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10-26-2012, 09:43 AM
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pretty disappointed
my whole year... i was looking forward to hockey and 24/7
and that is taken away from me

hope it happens in the future

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I think I've watched most of the outdoor games, and they are for the most part crap.

It is a marketing spectacle.

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I think I've watched most of the outdoor games, and they are for the most part crap.

It is a marketing spectacle.
Isn't the whole sport a marketing spectacle?

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Isn't the whole sport a marketing spectacle?
Yes, but sometimes there is good hockey played.

Kind of like comparing a NBA Championship game to the Harlem Globetrotters.

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The outdoor game is a joke, but the 24/7 show is very well done. I'd love to be able to watch it with the leafs. I hope something is done soon.

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I think I've watched most of the outdoor games, and they are for the most part crap.
It is a marketing spectacle.
the 24/7 is what you enjoy most

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10-26-2012, 01:40 PM
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I know they start relatively early. I dunno, I just want my dose of Grabo-crazy and Awkward Phil
They dont start filming until a few weeks before the WC.

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10-27-2012, 07:03 AM
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They dont start filming until a few weeks before the WC.
i live in windsor .....heard its already all but cancelled ,,,,,,next week some of the rooms in the area become available for other new years events .....lots of people got screwed in this ......all for a regional sport that has no bussiness going on strike ....the NHL could lose 6 teams and a 120 players after this debacle ,not including the many small bussiness owners who rely on hockey as part of their winter sports menu
80 million dollars in the ann arbor area alone in lost revenue
been a hockey fan all my life .........this lockout could the harshest on both sides .....the players have lost alot of respect ,a blue collar sport ,but not folowing blue collar rules
im a pipefitter .......we go on strike .we dont fly to europe to go work while our union brothers take it up the AZZ
its a joke ,that may be the end of the current nhl .

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NHL Winter Classic Info

I was wondering if their is a lockout for the entire season does the Winter Classic get moved to next season or no? What happens to the people with tickets if it does get moved to next season can they still redeem and buy the tickets they won the rights to or will their be another draw for the tickets and the process will start again? If it has been discussed already i am sorry but i could not find much on it. any info would be helpful..

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I would imagine, that if and when they cancel the 2013 Winter Classic, information will be available as to whether or not they plan to simply go with the same Detroit-Toronto plans in 2014. So, it's probably best to wait and see.

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10-27-2012, 03:57 PM
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I would imagine, that if and when they cancel the 2013 Winter Classic, information will be available as to whether or not they plan to simply go with the same Detroit-Toronto plans in 2014. So, it's probably best to wait and see.
I would be surprised if Toronto & Detroit weren't selected for the 2014 Winter Classic. In my opinion it would only make sense to go with them again because it's easier to re-schedule that with the same two teams compared to the All Star Game when that gets cancelled. Multiple teams bid for the All Star Game and it's harder to just give the Blue Jackets the next available one.

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10-29-2012, 04:51 PM
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The Winter Classic will be formally cancelled on Friday, not to take a leverage point away from the NHLPA but rather due to dates built into the contract with the Univerity of Michigan for the stadium. Nov. 3rd is the last date to cancel without losing more than the $100K deposit. When the NHL signed the contract, they built in a work stoppage clause. The league also split the rental fee for the stadium into five payments, the next one is due on Friday. Want to bet if that ever takes place?

It took me a LONG time and a lot of effort to secure tickets to the WC and ALL of the additional games, if it gets cancelled this week I will not be a happy person to be around this weekend - nor will my friend from California who purchased flights months ago.

However the University has stated if the game is cancelled, they would be willing to host it in 2014. I just don't think I will be watching NHL hockey anymore at that point.

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10-29-2012, 05:07 PM
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They spend more time planning cancellations than they do negotiating.

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Feel for those who were looking to attend.

I assume everyone knew there was a chance that the game wouldn't be played and didn't commit to anything that was non-refundable.

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I seem to recall reading somewhere that the $15/ticket service fee is non-refundable - anybody know if that's true? for those that ordered 4 tickets, that's $60 they may not see again...

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The Winter Classic will be formally cancelled on Friday, not to take a leverage point away from the NHLPA but rather due to dates built into the contract with the Univerity of Michigan for the stadium. Nov. 3rd is the last date to cancel without losing more than the $100K deposit. When the NHL signed the contract, they built in a work stoppage clause. The league also split the rental fee for the stadium into five payments, the next one is due on Friday. Want to bet if that ever takes place?

It took me a LONG time and a lot of effort to secure tickets to the WC and ALL of the additional games, if it gets cancelled this week I will not be a happy person to be around this weekend - nor will my friend from California who purchased flights months ago.

However the University has stated if the game is cancelled, they would be willing to host it in 2014. I just don't think I will be watching NHL hockey anymore at that point.
Yes, the NHL is supposed to fork over another $250,000.00 on that date as part of the deal. This is why it will be cancelled by Friday. Bettman sucks the big one for sure

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11-02-2012, 11:11 AM
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Here's where it gets tricky though - are they actually going to "cancel" the game or just "postpone" it one year? That makes a HUGE difference if you read the refund policy.

If an Event is cancelled, Primary ticket purchaser is entitled to a ticket refund subject to the following terms and conditions...Please note refunds will not be issued for delay or postponement.

If the game is indeed scrapped for this year, my money is on the NHL having a chat with UofM and shifting the events to 2014. This way they get to sit on all the revenue already generated by ticket sales and simply mail out the tickets next winter.

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11-02-2012, 01:39 PM
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Here's where it gets tricky though - are they actually going to "cancel" the game or just "postpone" it one year? That makes a HUGE difference if you read the refund policy.

If an Event is cancelled, Primary ticket purchaser is entitled to a ticket refund subject to the following terms and conditions...Please note refunds will not be issued for delay or postponement.

If the game is indeed scrapped for this year, my money is on the NHL having a chat with UofM and shifting the events to 2014. This way they get to sit on all the revenue already generated by ticket sales and simply mail out the tickets next winter.
Pretty sure they're just referring to moving the game to later in the day than originally scheduled due to weather, or even the next day if necessary. You can't just postpone something for a whole year, that's just crazy. The NHL would never do that to their fans - they love us all way too much.

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Pretty sure they're just referring to moving the game to later in the day than originally scheduled due to weather, or even the next day if necessary. You can't just postpone something for a whole year, that's just crazy. The NHL would never do that to their fans - they love us all way too much.
Events are postponed all the time, with makeup dates being very far into the future. This isn't exclusive to the NHL.

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However, you can't POSTPONE a game from one season and move it to the next season. By that, you'd need to have Toronto and Detroit play a game next season where the points given out would be retroactive to this season.

They'll cancel it - you can't legitimately postpone it because it is a regular season game from 2012-2013, not 2013-2014.

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However, you can't POSTPONE a game from one season and move it to the next season. By that, you'd need to have Toronto and Detroit play a game next season where the points given out would be retroactive to this season.

They'll cancel it - you can't legitimately postpone it because it is a regular season game from 2012-2013, not 2013-2014.
The winner of that game then will be the president's trophy winner of the 2012-2013 season if the season is cancelled

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408664

cancelled...pathetic league is pathetic.

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I feel bad for you guys for this alone. The leafs should have been in a winter classic years ago and you finally got your turn and now it's been taken away. I'm sure you'll have it next year though.

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https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/statu...37626688397313

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Sounds like fans will be given option of refund on Winter Classic tickets or keep them for January 1,2014.

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However, you can't POSTPONE a game from one season and move it to the next season. By that, you'd need to have Toronto and Detroit play a game next season where the points given out would be retroactive to this season.

They'll cancel it - you can't legitimately postpone it because it is a regular season game from 2012-2013, not 2013-2014.
That's a ridiculous argument. What's being postponed is the event or the "Winter Classic game" for the Red Wings and Leafs; They are not postponing "Game #XX of the 2012-2013 NHL Season".

The Winter Classic can easily be postponed until the 2013-2014 season.

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