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10-25-2012, 02:01 PM
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Really need a definition of "greatest" if the question is being asked. There's different eras to work from, size of the guy, length of time the man dominated, kind of respect accorded ie Larry Robinson...Yes Larry Robinson. May have fought in the toughest era of fighters in hockey history, didn't fight a lot, but when he did...

Laraque is certainly a viable candidate, but we're missing a few names...Schultz, Williams, Twist, Clark, Domi, Brashear (for a time)...Gordie Howe (And from those I've spoken with, they say he's the greatest fighter), Dave Semenko...Dave Brown was a mean hombre...So...the verdict is far from done or easily given.

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10-25-2012, 03:15 PM
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I think there are different categories in this general statement of "greatest." It can probably be broken down to best, toughest and most dominating.

Laraque is def in the running for most dominating. Along with Tony Twist they were both guys that dominated the majority of there foes. Especially Laraque, he would make quick work of most top AHL guys it was almost like watching old WWF saturday wrestling where the stars would wrestle these scrub no names and always win. He rarely lost and no one ever really dominated him except Jody Shelley and Sylvain Blouin. Brashear, Belak, Erskine and a few others have pulled edge victories over Laraque but nothing dominating. He has never been KO'd and usually averaged about 1 loss every year. Drop the gloves website has him at a Career Fight Card of 116-21-55. That is insane. 116 wins and 21 losses.

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10-25-2012, 03:29 PM
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Hell no Might be the best hugger/wrestler of all time though.

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10-25-2012, 03:45 PM
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Is this a joke??Laraque is not even top 20 imo and whoever said peluso,Don't ever mention his name when you talk about Probert!

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10-25-2012, 03:48 PM
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Was kordic or kocur the one who did steroids? or was it neither of them? i always forget.
Kordic had major drug issues that eventually killed him, perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

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Was kordic or kocur the one who did steroids? or was it neither of them? i always forget.
Are you thinking of Tony Twist?

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Guys I know you think Laraque was a bit of a Pu55y at times, I agree but I think we all know that when he TURNS IT ON he is the best fighter the game has ever seen

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10-25-2012, 07:05 PM
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A lot of top 10 lists online have Laraque on it. Probert is usually #1...Semenko, Schultz, Williams, Domi, and Kocur are usually on those lists too.

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10-25-2012, 07:23 PM
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Guys I know you think Laraque was a bit of a Pu55y at times, I agree but I think we all know that when he TURNS IT ON he is the best fighter the game has ever seen
Until he gets clocked then he bails!

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Guys I know you think Laraque was a bit of a Pu55y at times, I agree but I think we all know that when he TURNS IT ON he is the best fighter the game has ever seen
The problem was he rarely turned it on, he would rather wrestle than go toe to toe. According to dropyourgloves.com he never KO's anyone either, he had a few TKO's but he never knocked anyone out cold like most of the other guys mentioned

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10-25-2012, 07:41 PM
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I'd have to say: god no.

Nilan (his nickname is Knuckles, for god's sake)
ur joking right. ahead of Playfair and Dave brown ? both of whom toyed with him.

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10-25-2012, 07:48 PM
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The problem was he rarely turned it on, he would rather wrestle than go toe to toe. According to dropyourgloves.com he never KO's anyone either, he had a few TKO's but he never knocked anyone out cold like most of the other guys mentioned
not a fan of the guy but he did mangle Brant Myhres face pretty good.

Barry Dreger cut him in the AHL. Laraque that is


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as an oiler fan I can say he was not even the greatest fighter who ever played for the oilers

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Not even close.

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Guys I know you think Laraque was a bit of a Pu55y at times, I agree but I think we all know that when he TURNS IT ON he is the best fighter the game has ever seen
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10-26-2012, 12:28 AM
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I've always been partial to Tony Twist. He didn't play for long and he never had the rep of someone like Probert, but good god he could throw.

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10-26-2012, 12:47 AM
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Probert > Laraque

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10-26-2012, 07:33 AM
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TOP 3: Bob Probert, Behn Wilson and Dave Brown (not necessarily in that order)

Some HMs: Joey Kocur, Bob "The Battleship" Kelly, Tony Twist, Nick Fotiu, Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom etc.

Not that Laraque couldn't possibly beat them in a fight....

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TOP 3: Bob Probert, Behn Wilson and Dave Brown (not necessarily in that order)

Some HMs: Joey Kocur, Bob "The Battleship" Kelly, Tony Twist, Nick Fotiu, Clark Gillies, Bobby Nystrom etc.

Not that Laraque couldn't possibly beat them in a fight....
my top 3 as well. altho i believe that Fotiu was NY hype. have a few objections to ur HMs but it's a matter of preference.

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Heck, I might even consider Lindros to be a better fighter, lol.
You say that somewhat in jest but I would wager Lindros could take Laraque in a fight. I've never seen him lose one either, and he made Chara look like an outmatched scrawny teenager.

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You say that somewhat in jest but I would wager Lindros could take Laraque in a fight. I've never seen him lose one either, and he made Chara look like an outmatched scrawny teenager.
I only said it partially in jest, as I was thinking the same thing you were. He had the size, strength, toughness and determination to step up to anyone (and stood up to anyone) but if I really get into the fighting "skill" specifics, I'm not sure he still ranks all the way up near the top. Hard to judge someone who enjoyed such a size advantage over so many people, so it's good that we got to see him handle himself against the guy who basically defines the very upper limit of size in the NHL.

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Another name not mentioned yet is Jim McKenzie. He was also a great fighter.

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10-26-2012, 08:29 PM
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Another name not mentioned yet is Jim McKenzie. He was also a great fighter.
Oh Jesus, yes. Good call. Has a Gordie Howe hat track to his name, too, btw. Had a pretty convincing win against Chris Nilan (a Bruin at the time), AND Ken Hodge in the last minute of the last game of '91 (McKenzie's rookie year, mind you), if I'm not mistaken; a game in which Nilan, I believe set the record for penalty minutes in a game. I gotta go find that video...

edit: Found an interesting link to a TSN article/blog with Kerry Fraser that touches on the Nilan fight. Here's the link, and the excerpt:

"Each one of us has different heroes; sometimes they can result from our different perspective or role within the game. Big, tough guy Jim McKenzie who played 15 seasons in the NHL with nine different teams, and won a Stanley Cup with the New Jersey Devils, told me of an unlikely encounter he had the first time he met one of his heroes in an NHL game.

McKenzie was mesmerized by one of his heroes as he passed through the hall toward his dressing room when he saw Chris 'Knuckles' Nilan at the tool bench sharpening up one his sticks. So taken at seeing his hero, all McKenzie could do was stop and stare in wide-eyed amazement.

Nilan's response of, "What the eff are you staring at you big goof?" caused Jim considerable embarrassment since all of his Harford Whaler teammates were walking alongside.

Jim said that his teammates didn't want to talk with him before the game or even sit near him knowing the dire consequences of a riled up Chris Nilan that night. They had yet to see McKenzie drop his gloves and they feared this could lead to either a trip to the infirmary or quick ticket to the minors for their rookie teammate. They didn't want to get too close.

Jim said he was so angry and humiliated it only took one shift for the Whaler players to get their answer. The very first shift that he and Nilan played against one another McKenzie went right after his 'former' hero like a buzzsaw and absolutely destroyed Knuckles in the fight. While Chris Nilan might have a different version, there was no holding back from the rookie this night when lining up beside his hero. Jim McKenzie didn't forget his job."

LOL!

edit: Here's the Nilan fight!



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