HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Toronto Maple Leafs
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

If the season is wiped out - Lupul, Bozak, Conolly etc are UFA's

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-05-2012, 02:36 PM
  #51
sangreale
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,064
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
Assuming there's going to be a glut of available UFAs I'd just as soon walk away from all of them and opt for the franchise reboot. I find it just as likely as not that Lupul recaptures his 2012 form after a year off.
I would lean towards this model. That front end needs a retooling for sure. A couple of well placed FA's would fit the bill.

sangreale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 02:40 PM
  #52
Christ
Registered User
 
Christ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,021
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisx101 View Post
Keep Lupul then Bozak and MacArthur depending on the price....
Pretty much my call on this as well. Lupul might be hard contract as he is comming off a what may have been a breakthrough season or may have been a blip. I trust that Burke will not overspend if he asks for the moon though. Bozak would be a good third line center to keep and if he does not ask for too much MacArthur is a good depth scorer to have on the team.

Christ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 02:48 PM
  #53
dredeye
BJ Elitist/Hipster
 
dredeye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Country: Canada
Posts: 21,469
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 416Leafer View Post
Season better not be wiped out. What do you think we'd get in deadline deals for:

Connolly, Lombardi, Steckel, and MacArthur? We could probably add 4-5 picks in the upcoming draft by selling off those guys.

We'd still get the cap space, but we'd also get something valuable in return for them.
It really would have been a great year for the leafs to capitalize on their impending free agents and loading up on draft picks or a few more prospects. I think it's really unfortunate for you guys that this season could end up being toast. I guess the fact that the other ufa's aren't in talks with their managers leaving some very high quality players open to free agency could be the other side of that and beneficial to the leafs. I do think this lockout was good for your leafs.

dredeye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 02:57 PM
  #54
chilfactor
Registered User
 
chilfactor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,792
vCash: 500
We need some more size up front and neither Bozak or Macarthur address that. Plus with Kadri, Frattin, Colborne, Komarov, D'Amigo etc all waiting in the wings, we have too many bodies

chilfactor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:02 PM
  #55
Pyrophorus
Registered User
 
Pyrophorus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Eastern GTA
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,506
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Pyrophorus Send a message via Yahoo to Pyrophorus Send a message via Skype™ to Pyrophorus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyedea View Post
How do we expect to sign Perry + Getzlaf while extending Kessel, Phaneuf and Gardiner a year afterwards?
Off the wall, but how about not re-signing Dion.

Pyrophorus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:07 PM
  #56
MapleLeafsFan4Ever
Go Leafs Go
 
MapleLeafsFan4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,575
vCash: 500
I heard that after the 2004-2005 lockout the NHL and NHLPA agreed that player contracts from that season would lose 1 year of their deals. So won't they need to agree to that condition again before we can say 100% that Lupul, Bozak, Connolly and etc are going to be UFA's, assuming this season is cancelled.

MapleLeafsFan4Ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:19 PM
  #57
Eyedea
The Legend Continues
 
Eyedea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Greece
Posts: 15,105
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrophorus View Post
Off the wall, but how about not re-signing Dion.
That's certainly an option, although I thought the consensus choice was that he'd be around for a while longer.

Eyedea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:33 PM
  #58
PasDaSquini
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 784
vCash: 500
Bozak 3Year deal at 2.35- Has shown great development and would be ideal for the 4rd line centre position
Lupul 2 year deal at 4.75 a slight raise to what his current contract is, on a short deal to show that his 60point performance was not a fluke.


I honestly do not see the need for anyone else. It will be time to cut these guys loose. The only remaining person that deserves a contract with the Leafs is MacArthur but I see Frattin and or Kadri filling his role in the near future.

PasDaSquini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:34 PM
  #59
Pierre Gotye
Registered User
 
Pierre Gotye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: McKinney, TX
Country: United States
Posts: 4,014
vCash: 500
The choice is easy, re-sign Lupul and see ya later to all the rest!

Pierre Gotye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:36 PM
  #60
Pierre Gotye
Registered User
 
Pierre Gotye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: McKinney, TX
Country: United States
Posts: 4,014
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PasDaSquini View Post
Bozak 3Year deal at 2.35- Has shown great development and would be ideal for the 4rd line centre position
Bozak is replacable...easily. By a kid on the farm or some other NHLer.

And he's not a top 6 player or an ideal bottom 6 player. See you later.

I'd rather see Joe Colborne take his place as a center, couldn't do any worse and would come cheaper.

Pierre Gotye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:43 PM
  #61
Suntouchable13
Registered User
 
Suntouchable13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Thornhill, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,124
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Gotye View Post
Bozak is replacable...easily. By a kid on the farm or some other NHLer.

And he's not a top 6 player or an ideal bottom 6 player. See you later.

I'd rather see Joe Colborne take his place as a center, couldn't do any worse and would come cheaper.
Thank you! I won't even notice him gone.

Suntouchable13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:44 PM
  #62
HockeyGuruPitka
Registered User
 
HockeyGuruPitka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,154
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Gotye View Post
Bozak is replacable...easily. By a kid on the farm or some other NHLer.

And he's not a top 6 player or an ideal bottom 6 player. See you later.

I'd rather see Joe Colborne take his place as a center, couldn't do any worse and would come cheaper.
lmao.. because we've had so many players step in and bump Bozak to this point? Connolly? Lombardi? Kadri? Grabovski? I dont think you actually understand the value Bozak brings to Toronto.

HockeyGuruPitka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 03:57 PM
  #63
Sundinisagod
93 v2.0
 
Sundinisagod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Zagreb
Country: Croatia
Posts: 9,578
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heatleys Eye View Post
Will be very interesting to see what Burke does with all the additional cap space - assuming it's close to where it was last season

UFA's:

Lupul - 4.25
Bozak - 1.5
Connolly - 4.75
Lombardi - 3.5
MacArthur - 3.25
Steckel - 1.1

$18 million + off the books for these players

Who other than Lupul do you want back?

Will also be interesting to see what Perry and Getzlaf do in terms of re-signing with the Ducks or going to Free Agency like Suter and Parise did

Bozak, on a 3rd line center's salary.

Sundinisagod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 04:17 PM
  #64
Brozak
i scoreded a goal
 
Brozak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kitchener, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,467
vCash: 500
Keep Lupul. You let him walk because you think his past season was a... fluke? Have you seen his highlights? That isn't a fluke. He's scored in every which way and has made Kessel better. Yup, Kessel's amazing season can be attributed to his partner in crime, Lupul.

And I don't think he'll be getting 6M+ and I'm very comfortable signing him for 5M.

Sign Bozak, makes an excellent 3rd line center.

Let the rest waaaaalk. Even though I like Lombardi, just no room for him.

Brozak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 04:53 PM
  #65
Morlesio14*
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: The 416
Country: North Korea
Posts: 776
vCash: 500
IMO if we sign perry and Getz we mabye might have to let go of lupul, MacArthur to make cap space for next years free agency

Morlesio14* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 04:54 PM
  #66
JVR2112
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 206
vCash: 500
I don't think Bozak is 'easily replaceable' at all. Guys a good center who gets ripped on for not being Getzlaf. If you watch Leafs games, hes always the first one back saving goals on that first line. I think hes a good 3rd line center and can slot into a top 6 role without any problems. He has value.

JVR2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 04:55 PM
  #67
TmlHockeyFan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,956
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morlesio14 View Post
IMO if we sign perry and Getz we mabye might have to let go of lupul, MacArthur to make cap space for next years free agency
Let MacArthur go and replace him with Perry.

TmlHockeyFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 04:56 PM
  #68
TmlHockeyFan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,956
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JVR2112 View Post
I don't think Bozak is 'easily replaceable' at all. Guys a good center who gets ripped on for not being Getzlaf. If you watch Leafs games, hes always the first one back saving goals on that first line. I think hes a good 3rd line center and can slot into a top 6 role without any problems. He has value.
IMO him and MacArthur are decent trade bait. I wouldn't mind getting picks for those two.

TmlHockeyFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:09 PM
  #69
DirtyDion03
**** Brooklyn
 
DirtyDion03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 21,061
vCash: 500
Would anyone complain about a 2 year deal worth 10 million for Lupul? Gives him a chance to prove he can repeat his performance and not hinder the team too bad in the process.

__________________
http://i57.tinypic.com/28b4abo.jpg
DirtyDion03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:11 PM
  #70
Drew311
Shanahanigans
 
Drew311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,017
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre Gotye View Post
Bozak is replacable...easily. By a kid on the farm or some other NHLer.

And he's not a top 6 player or an ideal bottom 6 player. See you later.

I'd rather see Joe Colborne take his place as a center, couldn't do any worse and would come cheaper.
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've read in a while.

You would be comfortable with Colborne centering our top line, the same person who hasn't even shown he can be a bery good AHL player?

Bozak isn't any Anze Kopitar, but he's by far the best top line centre option we have considering Grabovski has zero chemistry with Kessel.

Drew311 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:13 PM
  #71
AlienWorkShop
No Ben! No!
 
AlienWorkShop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,184
vCash: 500
Lupul's an obvious re-sign, though the amount and length is certainly debatable.

MacArthur a re-sign as well as he dropped off a bit from the year before, but kept up his goal scoring rate and produced fairly well at 3.25. Whether he fits long-term is questionable, but not a player you just let walk.

Bozak is similar to MacArthur, though I doubt he's going into free agency looking for "3rd-liner" money after scoring at a 53 point pace last year. An obvious benefactor of Kessel and Lupul, but he probably thinks of himself as a top-6 forward. He'll be 27 soon too, so while I'd lean toward re-signing him, we may be seeing all we're going to get.

Like pretty much any bottom-6 player, whether we re-sign Steckel would depend on the rest of our depth. Not an imperative signing, but nothing wrong with re-signing him if there's a hole at 4th line centre.

Lombardi and Connolly... Fairly obvious we let them go based on what we've seen. I think some of you have got your hopes a little high thinking we could've dished them off for draft picks as they generally have negative value at this point (just look at how we got Lombardi in the first place)

I was somewhat hopeful Connolly would have a bounceback year being a contract year. I don't quite remember if there were injury rumours or not, but he had a pretty hefty decline after the All-Star break (53 point pace before, 30 after). He's not washed up just yet at 32, but if the season is a wash then there's not much reason to bring him back on a hope.

Anyway, a little early for this thread...

AlienWorkShop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:19 PM
  #72
81
#Stammer2016
 
81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Queens Park
Posts: 8,686
vCash: 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by mapes View Post
Haha I came to post this.
Another perfect fit.





Backstom, Getzlaf, Perry and MacKinnon wow!

81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:26 PM
  #73
thewave
Registered User
 
thewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 12,744
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SprDaVE View Post
I would bring Bozak back... easily actually, especially for the around the same cap hit.

Him and Lupul are the only 2 I would bring back of that group.

I think we can replace MacArthur and Steckel from within.
Would you bring Bozak back for 3.5m?

thewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:27 PM
  #74
ForSpareParts*
agreement
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,904
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisx101 View Post
Zajac, Clowe or Weiss would be our best bet

Lupul - Weiss/Zajac - Kessel
Clowe - Grabovski - JVR
Kulemin - Bozak - Frattin/Kadri

Would be good consolation if we miss out on Getzlaf or perry
hi five


ForSpareParts* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-05-2012, 05:37 PM
  #75
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,852
vCash: 500
Let all 3 go and offer Getzlaf/Perry identical 120 million contracts with massive signing bonuses.

RogerRoeper* is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:43 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.