful, like me)

those oil life meters are absolutely useless.

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Pick a topic, any topic and surely theres an expert.

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dude, seriously?????

1. Use synthetic motor oil., like Mobil 1.
2. Change it every 5,000km (or 3,000km if you wanna be EXTRA careful, like me)

those oil life meters are absolutely useless.
What car do you drive ? Because 3k seem's dumb. Money burning. (Unless you're driving a rotary , or an ooold car.)

I do it a 4k and I drive one of the oil-unfriendly vehicule.

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What car do you drive ? Because 3k seem's dumb. Money burning. (Unless you're driving a rotary , or an ooold car.)

I do it a 4k and I drive one of the oil-unfriendly vehicule.
I wouldnt call it dumb- cheap insurance. I wouldnt waste the money on Mobil though that **** is good but way too overpriced, I use the bmw synthetic which is Castrol and better specs then what they sell in stores castrol comparable and way cheaper $6.50 a litre cant beat that. People who think because they use synthetic oil they can go 10,000km is dumb, cars with oil seperators can go longer but not many cars have that system.

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dude, seriously?????

1. Use synthetic motor oil., like Mobil 1.
2. Change it every 5,000km (or 3,000km if you wanna be EXTRA careful, like me)

those oil life meters are absolutely useless.
Oh , I thought you were lol'ing the fact that someone would change their oil on a schedule. Doh

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dude, seriously?????

1. Use synthetic motor oil., like Mobil 1.
2. Change it every 5,000km (or 3,000km if you wanna be EXTRA careful, like me)

those oil life meters are absolutely useless.
3000km is extreme exaggeration in a modern car using synthetic. 5000km is an exaggeration already, and totally not necessary. Am I an expert? Nope, but I'm someone who's actively researched this subject and has enough testimonies from friends in the auto mechanics business to know. I change mine whenever it's convenient beyond 8000km, usually somewhere around 10000, though I could go more and still be completely OK, even for longevity. There is some difference between vehicles, and obviously what I'm saying applies to newer cars using synthetic. A few links to help people in this thread:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop...-your-oil.html

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2010/09...frequency.html

Most useful of all: http://www.checkyournumber.org/

See, for my 2007 VW GTI it recommends 5000 miles, which is 8000 kms. VW reps themselves have told me I can comfortably go beyond that without any issue now, or in the future. For my gf's 2005 Civic the number is 10000. Obviously conditions will affect this, such as what type of driving you do normally, and in what weather. City driving in Winter here in Quebec should be treated differently than, say, Summer driving in the suburbs. I'll change more frequently in Winter, and definitely once right before the cold hits, and once as it starts getting warmer. I just know a bunch of you are gonna argue this no matter what proof I post. Please don't bother. Let those who want to benefit from the info do so, and feel free to continue spending your money and knowing the truth as you see fit.


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3000km is extreme exaggeration in a modern car using synthetic. 5000km is an exaggeration already, and totally not necessary. Am I an expert? Nope, but I'm someone who's actively researched this subject and has enough testimonies from friends in the auto mechanics business to know. I change mine whenever it's convenient beyond 8000km, usually somewhere around 10000, though I could go more and still be completely OK, even for longevity. There is some difference between vehicles, and obviously what I'm saying applies to newer cars using synthetic. A few links to help people in this thread:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop...-your-oil.html

and

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2010/09...frequency.html

Most useful of all: http://www.checkyournumber.org/

See, for my 2007 VW GTI it recommends 5000 miles, which is 8000 kms. VW reps themselves have told me I can comfortably go beyond that without any issue now, or in the future. For my gf's 2005 Civic the number is 10000. Obviously conditions will affect this, such as what type of driving you do normally, and in what weather. City driving in Winter here in Quebec should be treated differently than, say, Summer driving in the suburbs. I'll change more frequently in Winter, and definitely once right before the cold hits, and once as it starts getting warmer. I just know a bunch of you are gonna argue this no matter what proof I post. Please don't bother. Let those who want to benefit from the info do so, and feel free to continue spending your money and knowing the truth as you see fit.
I agree and disagree with you, nowhere on any synthetic oil bottle does it say you can go longer then 5000km- Speaking from a GM standpoint we're gonna have some big issues with this oil life system, and unfortunately for consumers most of the damage is gonna be done beyond the warranty period, Im paying out claims already for timing chain issues and clogged up cam solenoid sensors on cars with less then 60000km, anything over 8000km your playing with fire, if your a gambling man then go for it, but if oil companys believed in this system it would be all over their bottles.

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3000km is extreme exaggeration in a modern car using synthetic. 5000km is an exaggeration already, and totally not necessary. Am I an expert? Nope, but I'm someone who's actively researched this subject and has enough testimonies from friends in the auto mechanics business to know. I change mine whenever it's convenient beyond 8000km, usually somewhere around 10000, though I could go more and still be completely OK, even for longevity. There is some difference between vehicles, and obviously what I'm saying applies to newer cars using synthetic. A few links to help people in this thread:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop...-your-oil.html

and

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2010/09...frequency.html

Most useful of all: http://www.checkyournumber.org/

See, for my 2007 VW GTI it recommends 5000 miles, which is 8000 kms. VW reps themselves have told me I can comfortably go beyond that without any issue now, or in the future. For my gf's 2005 Civic the number is 10000. Obviously conditions will affect this, such as what type of driving you do normally, and in what weather. City driving in Winter here in Quebec should be treated differently than, say, Summer driving in the suburbs. I'll change more frequently in Winter, and definitely once right before the cold hits, and once as it starts getting warmer. I just know a bunch of you are gonna argue this no matter what proof I post. Please don't bother. Let those who want to benefit from the info do so, and feel free to continue spending your money and knowing the truth as you see fit.
QFT.

Like I said unless you're burning a oil-drinking car..

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