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RW Valeri Nichushkin - Chelyabinsk, KHL (2013, 10th overall, Dallas)

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09-25-2012, 08:47 PM
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It's a shame to hear he hasn't been doing that great. His performance against team USA in particular was amazing. He showed so much potential. Reminded me of Kuznetsov and Malkin.

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So what position does this guy project to? I've seen him listed as a center some places and a winger others, was hoping someone could clear that up.

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The only problem for him is Shalunov. He takes Valery's place in Belye Medvedi. I think the next year will be good for him. Kuzya moves to NA, Shalunov moves to Tractor, Valera moves to first line
I don't really think Kuznetsov will move to NHL next year. He have 2 year contract.

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I don't really think Kuznetsov will move to NHL next year. He have 2 year contract.
Well, that post was made before he had signed that extension.
This is an old thread that was bumped.

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09-29-2012, 11:46 AM
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He's off to a below-expected start, for himself based on his previous hype. He should be asserting himself as an undisputed leader in MHL, an average producer in VHL, or a rookie in KHL. He's none of those right now.

I remember reading that he came off a tough injury, that may be why. I hope he turns it around and we see him at WJC, but it's unlikely.
what? he isnt kuznetsov, of course. but for a seventeen years old kid hes doing pretty well in vhl

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2 goals and 8 sog in the last game. And totally 7+0, +5 in 13 VHL games (46 sog, 2 gwg, 2 ppg)

http://www.vhlru.ru/players/17688/#player

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For example, his teammate and blackhawks prospect Maxim Shalunov have 2+7, -8, 32 sog in 15 games.

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what? he isnt kuznetsov, of course. but for a seventeen years old kid hes doing pretty well in vhl
Of course, he scored a few right after I said it .

I think he improved. But from watching a recent game he has a lot of work to do, normal for a prospect. Shalunov looked better than him positionally and made smarter playes (as he should have consider age).

But when Nichushkin gets the puck, he owns the ice. It's quiet something to see actually


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10-26-2012, 12:48 PM
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Yeah, he scored two goals after a four game streak without any point.

I'm the only who thinks this guy will not be a first rounder?

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Yeah, he scored two goals after a four game streak without any point.

I'm the only who thinks this guy will not be a first rounder?
It's the VHL. Not junior.

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It's the VHL. Not junior.
I'm not talking about points. Russian factor, three year contract with Traktor and he looks very good but he's not a 'super star' or something like that at this point. NHL teams have nightmares with situations like this. Sure he's a very good prospect but there are other factors.

Perfect example: Kirill Petrov.

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I'm not talking about points. Russian factor, three year contract with Traktor and he looks very good but he's not a 'super star' or something like that at this point. NHL teams have nightmares with situations like this. Sure he's a very good prospect but there are other factors.

Perfect example: Kirill Petrov.
Well, I think Petrov's mom was the key determining factor for him. You really can't blame the kid for wanting to stay near home so he can spend time with his ailing mom.

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Well, I think Petrov's mom was the key determining factor for him. You really can't blame the kid for wanting to stay near home so he can spend time with his ailing mom.
I'm not blaming him, is just an example.

Kirill always had the russian factor behind him, first round talent who fell at the third because of this. He was considered the best european in their draft only behind Filatov.

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I'm not blaming him, is just an example.

Kirill always had the russian factor behind him, first round talent who fell at the third because of this. He was considered the best european in their draft only behind Filatov.
Yeah, I can agree with you there. There is definitely risk there. It's too bad because these is some sort of talent over there in Russia.

Nichushkin looks very impressive from the little I've seen. Would love for him to come over to North America so we can get a good look at him.

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I'm not talking about points. Russian factor, three year contract with Traktor and he looks very good but he's not a 'super star' or something like that at this point. NHL teams have nightmares with situations like this. Sure he's a very good prospect but there are other factors.

Perfect example: Kirill Petrov.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/junio...ts_gare_joyce/

Interesting take on the reverse of the reversal of the Russian factor. Kids coming to CHL are actually doing so to raise their stock with KHL teams... According to this scout lol... So now the Russian factor has an all new spin.

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I'm not talking about points. Russian factor, three year contract with Traktor and he looks very good but he's not a 'super star' or something like that at this point. .
But for some reasons you're decided that he's not a 'super star' or something like that.
Just looking at his stats? I think you underrate his potential. But who knows may be I'm extremely overrate him .
We'll see him on the SS soon. I hope he do his best


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Yeah, he scored two goals after a four game streak without any point.

I'm the only who thinks this guy will not be a first rounder?
well, id say its obvious hell not be a first rounder for a bunch of reasons reasons, not the last of which is that hes simply not that good. but hes a good prospect nevertheless

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/junio...ts_gare_joyce/

Interesting take on the reverse of the reversal of the Russian factor. Kids coming to CHL are actually doing so to raise their stock with KHL teams... According to this scout lol... So now the Russian factor has an all new spin.
I'm a die-hard fan of Russian Hockey so i'm not blaming VN because he is russian or the russian factor. I don't care the Russian Factor when you talk about a special player, but i don't think at this moment Valery is a player at the level of players like Tarasenko or Kuznetsov in 2009 or Grigo/Yakupov last year.

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I'm a die-hard fan of Russian Hockey so i'm not blaming VN because he is russian or the russian factor. I don't care the Russian Factor when you talk about a special player, but i don't think at this moment Valery is a player at the level of players like Tarasenko or Kuznetsov in 2009 or Grigo/Yakupov last year.
Kuzya and Tarasenko were basically KHL regulars before they were drafted.

Traktor does have some injury problems, so its possible for him to get a call up, unsure if he would cement himself as a regular.

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Kuzya and Tarasenko were basically KHL regulars before they were drafted.

Traktor does have some injury problems, so its possible for him to get a call up, unsure if he would cement himself as a regular.
There was also no VHL when Kuzya and Tarasenko played. I think they might have played in VHL for atleast some time if it existed. Kuznetsov was not a sensation in KHL right away either. A lot of people forget that he was very invisible in his first KHL year.

I think it's still fair to see Nichushkin as a valid potential future superstar who needs a lot of work, but has the tools.

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It looks like the previously linked YouTube channel has a bunch of his games archived in full.

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It looks like the previously linked YouTube channel has a bunch of his games archived in full.
Yes. This is the VHL official channel. There's a highlights and full games.

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I just saw this interview, 11/26/2009

- You are a true recordman. Tell us about your achievements.
- I've beaten the record for points scored in the Ural – Western Siberia region with 127, 87 goals and 40 assists.
- And who was the holder of the precedent record?
-It was set three years ago by Metallurg-92's Daniil Apalkov.
- They congratulated with you? Any special celebration?
- No, I've just reading something on some local newspaper. And all.
- How could you score so many goals?
- I don't know. I've tried playing my way. My team mates helped me too.
- How did you play in the precedent season?
- I've spent half year with Ak Bars Kazan, in that half season I scored 70 points.
- And which zone is harder to play in? Volga Region or Ural-Western Siberia?
- The Ural one is harder.
- Do you think you'll be able to beat your own record this year?
- I'll try. But this season the aim is to reach the national finals. I'll try to score as much as possible to help my team. My aim for this season is to become a better team player.
- Tell us how you arrived to hockey. Did your parents bring you?
- Yes, through some people they knew. They brought me to the Traktor school.
- And did you like hockey since the first day or did you have some troubles?
- I could skate well. Then all started to work and so I started liking it and then I've started playing seriously.
- Who was your first coach?
- Viktor Nikolaevich Vetshev. He left Traktor-95 only one year ago.
- Did you start playing as forward?
- Yes.
- And how old were you, when for the first time your sniper talent reached a noticeable status?
- I was 9 or 10, when I started playing in tournaments.
- And in those tournaments you were the top scorer?
- Sometimes I didn't break the top-three, but I always got some award. Almost in every tournament I got player of the match honors.
- And which prizes they usually presented?
- Cups. When I was a child usually caps or jerseys. Even sticks.
- Is this what drives you to score a lot?
- No, I don't think about that when I am on the ice. But there were games in which I was saying to myself “I have to score, score” and all I got is that I couldn't score at all.
- What's your record for most goals scored in one game?
- This year, eight. Earlier, I don't remember...more than ten I think.
- Which is the goal you remember the best?
- When I used to play for Ak Bars we participated to the Nicklas Lidstrom tournament, in Sweden. There I scored the game winning goal on the overtime, and we won the match and the tournament.
- How did you move to Ak Bars?
- They invited me. I came.
- Do you like how is it going with Traktor?
- Now all is good. I play with the team one year older than me. I'm satisfied about everything: the coach, the team mates...
- Will you play the whole season with Traktor-94?
- Yes.
- Is it more interesting to play with the 94 team?
- Yes, it's more intense.
- And for you the 95 is boring already?
- No, why? It's interesting there too. You get more chances, it's easier to score. With 94 it's more important to play as a team, playing individually is harder.
- Do you often try to win games alone?
- I used to do so. Now it depends on the game's moment. If I see a team mate open, I give him the puck, if he's not open then I try to do things by myself.
- Are you the team's tallest player?
- No, Alexei Filippov is taller than me. He's 190, I'm 189.
- Where does this come from? Parents?
- Maybe from my father, he's 190.
- Do you think you'll further grow?
- I think I'll grow taller, but the most important thing is to get some mass.
- Do you plan becoming a pro?
- I'm trying hard. It's my aim.
- Do you have a sport dream?
- To win the Gagarin Cup.
- With which team?
- Anyone.
- For example with Traktor?
- The important is to reach the first team within the next two years.
- Do you think about the NHL?
- No, not for now. I want to get something in Russia.
- Do you dream about the national team?
- Yes, I want to get this year already into the 94 national team. I'll try hard, maybe they'll call me.
- For example, you look the WC on the television and dream about being yourself a member of team Russia?
- Exactly. Any kid dreams about getting into the national team.
- Which are your favorite players?
- I like Alexander Ovechkin, his character and how he points the net. Sidney Crosby, he is an intelligent player, Jaromir Jagr, despite his age he's a great player. And I like many other players.
- Do you try to imitate them in something?
- Especially in shoot-outs. I often look them and then I try to replicate during the trainings.
- And who's the best shoot-out taker?
- Sidney Crosby, I like his technique a lot.
- Did you ever suffer from serious injuries?
- In Kazan I started getting some little trouble with knees. They almost decided to send me back to Chelyabinsk. Then I met Traktor's main doctor Vadim Chupa, he gave me some exercises to do and all was better.
- Have you been in many Russian cities?
- Yes, I've been to many of them. Usually during the season I spend more time traveling than at home.
- And have you been abroad too?
- In the Czech Republic, in Sweden. I liked a lot Sweden. It was a good trip, the tournament was great. It's beautiful down there. We went by bus to St. Petersburg, then to Finland and we got to Sweden after a further trip by boat, that lasted one night. That New year eve was really fun. The houses were beautiful and there wasn't trash on the streets.
- Aren't you scared not to be able to play into men hockey?
- Sometimes, but I try not to think about that. I train and give the hundred percent during games. And for now I never got any abatement.
- Do you have other activities outside of hockey? Any other passion?
- No, basically only hockey.
- Do you have a non-hockey dream?
- Not yet. I have to finish the school and get into the university.
- And what will you study there?
- I don't know, haven't thought yet. I absolutely need the highest education, hockey doesn't last forever.

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