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11-08-2012, 04:57 PM
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Central then Atlantic.

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11-08-2012, 05:07 PM
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You're talking about teams, this is a coach thread. Philly, Pittsburgh and NYR all have better teams currently than St. Louis, Nashville and Detroit on paper. People argue the only reason St. Louis even made the playoffs, let alone finished second in the west, was because of Hitchcock. People say the only reason Nashville has been so successful is because of Trotz. Detroit is Detroit but their key players are starting to age. None of these teams have a Crosby, Malkin, or Giroux playing for them.

Please,
Don't tell me the Devils looked like a powerhouse. they lacked so much forwards' depth that grandpa' Sykora came from a try-out to make Devils 1st line in a few days. Salvador, Greene and Fayne were Devils' top defence-men.
Philly has Giroux but neither goaltending nor defence.
Pitts has the 2 best players in the world but see, without good coaching, that means *****: Bylsma got that much out-coached by Laviollette that he lost his mind.
As for the Rangers, team success relies mostly on 2 persons and 1 mindset: Lundqvist and Tortorella's "collapsing" system.

There's a huge correlation between a team success and its coaching, of course we've got to talk about teams.


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11-08-2012, 05:11 PM
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Since this thread has pretty much gone how I expected it would, it's time to deploy the backup plan.

Central and Atlantic are 1 and 2 in some order, how does the top 6 round out?

Central
Atlantic
Pacific
Northeast
Southeast
Northwest

The last three were a real mess. I think it's hard to justify the Northwest in last with a juggernaut point-getter in Vancouver, but their relative playoff success as a whole division scored them the benefit of the doubt.


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11-08-2012, 05:15 PM
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Please,
Don't tell me the Devils looked like a powerhouse. they lacked so much forwards' depth that grandpa' Sykora came from a try-out to make Devils 1st line in a few days. Salvador, Greene and Fayne were Devils' top defence-men.
Philly has Giroux but neither goaltending nor defence.
Pitts has the 2 best players in the world but see, without good coaching, that means *****: Bylmsa got that much out-coached by Laviollette that he lost his mind.
As for the Rangers, team success relies mostly on 2 persons and 1 mindset: Lundqvist and Tortorella's "collapsing" system.

There's a huge correlation between a team success and its coaching, of course we've got to talk about teams.
Philly, Pittsburgh and the Rangers are playoff teams with pretty much any NHL coach. Can you say the same about St. Louis and Nashville? Even Detroit might not have made the playoffs without one of the best coaches in the league.

It's widely known that Babcock and Trotz are 2 of the leagues best coaches and you also have Hitchcock who won the Jack Adams last year. I'm not saying the Atlantic has better coaches but the Central has better.

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11-08-2012, 05:28 PM
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Philly, Pittsburgh and the Rangers are playoff teams with pretty much any NHL coach. Can you say the same about St. Louis and Nashville? Even Detroit might not have made the playoffs without one of the best coaches in the league.

It's widely known that Babcock and Trotz are 2 of the leagues best coaches and you also have Hitchcock who won the Jack Adams last year. I'm not saying the Atlantic has better coaches but the Central has better.
I'd be ok to agree that it's a very close call. Central teams lack of talent but still make decent playoffs runs but Altantic teams did not disappoint neither and were dominating their own conference. Now I hope you understand it could be just a a matter of taste, you've got yours and I've got mine.

I really enjoy aggressive system, very strong on the forecheck. And I've been spoiled between Pitts, Philly and NJD. NYR playing completely the opposite system make all this division even more interesting to follow.

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11-08-2012, 05:40 PM
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11-08-2012, 05:42 PM
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11-08-2012, 06:03 PM
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Philly, Pittsburgh and the Rangers are playoff teams with pretty much any NHL coach. Can you say the same about St. Louis and Nashville? Even Detroit might not have made the playoffs without one of the best coaches in the league.

It's widely known that Babcock and Trotz are 2 of the leagues best coaches and you also have Hitchcock who won the Jack Adams last year. I'm not saying the Atlantic has better coaches but the Central has better.
06-6th place and first playoff appearance since 97 and then get swept
07-6th place again and first time in second round since 97 getting there by playing ATLANTA and then lose in 6
08-5th place and second round exit in 5
09-7th place and give up a 3-1 series lead in the first round
10-Miss the playoffs
11-8th place because Tampa won and eliminated in 5 games in first round

Yeah they are really playoff team with any coach.

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11-08-2012, 06:19 PM
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06-6th place and first playoff appearance since 97 and then get swept
07-6th place again and first time in second round since 97 getting there by playing ATLANTA and then lose in 6
08-5th place and second round exit in 5
09-7th place and give up a 3-1 series lead in the first round
10-Miss the playoffs
11-8th place because Tampa won and eliminated in 5 games in first round

Yeah they are really playoff team with any coach.
I wasn't aware that they've had the same team all of those years...

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11-08-2012, 06:47 PM
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babcock is over rated, id take atlantic

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11-08-2012, 06:55 PM
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I wasn't aware that they've had the same team all of those years...
What changed from last year to this? Richards. And frankly, he didn't take us from 8th to 1st

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11-08-2012, 06:56 PM
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11-08-2012, 06:59 PM
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What changed from last year to this? Richards. And frankly, he didn't take us from 8th to 1st
Del Zotto, Mcdonagh, and Staal getting that extra year of experience? You know, you're core defense.

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11-08-2012, 07:13 PM
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What changed from last year to this? Richards. And frankly, he didn't take us from 8th to 1st
McD and MDZ took enormous steps forward
Gaborik was healthy all year
Hagelin and Stepan, as well as Kreider in the playoffs
Lundqvist was noticeably more spectacular than normal

They've been rebuilding while staying competitive for quite some time now. It may have been a very similar team on paper, but it really wasn't. The Rangers young core has matured a lot in the past few years.

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11-08-2012, 07:20 PM
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babcock is over rated, id take atlantic
I know, that's what all the players of team Canada said too....

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11-08-2012, 07:51 PM
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McD and MDZ took enormous steps forward
Gaborik was healthy all year
Hagelin and Stepan, as well as Kreider in the playoffs
Lundqvist was noticeably more spectacular than normal

They've been rebuilding while staying competitive for quite some time now. It may have been a very similar team on paper, but it really wasn't. The Rangers young core has matured a lot in the past few years.
Don't know about McD, but MDZ was better, because of torts. He didn't take any ********, and put him in the minors. Hagelin was brought in to the team by Tortorella. Stepan looked no better than the previous season. Hank didn't get better, torts made the team play to cater to him.

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11-08-2012, 07:56 PM
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Central AINEC. Babcock, Trotz, Hitchcock. Nuff said.

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11-09-2012, 04:16 AM
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Muller - Oates - Dineen
Boucher - Noel

That D may be a bit suspect, but I pity the other divisions that have to play against those forwards

What's the Central going to do to counter, put Hitch in goal?

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SouthEast: AINEC

Muller - Oates - Dineen
Boucher - Noel

That D may be a bit suspect, but I pity the other divisions that have to play against those forwards

What's the Central going to do to counter, put Hitch in goal?
hahaha enjoyable derail. Central is the winner imo.

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The central easily. Quenneville, Babcock, Hitchcock and Trotz are all top 10 coaches in the NHL.

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I'd say Central then Atlantic.

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