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11-03-2012, 10:35 PM
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Holy god. Grachev didn't even flinch with THAT.

No wonder Bute couldn't make him back up... that guy is a ROCK. Most of these were knockouts on many, many opponents.

I think Grachev was very underestimated.
I think it was pretty established that Grachev could take punches.

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11-03-2012, 10:37 PM
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Not even close?

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I think it was pretty established that Grachev could take punches.
Yes, it was.
But that round was a bit ridiculous.

Wait... who's the donkey that had 118-110?!?!?

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hahahahahaah n'importe quoi!!! 118-110

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ahaha Bute didnt deserve that.

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With a 118-110, it was OBVIOUS this was Bute.

But how could a judge came up with 118-110?

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11-03-2012, 10:38 PM
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LOL a judge had the Russ Anber card. hahaha

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118-110 was probably for gratchev

Bute should leave the bell center before the police find him... that's a steal

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I liked the last few rounds from Bute and he saved it for me... but the judge who gave 118-110? Seriously? It was a lot closer than that.

But wth do I know about boxing? I'll always be more impressed by fighters who initiate offense than by fighters who just defend and give one punch every round.

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11-03-2012, 10:40 PM
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But seriously, that last minute 10 seconds for Bute... what the hell happened, where was he all night!!

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118-110 was probably for gratchev

Bute should leave the bell center before the police find him... that's a steal
Naw. 116-112 makes sense. Bute had the first 3 rounds, 4th was debatable, Grachev crushed the 5th and dominated up to the 8th, then Bute came back and controlled the fight better, and ended strong at the 11th and 12th rounds.

But 118-110 is just epic homer, No way you only give 2 rounds to Grachev. There is no way. He won 4 or 5.

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But seriously, that last minute 10 seconds for Bute... what the hell happened, where was he all night!!
5th round scared him ****less. He saw his career end in that round.

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11-03-2012, 10:41 PM
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118-110 was probably for gratchev

Bute should leave the bell center before the police find him... that's a steal
No, it wasn't. I had 116-112, with three rounds that could have really be either way. But it seems the judge who gave the 118-110 went with whom was the better boxer as opposed to whom had the better round.

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11-03-2012, 10:42 PM
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I liked the last few rounds from Bute and he saved it for me... but the judge who gave 118-110? Seriously? It was a lot closer than that.

But wth do I know about boxing? I'll always be more impressed by fighters who initiate offense than by fighters who just defend and give one punch every round.
Me too..... Bute was running around all night long and to me, Grachev took the center of the ring tonight.

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11-03-2012, 10:43 PM
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Naw. 116-112 makes sense. Bute had the first 3 rounds, 4th was debatable, Grachev crushed the 5th and dominated up to the 8th, then Bute came back and controlled the fight better, and ended strong at the 11th and 12th rounds.

But 118-110 is just epic homer, No way you only give 2 rounds to Grachev. There is no way. He won 4 or 5.



5th round scared him ****less. He saw his career end in that round.
I actually gave 4, 5, 7 and 8 to Grachev. Round 6 was really a judgment call and Bute did threw the better punches in that round (Grached dictated the round but couldn't really land).

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11-03-2012, 10:45 PM
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thats what stupidabout boxing
If this fight would ve been in Russia , Grachev would ve won.
Anyways, I m happy for Bute but not impressed

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Disappointed with Bute but he won it.

Froch/Pascal/Stevenson would all kill him if he keeps fighting without testicles.

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11-03-2012, 10:47 PM
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Disappointed with Bute but he won it.

Froch/Pascal/Stevenson would all kill him if he keeps fighting without testicles.
Pascal est hyped. Bute would win easily

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Personally, I didn't like this fight and some previous fights from earlier tonight showed way more intensity. Bute was too passive and lacked of confidence. He didn't want to open up at round 9-10 because there was a chance that he wouldn't finish the fight. Finally, Bute has more skills and talent than Grachev and could have shown it right at the beginning.

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11-03-2012, 10:50 PM
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Pascal est hyped. Bute would win easily
Bute is hyped too. The old Bute would win but the new Bute has no confidence.

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11-03-2012, 10:53 PM
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Bute didn't deserved that win.

Now, Pascal get back in the ring, please.

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11-03-2012, 11:06 PM
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Bute is hyped too. The old Bute would win but the new Bute has no confidence.
Je sais pas, Bute at the end of the last round had a hell lot of confidence

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11-03-2012, 11:10 PM
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Pascal est hyped. Bute would win easily
Pascal had a good fight against Froch, 2 good close fight against Hopkins and he beat Dawson. Bute had never beat a good fighter. Bute-Pascal should be a close fight but i give the edge to Pascal.

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11-03-2012, 11:11 PM
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Je sais pas, Bute at the end of the last round had a hell lot of confidence
Oui, but it took him until the 12th round to get that confidence... All of Froch/Pascal/Stevenson would not let him get that far. They would end the fight quickly.

I believe that the Bute we saw in the 12th round is the real Bute. He just needs to work on his mental. The Froch fight really hurt his confidence.

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11-03-2012, 11:19 PM
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I actually gave 4, 5, 7 and 8 to Grachev. Round 6 was really a judgment call and Bute did threw the better punches in that round (Grached dictated the round but couldn't really land).
I pretty much agree. I gave round 6 to Bute but round 10 to Grachev so I had it 115-113 Bute. ESPN's Dan Rafael gave it 116-112 for Bute.

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11-03-2012, 11:42 PM
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I was there tonight and really, Bute was underwhelming. He can thank his capacity to dodge punches and his defense because if not, his night would've been much shorter... :/

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