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10-29-2012, 05:21 PM
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if grigo is the real deal why in the world would he be scratch? doesnt make any sense what so ever. wich doesnt mean i am saying is not true.
Because the Remparts don't want to trade one of their Euros and give up their unfair advantage.

I didn't want Girgo and think he's overrated by people who panic about him because of his stat line but the Remparts are just exploiting their $$$ and avoiding trading Sorensen or whoever to a rival. If there's anything to question Grigo about it's not their rotation but just how much of a good supporting cast he has.

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They rotate their 3 euros. Sorensen, Kucherov and Grigorenko will all be healhty scratch one game or another.
Stupid, but its probably a team first thing. There probably isn't anything to be worried about.

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10-29-2012, 05:48 PM
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He missed one year so a slow start was expected . Let's wait and see where he will be in points at the end of the season before comparing his stats to others top pick.
This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.

That said, he seems to have found his groove again. Hopefully he can sustain it and start to dominate.

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10-29-2012, 05:53 PM
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This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.

That said, he seems to have found his groove again. Hopefully he can sustain it and start to dominate.
Training camps and biosteel promo events are very different from competitive games.

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This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.

That said, he seems to have found his groove again. Hopefully he can sustain it and start to dominate.
To be fair, missing 7 months of actual game time and only playing in 6 + a bunch of camps isn't the same as playing 7 months of important, meaningful games.

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This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.

That said, he seems to have found his groove again. Hopefully he can sustain it and start to dominate.
Isn't he like third in the ohl scoring race, just shy of the lead? His start of season was just fine, we were just expecting too much point wise...

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This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.

That said, he seems to have found his groove again. Hopefully he can sustain it and start to dominate.
WOW, you do not miss that much full game hockey and not get rusty.

This is just a hilarious and uneducated memory.

I won't even begin to touch on subjects on muscle memory and such.

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I think the most important part with Gally is that when he is on the ice, you can tell he's on an other level then most players. The points might not be all there (maybe due to lesser line mates, whatever) but you can tell his game is superior then most. From what ive seen from clips at least.

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Biosteel camp is the real deal. You guys obviously have never been body checked by an orange cone.

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He has 21 points in 15 games, and he's tied for sixth in OHL scoring. He is producing at a clip 15% higher than what he was producing in his last full season, in spite of needing time to catch up mentally from being rusty.

Out of the 7 guys who have his production or more, three have played more games, and all the players are within the statistical margin of error of each other. He has 21 points in 15 games, the no. 1 guy has 24 points in 16 games, and is an over-ager who was selected in the 2011 entry draft.

There is nothing to worry about.

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He has 21 points in 15 games, and he's tied for sixth in OHL scoring. He is producing at a clip 15% higher than what he was producing in his last full season, in spite of needing time to catch up mentally from being rusty.

Out of the 7 guys who have his production or more, three have played more games, and all the players are within the statistical margin of error of each other. He has 21 points in 15 games, the no. 1 guy has 24 points in 16 games, and is an over-ager who was selected in the 2011 entry draft.

There is nothing to worry about.
Cousins is a 1993 born player so he's not an over-ager. Riley Brace and Francis Menard are the only overgers in the OHL top 20.

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Cousins is a 1993 born player so he's not an over-ager. Riley Brace and Francis Menard are the only overgers in the OHL top 20.
I didn't realize overager had a precise technical meaning. I just meant he's an older player.

Thank you for the correction.

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WOW, you do not miss that much full game hockey and not get rusty.

This is just a hilarious and uneducated memory.

I won't even begin to touch on subjects on muscle memory and such.
Gally trained his ass off all offseason. The rest of the league was drinking beer and partying for most of that time. Him struggling due to coming back from a knee injury is overstated plain and simple.

The big issue thus far IMO, is that Gally was having a tough time picking his spots, I think mostly due to some self imposed pressure to prove he's good and worthy of a top 3 pick. He was caught in between waiting for the play to come to him and trying to do to much for the opening part of the year. He seems to have found himself lately though.

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Don't even go there. Carrés rouges have tangled with matricule 728. She's a bad mother****er. She'd own any nhl enforcer. Habs should sign her.

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This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.
I don't know how missing almost an entire season could be a bad excuse. He played in 8 games last year plus a couple camps, why wouldn't he be expected to be rusty, seems only natural to suggest.

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Gally trained his ass off all offseason. The rest of the league was drinking beer and partying for most of that time. Him struggling due to coming back from a knee injury is overstated plain and simple.

The big issue thus far IMO, is that Gally was having a tough time picking his spots, I think mostly due to some self imposed pressure to prove he's good and worthy of a top 3 pick. He was caught in between waiting for the play to come to him and trying to do to much for the opening part of the year. He seems to have found himself lately though.
You can train all you want, nothing can replicate what it's like to play in an actual game. You lose your timing after being out that long. The Biosteel and Habs development camps don't have that real game pace. He played at the USA WJHC camp this summer, but then there's another long break before the OHL camp. He started off slow because of the year off.

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Gally trained his ass off all offseason. The rest of the league was drinking beer and partying for most of that time. Him struggling due to coming back from a knee injury is overstated plain and simple.
And you can see all of this partying from the comfort of your couch? Try sticking to actual facts in this discussion..........perhaps you will discover something called credibility.

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This is another bad excuse. He was back for the playoffs, had a full offseason, killed the combine, played at the biosteel camp, and had training camp with the sting, as well as rookie camp with the habs.

He got off to a slow start. Deal with it.

That said, he seems to have found his groove again. Hopefully he can sustain it and start to dominate.
I agree that is a bad excuse.
However, it's not a real slow start. He's not bad at all, he's just not good enough as few people have expected.

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I agree that is a bad excuse.
However, it's not a real slow start. He's not bad at all, he's just not good enough as few people have expected.
I dont think he need to an excuse anyways... Its not like he wasnt giving an effort... But missing a freaking full year of top level hockey isnt something you get back instantly he is no lemieux.. When lapointe said he needed to recover his timing he was damn right... Its all about putting the puzzle back together again... He can do it but hockey evolves so its not the same identical process time is required. And i am not talking about a full year cause his talent level is off the chart. About 20-40 games he should be in his prime again (with consistency too) btw if there is any positive about the lockout (if we resume the season) is that galchenyuk might be able to find a way into the team cause he will be ready physically and mentally llaying with the elite will be easier for him offensively that his. IMHO.

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Gally trained his ass off all offseason. The rest of the league was drinking beer and partying for most of that time. Him struggling due to coming back from a knee injury is overstated plain and simple.

The big issue thus far IMO, is that Gally was having a tough time picking his spots, I think mostly due to some self imposed pressure to prove he's good and worthy of a top 3 pick. He was caught in between waiting for the play to come to him and trying to do to much for the opening part of the year. He seems to have found himself lately though.
You know that's pretty much what it means to be rusty right? Timing is off, decision making isn't as good, and trying to do too much because you're eager to get back to where you were.
Not sure what you're arguing about really. The kid missed a full season, he came into the season in good physical condition, but still had to get rid of the ''no playing'' rust. Happens to every single player that goes through such long injuries.
It's also just 15 games in, and so far he's been pretty good. Are you judging him on the first 4-5 games he played?
He got rid of his rust quite fast imo.

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Gally trained his ass off all offseason. The rest of the league was drinking beer and partying for most of that time. Him struggling due to coming back from a knee injury is overstated plain and simple.

The big issue thus far IMO, is that Gally was having a tough time picking his spots, I think mostly due to some self imposed pressure to prove he's good and worthy of a top 3 pick. He was caught in between waiting for the play to come to him and trying to do to much for the opening part of the year. He seems to have found himself lately though.
"Training your ass off" doesn't exactly get you used to the pace of a competitive game now does it? In fact waiting for the play to come to you and trying to do too much is usually a pretty good indicator of inexperience or rust - you know, like it's as if he only played 8 competitive games in the past year before this season...

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I think people are getting too caught up in his stats which is silly because his numbers are fine especially considering that he doesn't have skilled players to play with. The most important thing that he is displaying is an offensive skillset that will be effective at the pro level. There are plenty of players who put up great numbers in junior but their individual skillsets aren't condusive to success at the next level. People here like to think of themselves as scouts but contradict that belief by putting far too much emphasis on point totals. Thus far he has absolutely justified his draft position with his performance and he will only get better provided he stays healthy. He has been hands down better than Bozon(who has been impressive) yet Bozon has the more impressive stats........

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Pretty sad of those claiming the rust excuse. Obviously people who didn't grow up playing a sport for their entire lives and don't understand that hes been back playing for over 6 months. He was a little rusty in last years playoffs, but now? Come on. You're just making our fan base look bad.

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