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10-29-2012, 11:56 AM
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Seems like both Kulemin and Grabovski have warmed up.

Hopefully they keep producing well.

What are the stats from the other oversea players, like MacArthur and Franson?
Brynas IF Gavle
Franson: 1G, 0A.

MacArthur has yet to play a game for Crimmitschau ETC.

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10-29-2012, 06:03 PM
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huh?

You speak in tongues constantly.
The meaning of that post was perfectly clear.

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10-29-2012, 07:00 PM
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You can't scream about a lack of sample size when we have years and years of KHL highlights to base our opinions on. From what I've seen the defending/goaltending in the KHL is inferior to NHL quality defending/goaltending. Are you going to sit there and deny that?

You also didn't answer either of my original questions.
You have to take into account the wide open style of the international game. Of course the nhl is tighter defensively but it's more about the ice surface and style than personnel. Ever wonder why very few north american goalies go overseas during a lockout. Because they would get lit up. It's a different style of game. Different angles, more passing, less shooting from everywhere. It's why a lot of great european goalies come to north america and suck

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10-29-2012, 07:22 PM
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Fancy that, goals result from defensive breakdowns. You think you're pointing out something I don't know? If you didn't try so hard to go for a killshot put-down all the time you may pull an interesting thought out of your head once in a blue moon.

If you can't notice the difference in the quality of defending/goaltending when you compare NHL footage to KHL footage then I don't know what else to say.

I'll forward you the same statement: "...defending/goaltending in the KHL is inferior to NHL quality defending/goaltending. Are you going to sit there and deny that?"
How could I possibly argue with your undeniable expertise:

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You can't scream about a lack of sample size when we have years and years of KHL highlights to base our opinions on. From what I've seen the defending/goaltending in the KHL is inferior to NHL quality defending/goaltending.
Key words in bold, but in case you don't grasp the absurdity of what you said here it is:

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Are you going to sit there and deny that?

You also didn't answer either of my original questions.
I can't confirm or deny that defense and goaltending in the KHL sucks compared to the NHL. To do that you'd have to be a regular follower of both leagues. What I do know is that bigger ice favours offense, and even still a lot of goalies in the KHL put up respectable (and even highly impressive) save percentages...which would be even more impressive if the defense really did suck. We can also assume that, like the NHL, the KHL has a certain number of less talented teams or individual players that get burned for highlight reel material. And the very nature of highlights means you'll see even great defensemen and goalies looking foolish, as well as average or below average players scoring spectacular goals. Hey...just like they do in the NHL.

Look at Chara playing over there in the KHL. He's doing terribly. Is he not the NHL's current most dominant defenseman? Does he suddenly suck, or is the KHLs offense just too overwhelmingly awesome for him? Neither, he's playing on a poor team and the larger rink have made him ineffective.

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10-29-2012, 08:19 PM
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10-31-2012, 09:00 AM
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Looked like Chara shut down Malkin yesterday, but Metallurg still won the game.

Chara adds a goal in loss.

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10-31-2012, 02:53 PM
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Kulemin had an assist today in a 5 - 2 victory.

Grabovski had a goal in an embarrassing 5 - 3 loss where they were up 3 - 0.

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10-31-2012, 05:16 PM
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Grabovski has 8 points in 12 games with CKSA Moscow.

Kulemin has 5 points in 11 games with Metallurg.

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10-31-2012, 08:42 PM
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Red Wings duo tearing it up ...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408534

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A number of NHL teams showed interest in the 26-year-old Brunner over the summer after he was named Swiss league MVP last season. Highly skilled and lightning fast -- "He ends up getting a lot of breakaways," said Shedden -- he signed with the Red Wings on July 1 and stayed at Zetterberg's house when he visited Detroit.

"In talking to Zetterberg, he likes him and thinks he should be able to play (in the NHL)," said Shedden.

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11-01-2012, 09:07 AM
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Yakupov:

Games: 13
Goals: 10
Points: 14

Looks like Oilers have landed a goal scorer.

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11-01-2012, 08:32 PM
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Yakupov:

Games: 13
Goals: 10
Points: 14

Looks like Oilers have landed a goal scorer.
He may remind you of a couple players of the past if his playstyle translates to the NHL. Very exciting player.



Grapes is going to hate this kid.

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11-01-2012, 08:53 PM
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He may remind you of a couple players of the past
How about the present? He looks like he has Kessel's wrister.

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Anyone else disappointed Gunnarsson hasn't signed with an SEL team yet?

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11-01-2012, 09:13 PM
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Anyone else disappointed Gunnarsson hasn't signed with an SEL team yet?
Why should we be disappointed? Players don't have to play competitive hockey to stay in shape.

He's probably waiting for the full-season lockout before making any type of overseas commitment.

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11-01-2012, 11:51 PM
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He may remind you of a couple players of the past if his playstyle translates to the NHL. Very exciting player.



Grapes is going to hate this kid.
He's very talented, great shot, but celebrating like he did for an empty net goal is pretty classless.

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11-02-2012, 03:44 PM
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=2364

Scoring leaders overseas.

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11-02-2012, 03:50 PM
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Scoring leaders overseas.
I thought Yakupov had 14 points. He's not on that list?

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11-02-2012, 03:52 PM
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I thought Yakupov had 14 points. He's not on that list?
Not an nhl player

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11-02-2012, 04:44 PM
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Tarasenko isn't too. It's just old stats. Now Malkin is 28 after 18, Kovy is 26 after 16, Tarasenko is 19 after 13, Datsyuk is 19 after 15, Yakupov is 14 after 13 and Ovi is still 14 after 14. I mean' it's KHL.

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11-02-2012, 05:23 PM
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Scoring leaders overseas.
Two former Leafs on the list. Three if you include Seguin.

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11-02-2012, 05:24 PM
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Grabovski 2A.

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11-04-2012, 06:19 AM
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Hehe, nice poll I saw: "Why does Avtomobilist sign Lupul? - He has grandma in E-burg so agrees to play for free"... Avtomoblist is one one of the poorest team in KHL so it looks like the truth.

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obviously skilled nhl russians are going to play good over there... nobody hits anybody... bunch of soft figure skaters. I saw a pre-season khl game in eastern Finland a couple months ago and it was sooo soft.. only 1 hit the hole game and the refs were terrible.

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obviously skilled nhl russians are going to play good over there... nobody hits anybody... bunch of soft figure skaters. I saw a pre-season khl game in eastern Finland a couple months ago and it was sooo soft.. only 1 hit the hole game and the refs were terrible.
hope so, we don't need injuries

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obviously skilled nhl russians are going to play good over there... nobody hits anybody... bunch of soft figure skaters. I saw a pre-season khl game in eastern Finland a couple months ago and it was sooo soft.. only 1 hit the hole game and the refs were terrible.
With the bigger ice you better be able to skate, so big slow Neanderthal NHL goons stay away.

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