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11-01-2012, 06:05 PM
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NHL Attendances Following a Work Stoppage

NHL Attendances Following a Work Stoppage
http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-atte...work-stoppage/

Well, I guess the owners shouldn't worry about the fans not coming back...

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11-01-2012, 06:08 PM
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Hockey fans, crave hockey...that being said, this time the fans seem a little more PO'd.....

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We are enablers.

Would Gary use the lockout as his opening salvo, if he wasn't so cocksure that the fans would flock back?

I don't think so.

We're being punished for being such "great fans".

We need to send Gary a message.

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11-01-2012, 10:44 PM
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sure in Canada(minus Ottawa) and NY,CHI,BOS, Philly, Pits & Minny they will be back however lets see how

COLUMBUS, DALLAS, TAMPA, FLORIDA and these kind of teams do

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11-01-2012, 11:47 PM
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sure in Canada(minus Ottawa) and NY,CHI,BOS, Philly, Pits & Minny they will be back however lets see how

COLUMBUS, DALLAS, TAMPA, FLORIDA and these kind of teams do
Bingo - the teams that have support will retain support. Those teams that suffer in attendance will continue to suffer...just like before the lockout.

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11-02-2012, 12:38 AM
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Problem is that there is no substitute for NHL hockey. Hockey fans like the sport because it is fast paced with lots of action.

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11-02-2012, 01:04 AM
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Dallas did alright out of the last lockout because they were a consistent playoff team and were only five years removed from a Stanley Cup. It's going to take a long time for the fans to come back this time, though.

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11-02-2012, 01:07 AM
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You can look at it two ways:

1) Hockey fans are suffering from battered wife's syndrome, always forgiving and coming back no matter how much they are abused.

2) Hockey fans understand it's just business and don't get too emotional about CBA negotiations and lockouts. They do something else while NHL and NHLPA fight and then when hockey is back, they get back to watching hockey.

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11-02-2012, 01:32 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure if hockey fans will be so forgiving this time around if the NHL does the unthinkable and cancel this season.

The 1994-95 lockout was bad but it didn't cancel the whole season so a season was played along with the playoffs and the Stanley Cup was awarded.

The 2004-05 lockout was an ideological war. It was for the parity of 30 teams, cost certainty, linkage in league revenue, and the survival of small market teams (Calgary, Edmonton,etc). Most fans understood why the lockout needed to happen and most were on the owners side. After the lockout, the league reinvented itself extensively by bringing in new rule changes such as shootouts and the elimination of two-line passes. In addition, Crosby and Ovechkin helped create a buzz of this "new NHL" coming out of the post-lockout era. The league did a wonderful job marketing the game, and connecting the fans with the game and the players. What was the result? NHL revenue growing in the last seven years and seven different Stanley Cup Winners since the lockout.

So what does the NHL have to offer or use as a marketing ploy to bring fans back if they cancel the 2012-13 season? And keep in mind, this lockout isn't about salary cap vs no salary cap, this is about dividing 3.3 billion dollars of revenue between the owenrs and the players and ifthis nature of lockout destroys this season, fans won't be so forgiving like last time.

I believe if god forbid, they cancel this season, the reprucssions we will see will be similar to what we see in baseball after the 1994 strike. Fans were angry and stayed away. It took almost a generation for the MLB to recover from that strike.

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Yeah, I can't see attendance being a problem here in Canada or in the bigger hockey cities in the U.S. (Boston, Rangers, Minnesota, Philly, Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh and possibly Los Angeles. It's the other U.S. cities that may not have their fans come back in droves when this lockout ends.

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I will tell you this, I'm certainly not going to be going to any games this year if theres a season. And if there isn't, I won't be going to games next season. The only way I break this is if we make it to the SCF again, then I'd have to go. I'm as big of a hockey fan as any, so if this is my scalded attitude I have to think there are others who are with me on this even in traditional hockey markets. I'd expect some sort of dip in revenues. The thing is though, the NHL will make the same. It just means now that the scalpers may have to drop their ticket prices to sell out haha.

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The fans should not be taken for granted, again, 7-8 yrs later...

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I don't think you're going to see the numbers you saw last time. There's a considerable amount of fan apathy this time around.

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Maybe it's different because I don't live in a team city but I can't understand people flocking to the games, especially if they do so whenever this lockout ends. Watching on tv, yes, I honestly doubt there's a poster on this board who will really stop watching hockey. But given the price of tickets, food, beer, etc and most importantly the disrespect the NHL has and continues to show its fans, why would you hand over your cash so easily at the arenas?

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We'll see. NHL obviously expects fans to bounce right back, and truth be told I think we'll see a bounceback, too. Traditional markets will almost assuredly see fans return immediately, and maybe smaller southern markets may take a bit of time for more casuals to realize that hockey's back and return, but I think any potential dip in attendance will unfortunately be very short-lived.

And thanks to that, the NHL won't fear fan backlash for the next lockout in 6-10 years....

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Well, I see teams like Columbus, Dallas, Anaheim, Florida, Phoenix, Carolina, Colorado, St. Louis and Nashville all take a hit in attendance after the lock-out, but the other markets will do well, whether we have a shortened season or the entire 2012-13 season is wiped out completely.

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Ok... I'll be the guilty one. If the season starts soon... I'll still be going to the same two Stars games I planned to attend (it's about 3 hours away - closest team to me)... And, I'll be buying the tv package so I can watch all the flyers games...

I've been dying all summer, waiting for the season to start...


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I guess this is three times though. So maybe we were fooled again?

I think there will be obvious and measurable repercussions after this lockout. The main question is how quickly will fans return - in some places, it's more like "will they ever return?"

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I guess this is three times though. So maybe we were fooled again?

I think there will be obvious and measurable repercussions after this lockout. The main question is how quickly will fans return - in some places, it's more like "will they ever return?"
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We are enablers.

Would Gary use the lockout as his opening salvo, if he wasn't so cocksure that the fans would flock back?

I don't think so.

We're being punished for being such "great fans".

We need to send Gary a message.
thats right on if after the last lock out a 20% drop happenned league wide he would be a lot less cocky this time around

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I would love if there were someway of organizing a boycott of the first games. All 30 arenas are empty when they play. That would send one ****ing big message to the players.

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MLB attendances in 1995 were 20% down from 94, when the 2nd half of that season was lost due to the strike. Why can't we do the same when the NHL comes back on? We need to ask those baseball fans for advice because clearly, we've shown to be fine with being glutton for punishment every few years and the NHL/PA have been taking advantage of that.

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NHL fans are battered wives. They will never stand up for themselves because they lack the willpower to do so. They will take whatever use and abuse their "loved" one gives them. All is forgiven as soon as they get taken to their favorite restaurant.

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It's not about less revenue but the fact that future revenue is lost and growth stunted.

Also a lot of people will boycott merch like me so there will be less revenue.

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MLB attendances in 1995 were 20% down from 94, when the 2nd half of that season was lost due to the strike. Why can't we do the same when the NHL comes back on? We need to ask those baseball fans for advice because clearly, we've shown to be fine with being glutton for punishment every few years and the NHL/PA have been taking advantage of that.

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