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11-02-2012, 02:44 PM
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I personally like when people list stats but leave out certain years to presumably make their argument. Bringing up this past year's is understandable but why talk about his save percentages in 2009/2010 without bringing up 2010/2011 when (big surprise) he was one of the top in save percentages?
It's called cherry picking.

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18th in a 30 league team is not exactly blowing people away.
The worst year of his career, followed up by a top 3 finish and Vezina nomination the very next season.

Save percentage is the standard measure for goalies.

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Good luck with Dubnyk then. He's probably the worst starter in the NHL and that's not hyperbole.
good lord I am sick of the dubnyk hate. Yes, he hasn't proven a whole lot, but to say he is the worst starter in the league is unfair.
Among goalies with a lower sv%: Fleury, Varlamov, Brodeur, Pavelec, Crawford, Neuvirth, Mason and of course every Kings fan's solution to our problems: Bernier.

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So one poster tells me to go read the thread, and then the next posts this? C'mon guys, get it together.
Hey man, I never tell anyone to read the thread. I fully support coming into an argument blind.

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good lord I am sick of the dubnyk hate. Yes, he hasn't proven a whole lot, but to say he is the worst starter in the league is unfair.
Among goalies with a lower sv%: Fleury, Varlamov, Brodeur, Pavelec, Crawford, Neuvirth, Mason and of course every Kings fan's solution to our problems: Bernier.
Yeah the difference is that most of those goalies play 60+ games a year.

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11-02-2012, 03:01 PM
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Yeah the difference is that most of those goalies play 60+ games a year.
is 47 games really that light of a load? This is the Oilers, not a good defensive team.

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11-02-2012, 03:02 PM
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good lord I am sick of the dubnyk hate. Yes, he hasn't proven a whole lot, but to say he is the worst starter in the league is unfair.
Among goalies with a lower sv%: Fleury, Varlamov, Brodeur, Pavelec, Crawford, Neuvirth, Mason and of course every Kings fan's solution to our problems: Bernier.
I don't think he's the worst but people are going to be skeptical with Dubnyk because his highest save percentage ever in both the AHL and NHL is .916. Most of the goalies you raise have had at least a couple of elite years to mix in with their bad years ie they've shown that they can play at an elite level. They also play more games for the most part.

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Taylor Hall and Oscar Klefbom for Ruslan Fedotenko and Michael Leighton. Seems fair to me.
sure has the WOW factor

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Yeah the difference is that most of those goalies play 60+ games a year.
Schiender is no good, under 40 games played

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Dubnyk may not be all that good (agree with Nucks fans here) but that doesn't mean Edmonton should trade one of the big-4 for Luongo.

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11-02-2012, 03:11 PM
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Moving away from Luongo

I think (hope) a player coming in will be a top 4 defenseman or big forward
Hopefully Yandle or Bouwmeester for D
Or someone like Clowe for forward

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Moving away from Luongo

I think (hope) a player coming in will be a top 4 defenseman or big forward
Hopefully Yandle or Bouwmeester for D
Or someone like Clowe for forward
Putting yourself in Phoenix's shoes, what would you ask for if you were trading Yandle.

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11-02-2012, 03:23 PM
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Wow is the word i would use reading some of these proposals. Not much hope of any of them ever happening.

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11-02-2012, 03:33 PM
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Putting yourself in Phoenix's shoes, what would you ask for if you were trading Yandle.
Considering the D prospects they have:
Hemsky- playing making winger
Whitney- defense veterman to ease prospects into league

After that it depends on need. Some potential combinations of add ins

Gagner if they need a center
MPS if they want a good wing prospect
Picks (1st/2nd)
Pitlick for a winger with size

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11-02-2012, 03:34 PM
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OEL straight up for Eberle?

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11-02-2012, 03:35 PM
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Putting yourself in Phoenix's shoes, what would you ask for if you were trading Yandle.
Paajarvi + Petry
Paajarvi would round out the LW side and Petry would replace Yandle on D.

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Not much of a wow factor unless one of the big 4 are involved.

my guess is Eberle for a big D-man

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Paajarvi + Petry
Paajarvi would round out the LW side and Petry would replace Yandle on D.
That wouldnt be enough.

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Not much of a wow factor unless one of the big 4 are involved.

my guess is Eberle for a big D-man
Sigh. Please read the article or better still listen to the radio interview.

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11-02-2012, 03:39 PM
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Considering the D prospects they have:
Hemsky- playing making winger
Whitney- defense veterman to ease prospects into league

After that it depends on need. Some potential combinations of add ins

Gagner if they need a center
MPS if they want a good wing prospect
Picks (1st/2nd)
Pitlick for a winger with size
Phoenix is not adding over-priced players like Hemsky and Whitney. Doesn't take a rocket scientest to figure that out.

Yandle led the entire NHL in scoring 2 years ago. He is an elite PMD. Maybe someday Schultz can do that or one of the young four can perform a similar feat at forward. I guess what I'm saying is stop thinking that Gagner, MPS, Pitlick and the rest of your average, under-performing players are anywhere near what would make this happen.

Yandle would cost one of the big 4. If Oil fans are unwilling to give up one of their precious, then it's time to realize you are not getting a number one dman via a trade.

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Paajarvi + Petry
Paajarvi would round out the LW side and Petry would replace Yandle on D.
I don't see how that deal makes Phoenix better. They give up one of the best defencemen in the league and get back Paajarvi who has struggled and Petry who is nowhere close to the same talent level. If I'm Phoenix I ask for one of the big 4 or Edmonton needs to add the first pick plus.

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Sigh. Please read the article or better still listen to the radio interview.
yea cause GMs always tell the total truth to the media

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Not much of a wow factor unless one of the big 4 are involved.
my guess is Eberle for a big D-man
disagree. one of the top 4 going out wouldnt be WOW but WTH

getting someone like Yandle \ Luongo or a guy like Streit has plenty WOW.

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OEL straight up for Eberle?
Oilers have some help coming in the form of Klefbom, Shultz, Marincin on the back end. I think they pass.

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Paajarvi + Petry
Paajarvi would round out the LW side and Petry would replace Yandle on D.
Coyotes won't want D coming back,.the reason Yandle might be available is because they have a **** load of high end d coming down the pipeline.

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