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11-05-2012, 11:50 AM
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Only requirement is that they have reached the 30 goal plateau atleast once since the year 2002. I'm gonna say David Clarkson or Jonathan Cheechoo
But Cheechoo scored 56 goals, how is he the worst player to score 30 or more goals??

It don't make no sense.

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11-05-2012, 11:57 AM
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Yeah, anyone that would mention Daze in this thread didn't see him play, what a joke, guy was a goal machine.
I would have loved to have had Daze on the Wings... guy was a beast. Had he stayed healthy, he probably had another 4-5 30-goal years in him. No way should he be on this list.

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11-05-2012, 12:00 PM
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I would have loved to have had Daze on the Wings... guy was a beast. Had he stayed healthy, he probably had another 4-5 30-goal years in him. No way should he be on this list.
Bad back ended his career way too soon.

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11-05-2012, 12:01 PM
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I would vote for this, except that he went 29 and 30 goals right after the lockout. Those two seasons were about 1/4 of his career goal totals.

I'd say it's a tossup between Boyes and Clark.

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11-05-2012, 12:06 PM
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You can pretty much throw anyone who only reached that number during the 05-06 season. That season was an anomaly and guys put up numbers that year that they couldn't even come close to matching again.

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11-05-2012, 12:14 PM
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I was thinking Svatos as well until I read the Clark comment.

My vote is for Chris Clark

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11-05-2012, 12:40 PM
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Has anyone mentioned Chris Clark?

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11-05-2012, 12:42 PM
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11-05-2012, 12:46 PM
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Chris Clark is the right call. An absolutely worthless player netting 30 is impressive.

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11-05-2012, 01:21 PM
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Scott Young was the first name that came to mind, but I'm not really sure how he was as a player. All I know is that he scored 40 out of nowhere and that was it.

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11-05-2012, 01:25 PM
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I would vote for this, except that he went 29 and 30 goals right after the lockout. Those two seasons were about 1/4 of his career goal totals.

I'd say it's a tossup between Boyes and Clark.
Boyes has had a 43, a 33, and a 26. He's well above most of the guys being mentioned. His career average outside of his best year is 19.8 goals.

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11-05-2012, 01:25 PM
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Hmm, Daze? Anson Carter? Svatos? Prucha?

For me, it'd be one of Svatos or Prucha, I'll go Svatos.
Just because I am a huge Daze fan I feel the need to point out that he struggled with injuries his entire NHL career (his back plagued his most of his NHL career if I recall correctly).

Could have been a much more consistent player if it weren't for that.

EDIT: I see some others have already pointed this out.

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11-05-2012, 01:29 PM
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Chris Clark was a good player for what he brought to the ice. Just cuz he scored 30 goals one year doesn't make him a bad player -lol- there is so much wrong with that logic I don't know where to start.

Clark was the captain of the Capitals which proves his worth as a hockey player.

Funny how easy some ppull jump on bandwagons.

Chris Clark was NOT the worst player to hit 30 goals since the 2002 season.

In my opinion that would be either Mark Parrish who did it in 02 or Jussi Jokinen who did it in 10. Clark is, IMCO, easily a better player then either or those two.

The ppull mentioning Prucha and Svatos aren't far off the right answer.

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11-05-2012, 01:29 PM
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Scott Young was the first name that came to mind, but I'm not really sure how he was as a player. All I know is that he scored 40 out of nowhere and that was it.
Scott Young was a very good player for a very long time.

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11-05-2012, 01:32 PM
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Scott Young was a very good player for a very long time.
He also never scored 30 or more goals in a season since 2002 so he's not even eligible to be nominated in this thread.

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All 30 of David Clarkson's goals were hilarious pinball goals, through the goalie's equipment, or literally deflected off his ass.

That being said, he's a guys that's consistently good for ~20 a year or so, it's not a huge stretch that in a good year with a coach he's familiar with that he might hit 30. Not unreasonable. I doubt he ever gets it again, but I see him averaging 20-25 goals the next few seasons.

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11-05-2012, 01:40 PM
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I'm surprised this one has not been said yet. Scott Gomez.
Gomez was an elite player when he was a Devil, he shouldn't be anywhere near this list

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11-05-2012, 01:42 PM
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I think this actually may be the best answer. Little shouldn't be included though, he's a pretty good player.

Prucha and Svatos have both been mentioned already (deservedly so).

I don't think people should say Cheechoo, he was pretty good before his knees gave out and he had a few good statistical seasons.

Cheechoo's problem wasn't his knees, it was a sports hernia. He was never a good skater before that, and the injury then robbed him of what little ability he had left. I remember during the 10-11 season when he played with Worcester, some of the WorSharks posters were noting that defencemen skating backwards were able to catch up to him.

and I agree that he shouldn't be on the list. He had a 56 goal season, a 37 goal season, and a 28 goal season (that one was before Joe Thornton, and he was playing on basically a 3rd line with, IIRC, Nik Sundstrom and I think Mike Ricci.

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11-05-2012, 01:49 PM
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I feel bad for Cheechoo. He will always be remember as a flop, but the guy was a damn good player before his injuries.

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All the Prucha comments bring me back to that short period of time when people were actually arguing that he was better than Crosby

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=204420
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=206746
Too bad the threads are closed, these would be the bumps to end all bumps.

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11-05-2012, 02:10 PM
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Chris Clark was a good player for what he brought to the ice. Just cuz he scored 30 goals one year doesn't make him a bad player -lol- there is so much wrong with that logic I don't know where to start.

Clark was the captain of the Capitals which proves his worth as a hockey player.

Funny how easy some ppull jump on bandwagons.

Chris Clark was NOT the worst player to hit 30 goals since the 2002 season.

In my opinion that would be either Mark Parrish who did it in 02 or Jussi Jokinen who did it in 10. Clark is, IMCO, easily a better player then either or those two.

The ppull mentioning Prucha and Svatos aren't far off the right answer.
Clark wasn't captain of the Capitals because he was the best player, he was captain because of his locker room leadership and work ethic. Considering other recent Caps captains (Halpern, Hunter, Konowalchuk, Witt) it becomes clear the type of player the franchise likes to appoint captain. Oates and Ovechkin are the only "skill" guys recently named captains of the Caps (spare the Ovie shouldn't be the Captain BS for another thread).

Clark was a 3rd/4th liner who rode Ovechkin's coat tales to a 30 goal season. He never scored more than 10 goals or 25 points when he wasn't on Ovechkin's line. And the only reason he was on Ovie's line was because they were garbage Caps teams that only managed to get 70 points over the course of the season (guys like Brian Willsie and Matt Pettinger were in the top six as well).

Clark couldn't even hold down a role with the AHL Providence Bruins this season. I would definitely take both Parrish and Jokinen over Clark.

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Stafford averages about 24 goals per 82 games throughout his career, so it's hardly a stretch for him to hit 30. Not to mention he is still young and probably has some good seasons in front of him.

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11-05-2012, 02:17 PM
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Boyes has had a 43, a 33, and a 26. He's well above most of the guys being mentioned. His career average outside of his best year is 19.8 goals.
His numbers have been in a downward spiral since his 43 goal season. He hasn't had 43 goals in his last 4 seasons combined.

He has averaged 10 goals a season since 2009-10. Is he really above most of the guys mentioned?

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Chris Clark was a good player for what he brought to the ice. Just cuz he scored 30 goals one year doesn't make him a bad player -lol- there is so much wrong with that logic I don't know where to start.

Clark was the captain of the Capitals which proves his worth as a hockey player.

Funny how easy some ppull jump on bandwagons.

Chris Clark was NOT the worst player to hit 30 goals since the 2002 season.

In my opinion that would be either Mark Parrish who did it in 02 or Jussi Jokinen who did it in 10. Clark is, IMCO, easily a better player then either or those two.

The ppull mentioning Prucha and Svatos aren't far off the right answer.
Well I assume in a thread talking about 30 goal scorers that we would be talking about their ability to score goals and not looking at leadership qualities or defensive capabilities. Chris Clark was a decent PKer and grinder who scored 20 then 30 goals out of the blue.

Parrish was actually a decent scorer, 6 seasons with over 20 goals. I wouldn't call him the worst, but definitely a one dimensional player.

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