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10-27-2012, 06:09 PM
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he was asked that about Slepyshev, and his response was, well Slepyshev had preseason and he will be ready, same goes for Kadeikin, Kucherov - I don't think so...

that's moronic.
Yeah that is some reverse logic there. On the flip side Kucherov was held out of the roster yesterday for Sorensen. I think they are going to rotate until a trade is made.. Ughhh I feel that Kucherov should have stayed in Russia this year.

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10-27-2012, 10:19 PM
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Yeah that is some reverse logic there. On the flip side Kucherov was held out of the roster yesterday for Sorensen. I think they are going to rotate until a trade is made.. Ughhh I feel that Kucherov should have stayed in Russia this year.
I agree, but I can sort of understand Kucherov. Look at CSKA now, little time for youngsters.

Probably would be better if he played in VHL though...

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10-28-2012, 10:53 AM
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I agree, but I can sort of understand Kucherov. Look at CSKA now, little time for youngsters.

Probably would be better if he played in VHL though...
Gusev and Naumenkov are getting first line minutes in THK, Kucherov would have benefited from that greatly, vs playing some kids in the CHL

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10-28-2012, 03:14 PM
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Russia will not win next WJC 'cause a team, who was announced for SSS, has not a leader. Yakupov isn't a leader. He is a too dependent player who needs a very good playmaker. He needs that all of his linemates plays for him and adjusting to him. On junior level, to force a 20 people plays adjusting to 1....It's a very-very difficulty. From the others, no one could be a really franchise player cause they have not enough talent and experience for that.
I suggest you get your infos straight. The SSS roster is NEVER the WJC roster. There is much tryouts on both sides.

Yakupov IS a leader. That is actually his 'problem' when he will start playing on the 1st NT. Exactly like Kuznetsov he's a scorer and a leader who will have a tough time shoving his ego up his ... when playing alongside the likes of Datsyuk. That was Kuznetsov's failure during the WC 2012.

And you are watching the games from the wrong universe. Yakupov is a pretty complete offensive player. He's has the vison and makes plays for others. If you watched the WJC 2011-2012 which I doubt reading your post you should remember Yakupov being the playmaker for Kuznetsov all tournament long.

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10-28-2012, 03:23 PM
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adult and junior level - two different stories. In Edmonton Yakupov won't can play as brilliance as in Sarnia. Grigorenko....are you kidding? I don't ever seen slower skater than this guy. He doesn't fit to Yakupov. On WJC-18 in 2011, Grigorenko more interacted with Kucherov than Nail. Sigarev is level a lot lower. For Neftekhimik, Yakupov scored lucky goals, excepting last two. He was supported a scoring flair to be on right point in right time. Many of his goals were scored after rebounds. Anyway, i think he won't can take over the burden of leadership.
Now you get a laugh out of me. Really!

Remember these words: scoring 'lucky' goals is what separates a natural born scoring machine from a guy with a good shot. It's vision, it's hockey IQ, it's just being at the right place at the right time. AND with NH Yakupov doesn't have linemates skilled enough to convert on his playmaking like Kuznetsov did during the last WJC.

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10-29-2012, 02:45 PM
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How does this team compare to past years ?

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10-30-2012, 08:42 AM
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Gusev and Naumenkov are getting first line minutes in THK, Kucherov would have benefited from that greatly, vs playing some kids in the CHL
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10-30-2012, 08:49 AM
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How does this team compare to past years ?
In short, maybe a little less poise offensively than last year, but it looks more balanced. More choices Defensively. Better Goaltending.

The big Question, still, is the coaching.

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10-30-2012, 02:24 PM
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Deepest team in memory.

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Deepest team in memory.
I would say last year's team was a bit deeper offensively, when you had guys like Yakupov playing on the 3rd line at times. And if you look at that roster of Kuzya, Grigs, Kucherov, Gusev, Yakupov, Telegin, Kosov- it's like pick your poison... and where would you put Namestnikov and Galiev had they been healthy... ?

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I would say last year's team was a bit deeper offensively, when you had guys like Yakupov playing on the 3rd line at times. And if you look at that roster of Kuzya, Grigs, Kucherov, Gusev, Yakupov, Telegin, Kosov- it's like pick your poison... and where would you put Namestnikov and Galiev had they been healthy... ?
Grigorenko was very young last year. Kucherov and Kosov also quite young. Yakupov underage.

Of course, the defense wasn't anywhere near as good. And the goalies were both underage.

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11-01-2012, 05:52 PM
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So this years team could rival Canada's team ?

I know that we're expecting a gold because its likely we have all our NHLers etc..

Who will backup Vasilevsky ?

Who was coach last year ? Bragin ?

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So this years team could rival Canada's team ?

I know that we're expecting a gold because its likely we have all our NHLers etc..

Who will backup Vasilevsky ?

Who was coach last year ? Bragin ?
Here we like to ask- could Canada's team rival Russia? We have our NHLers and KHLers too.

Makarov might even start, he looked better during last SS.

Yes on Bragin

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Here we like to ask- could Canada's team rival Russia? We have our NHLers and KHLers too.

Makarov might even start, he looked better during last SS.

Yes on Bragin
Lol we agree to disagree my friend !

So Yakupov-Grigorenko-Kucherov ?

That would be unbelievable, and NHL line right there.

I assume that Barbashev and Nichuskin will be there ?

I did not know Makarov was still eligible, I take he and Vasilevsky are expected to return.

Russia will be strong in nets. Perhaps the strongest since Varlamov ?

On D what can I expect ?

I'm hoping a very competitive WJC, with the lockout and all, all teams will be at their best or close to it...

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Lol we agree to disagree my friend !

So Yakupov-Grigorenko-Kucherov ?

That would be unbelievable, and NHL line right there.

I assume that Barbashev and Nichuskin will be there ?

I did not know Makarov was still eligible, I take he and Vasilevsky are expected to return.

Russia will be strong in nets. Perhaps the strongest since Varlamov ?

On D what can I expect ?
might as well want to read the rest of the thread?

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might as well want to read the rest of the thread?
I take it your day didn't go well...

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Lol we agree to disagree my friend !

So Yakupov-Grigorenko-Kucherov ?

That would be unbelievable, and NHL line right there.

I assume that Barbashev and Nichuskin will be there ?

I did not know Makarov was still eligible, I take he and Vasilevsky are expected to return.

Russia will be strong in nets. Perhaps the strongest since Varlamov ?

On D what can I expect ?

I'm hoping a very competitive WJC, with the lockout and all, all teams will be at their best or close to it...
Quoting my earlier post:

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Something like this for the WJC, gents?

Nikolai Prokhorkin - Mikhail Grigorenko - Nikita Kucherov
Maxim Shalunov - Alexander Khokhlachev - Nail Yakupov
Anton Slepyshev - Aleander Kadeykin - Yaroslav Kosov
Andrei Sigarev - Vladimir Tkachev - Anton Zlobin

Nikita Nesterov - Artem Sergeev
Mikhail Naumenkov - Albert Yarullin
Kirill Dyakov - Andrei Mironov
Nikita Zadorov - Andrei Pedan

Andrei Vasilevski - Andrei Makarov
Many people feel Zhafyarov should be there. Maybe jumped the gun with Zadorov, but we'll see.

Pedan is not even playing at the SSS, so I guess maybe Dyblenko, Vasilevski.

Barbashev - no chance. Nichushkin - maybe. This is a deep team, so don't expect underagers to get spots easily.

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Many people feel Zhafyarov should be there. Maybe jumped the gun with Zadorov, but we'll see.

Pedan is not even playing at the SSS, so I guess maybe Dyblenko, Vasilevski.

Barbashev - no chance. Nichushkin - maybe. This is a deep team, so don't expect underagers to get spots easily.
I think Dyblenko has been cut from the team in Moscow and will go with the 2nd U20 team. There's enough D with guys joining from CHL.

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Lol we agree to disagree my friend !

So Yakupov-Grigorenko-Kucherov ?

That would be unbelievable, and NHL line right there.

I assume that Barbashev and Nichuskin will be there ?

I did not know Makarov was still eligible, I take he and Vasilevsky are expected to return.

Russia will be strong in nets. Perhaps the strongest since Varlamov ?

On D what can I expect ?

I'm hoping a very competitive WJC, with the lockout and all, all teams will be at their best or close to it...
You can go to prospects section of the board- I broke it down to the latest practice lines that they had. Gives a good a idea of what's coming for WJC.

Also- all of the questions you asked are like within the last two pages, it is kind of lazy of you.

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After game 2 some of my observations:
Shenfeild: Absolutely useless at this level, too soft, not enough skill, keep him home
Kapustin: Also not good enough for this level, has done nothing on the top line but make too many mistakes.
Nesterov: Wow was he bad. He got beat on the same pinch play 3 times, coughed up the puck a number of times and got beat several other times, ouch.
Kokhlachev: Has been a ghost, him and Yakupov looked terrible together, the line needs to be broken up, Koko should have been sent to the VHL to regain his scoring confidence.
Yakupov: Did not look good in game 2, too many try to do it yourself plays.. He didn't utilize his teamates well at all, that may be because the line has horrible chemistry all together... I fear that Yak is no Kuznetsov, who was able to pull out a great play out of nowhere to put his team back in the game. From what I seen of Yakupov when the going gets tough he struggles a bit. I hope he proves what I say wrong.

Dyakov: Biggest surprise for me, very strong back there, physical, limited errors, good offensive touch.
Tkachev: Looks like he will make a useful role player, showed terrific skill on his goal.
Shalunov: Has shown well in the summer and now, a very creative player.
Nicushkin: Didn't think he would be physically mature enough to play at this level, but he definitely is, was barrowling through checks.
Kucherov: He is badly needed, at least on the powerplay. Get him and Grigo together, maybe Grigo will wake up.
Slepyshev: Need him too.

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11-08-2012, 06:46 AM
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Shenfield played a lot of pk, someone got to do it, offensively he can not play with the speed of small rinks, don't forget the WJC will be on our-sized rink, he will have more time. Nesterov at times looked good, but defensively awful and he can't be on the same pair with Yarullin that's accident waiting to happen, Nesterov was directly responsible for 2 goals on us in game 2. Nichushkin was trhowing checks but couldn't do anything with the puck, too nervous.
Zhafyarov was hyped up and awful last night as well, I attribute it to nerves as well. Correct me if I am wrong, but he didn't
have to much international exposure.
Vasilevskiy is also pretty bad (the older one)

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Shenfield played a lot of pk, someone got to do it, offensively he can not play with the speed of small rinks, don't forget the WJC will be on our-sized rink, he will have more time.
I would rather anyone else, he didn't show enough to be on the roster IMO, when you look at the depth this year, there are 3 or 4 guys that could make themselves more useful to the team than him. What blows my mind is how a guy like this would be considered over a guy like Kucherov.

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Zhafyarov was hyped up and awful last night as well, I attribute it to nerves as well.
That might have been his first NA game, he showed good hustle and speed, but nothing offensive. I see him used on the PK, Im hoping by the end of the series he shows a better game.

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Vasilevskiy is also pretty bad (the older one)
Yes

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It's looking like a strong team, it's also good that I recognize these names ! Well not for Canada...

It looks like an older team, balanced lines, lot of scoring, a few highend players.

Will Barbashev get a chance to tryout ?

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Will Barbashev get a chance to tryout ?
i highly doubt it, next year may be.

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It's looking like a strong team, it's also good that I recognize these names ! Well not for Canada...

It looks like an older team, balanced lines, lot of scoring, a few highend players.

Will Barbashev get a chance to tryout ?
if he stayed at home, maybe

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