Jesse Spector @jessespector
Here's the thing I keep coming back to: Why is the all-night meeting happening right after they axed the Winter Classic, not before?
1) PA realized the NHL is NOT bluffing
2) PA succeeded in crushing revenue flow on the owners, using the Winter Classic's axed revenue flow as a message to stop locking them out over future CBA's... Side note, I'm sure they are frustrating the hell out of Bettman by letting him axe the winter classic, and I'm sure Red Wings and Leaf owners are incredibly upset to have their Outdoor Classic game cancelled as well
From the PA side, the proposals that they have presented have all had the backing of the NHL players, so how do you progress so far (as it seems today) without getting the players feedback? Or is it progress that the PA thinks is good enough that the players will agree on?
Nah, the game is done even if a deal is struck in the next 20 minutes. Could you piss off a fan more if they canceled their hotel/flight plans and then they put the game back on?
I think they cancelled the game because there's not going to be any interconference play once you reach the point of no return.
They could play a full conference schedule and play 64 games. Having the WC between those two teams is a huge scheduling problem, even if you had a small crossover against random teams it effects travel.
Lets be realistic here; although it would be some kind of Saturnaya miracle to wake up to a new CBA, what we should hope for is some kind of statement along the lines of "progress made, meetings scheduled with all parties for Monday/Tuesday etc. etc."
From the PA side, the proposals that they have presented have all had the backing of the NHL players, so how do you progress so far (as it seems today) without getting the players feedback? Or is it progress that the PA thinks is good that players will agree on?
Perhaps it's not so much an exchange of new proposals, as agreement and hashing-out of details on things that have been proposed already. If enough agreement exists, perhaps the idea is to generate the first version of an "endgame" document and present it to both sides for reaction and modification.
Which is to say, it won't end tonight. But this could be the beginning of a relatively quick finish.
Could you imagine if they tried to salvage it(the WC) and had a half full stadium for the game? It'll be played next year in front of 100,000plus guarenteed, full capacity with all the other bells and whistles. If it wasn't Detroit, i'd say they maybe could pull it off but theres so much going into this one in particular.
There is zero chance they uncancel the winter classic. Not only would it be a PR disaster now that people have canceled tickets and hotel rooms but also you have to remember Ilitch wants it done right and he doesn't want the taint of this lockout to be on the winter classic.
Yeah, as soon as something is cancelled it's just that; cancelled. Ticket holders and people involved with the event would be pretty angry at being jerked around like that.
On that note, if this is indeed the end of hostilities, I wonder what role the "verbal offer" earlier this week might have played.
Pure speculation: it seems like this meeting happened really quickly after everyone found out the owners had budged on Make Whole three days before the Winter Classic was cancelled, yet the offer was kept under Fehr's hat until after the fact of cancellation. Perhaps that was enough to break a significant number of players' confidence in his ability to recoup their losses by continuing to draw out the process.