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11-02-2012, 04:59 PM
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Actually the buzz for Argo has stayed much, much stronger than I thought it would. The Master seems very quiet in comparison. I think it might be one of those years where the front runner looks safe, but then gets blown out of the water by a late bloomer, ala The Social Network getting blindsided by The King's Speech. And, gee, who directed that anyway? I wonder if he has any new movies coming out.

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11-02-2012, 08:30 PM
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Russell Crowe had such a great run from the late 1990s through the mid-2000s that I can't even hold his lackluster last few years against him.
Put my votes down for The Insider and LA Confidential as his best with Master & Commander and A Beautiful Mind (a movie, I actual strongly dislike overall) next.

I think Matt Damon is very versatile and almost always delivers as well.

As for Leo -- he's good, but he's limited. He's very good at what he does, but other than The Aviator, his post Titanic career seems to be playing the same brooding, intense, serious role over and over. Some are shaded more than others, but it all feels the same, which is part of the reason I'm excited/interested in Django Unchained where it looks like he might even be having ... gasp ... FUN with a role for once.
Kind of like...Catch me if you can?

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11-02-2012, 10:06 PM
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Flight is a piece of hack work right out of old school Hollywood. Washington is good, but what else is new? I can't see him getting a nomination for this, though stranger things have happened, I suppose.

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11-03-2012, 12:15 AM
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Kind of like...Catch me if you can?
Catch Me if You Can was his swan song of having fun before becoming the blandest leading man in Hollywood.

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11-03-2012, 02:31 PM
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Catch Me if You Can was his swan song of having fun before becoming the blandest leading man in Hollywood.
I just find it funny that we all forgot about it. I strongly disagree that he is the Blandest leading man in Hollywood. His character in the Departed wasn't all dark, there were definitely light hearted moments in that movie, some darkness as well, but there was still light hearted moments.

The blandest leading man in Hollywood is definitely Keanu Reeves. I'd even say that Sam Worthington and Christian Bale are worse the Leonardo DiCaprio.

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My saying Leo is the blandest leading man because you always know exactly what you're going to get from him. I think he's a guy who hasn't shown the ability to be better than the character (if that makes sense). He's content to play it his one way, with slight vocal changes. He's completely unwilling to take chances.

For example, I'll compare him again with Matt Damon, who I think has shown the ability to play dramatic, comedic, and action roles. A few roles that I put ahead of anything I've seen DiCaprio do: Damon's roles in The Informant and True Grit. In The Informant, Damon creates a man who is so sure of his every move, and is so ruled by his BS that even he believes it. That scene near the end where he self destructs by changing his story over and over is so grat. In True Grit, he isn't afraid to be the butt of the joke, but gets chances to redeem himself. This is one of the big stars in Hollywood, and he took a role where he knew nobody would be able to take anything you say seriously for most of the film because of a tounge injury, and knock it out of the park.

Even roles where most people wouldn't be able to bring much emotional depth to, he finds a way, like Jason Bourne. He was the best part of Contagion, where he brought the only emotional impact to an overall very cold film. The scene where he is told about his wife's death is perfectly handled, although having Soderbergh running things probably didn't hurt.

Edit: But that's just my two cents. Maybe I just have a man crush on Matt Damon.

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11-03-2012, 04:04 PM
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My saying Leo is the blandest leading man because you always know exactly what you're going to get from him. I think he's a guy who hasn't shown the ability to be better than the character (if that makes sense). He's content to play it his one way, with slight vocal changes. He's completely unwilling to take chances.

For example, I'll compare him again with Matt Damon, who I think has shown the ability to play dramatic, comedic, and action roles. A few roles that I put ahead of anything I've seen DiCaprio do: Damon's roles in The Informant and True Grit. In The Informant, Damon creates a man who is so sure of his every move, and is so ruled by his BS that even he believes it. That scene near the end where he self destructs by changing his story over and over is so grat. In True Grit, he isn't afraid to be the butt of the joke, but gets chances to redeem himself. This is one of the big stars in Hollywood, and he took a role where he knew nobody would be able to take anything you say seriously for most of the film because of a tounge injury, and knock it out of the park.

Even roles where most people wouldn't be able to bring much emotional depth to, he finds a way, like Jason Bourne. He was the best part of Contagion, where he brought the only emotional impact to an overall very cold film. The scene where he is told about his wife's death is perfectly handled, although having Soderbergh running things probably didn't hurt.

Edit: But that's just my two cents. Maybe I just have a man crush on Matt Damon.
I didn't use to like Matt Damon, but lately I've noticed that he's actually pretty good. Every time I think if Matt Damon I always think of team America world police.

We could debate all day about who is the better actor, but frankly, it comes down to that preference. I prefer Leo, you prefer Matt. Either way, they'll both get an Oscar before they're done....hopefully.

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Flight is a piece of hack work right out of old school Hollywood. Washington is good, but what else is new? I can't see him getting a nomination for this, though stranger things have happened, I suppose.
You can't see Hollywood loving old school Hollywood in the form of honoring a great actor with a great resume?

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Actually the buzz for Argo has stayed much, much stronger than I thought it would. The Master seems very quiet in comparison. I think it might be one of those years where the front runner looks safe, but then gets blown out of the water by a late bloomer, ala The Social Network getting blindsided by The King's Speech. And, gee, who directed that anyway? I wonder if he has any new movies coming out.
Just watched Argo today. Very good film, extremely well executed (who knew Affleck had that much talent?). But if this is the frontrunner for Best Picture, it's a very weak year.

It's not as corny as Crash, but it might have the same fate of winning based on hype, and then easily forgettable in the near future.

I'm really hoping Kathryn Bigelow has another gem with Zero Dark Thirty. I don't care of musicals, so I probably won't even watch Les Mis.

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Just watched Argo today. Very good film, extremely well executed (who knew Affleck had that much talent?). But if this is the frontrunner for Best Picture, it's a very weak year.

It's not as corny as Crash, but it might have the same fate of winning based on hype, and then easily forgettable in the near future.
I did. I watched The Town. He's by far a better director then an actor though.

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Here's one I hadn't thought of - is anyone giving Skyfall a chance to sneak in somewhere?

I know, movies of a series or an archetype rarely have a place here, especially action movies...but it's getting some undeniably great reviews. Lots of praise for Bardem, too.

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Here's one I hadn't thought of - is anyone giving Skyfall a chance to sneak in somewhere?

I know, movies of a series or an archetype rarely have a place here, especially action movies...but it's getting some undeniably great reviews. Lots of praise for Bardem, too.
You never know. Casino Royale would have probably been nominated had there been 10 nominees that year.

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Here's one I hadn't thought of - is anyone giving Skyfall a chance to sneak in somewhere?

I know, movies of a series or an archetype rarely have a place here, especially action movies...but it's getting some undeniably great reviews. Lots of praise for Bardem, too.
Not the kind of movie the academy likes, but it may win (ranked in order of likelihood in my opinion) visual effects, sound mixing, sound editing or cinematography.

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Not the kind of movie the academy likes, but it may win (ranked in order of likelihood in my opinion) visual effects, sound mixing, sound editing or cinematography.
I have an early sneaking suspicion that Skyfall wins best cinematography. I've heard nothing but great things about the film, and everybody seems to be pointing out how wonderfully it's shot. On top of that, it's DP was Roger Deakins, one of the most respected working cinematographers today, and it's worth noting that he's been nominated for 7 Oscars without winning one.

I could see it like last year, where I thought for the longest time The Tree of Life was going to take home the prize, but in swoops Robert Richardson with the win for Hugo. I think the early favorite is the grandeur of The Master, but I could see a sleek Skyfall coming in ahead.

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You can't see Hollywood loving old school Hollywood in the form of honoring a great actor with a great resume?
If Washington had been snubbed for Training Day, then this might have been the "make up" award. I just don't see it happening, though, because the movie that Washington graces is just too weak. If Hollywood did really want genuinely to honour Old School, I hope they nominate A Royal Affair for best picture, as good and as thematically rich an historical drama as anything Hollywood conjured up in the '40s, '50s or '60s. The fact that it is Danish probably would cause voters pause, though it shouldn't.

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Roger Deakins deserves a nomination for his cinematography in Skyfall in my book.

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If Washington had been snubbed for Training Day, then this might have been the "make up" award. I just don't see it happening, though, because the movie that Washington graces is just too weak. If Hollywood did really want genuinely to honour Old School, I hope they nominate A Royal Affair for best picture, as good and as thematically rich an historical drama as anything Hollywood conjured up in the '40s, '50s or '60s. The fact that it is Danish probably would cause voters pause, though it shouldn't.
I'm not saying Hollywood should. (Pheonix's work in The Master is transcendentally brilliant that his comments should be ignored outright.) I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past Hollywood, especially if just a nomination.

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I hope they nominate A Royal Affair for best picture, as good and as thematically rich an historical drama as anything Hollywood conjured up in the '40s, '50s or '60s. The fact that it is Danish probably would cause voters pause, though it shouldn't.
There are only so many films Oscar voters can watch in any given year. I'd be willing to bet that there are a few posters here (that includes you kihei) who are more up-to-date with foreign films than certain members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

It all really depends on whether Magnolia Pictures is even willing to campaign for A Royal Affair. The Oscars are many things, including a grand pageant.

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There are only so many films Oscar voters can watch in any given year. I'd be willing to bet that there are a few posters here (that includes you kihei) who are more up-to-date with foreign films than certain members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

It all really depends on whether Magnolia Pictures is even willing to campaign for A Royal Affair. The Oscars are many things, including a grand pageant.
Although I would be surprised to see it get a best picture nomination based on the Academy's incredible bias towards english language movies, you would have to think A Royal Affair would make the rounds for Art Direction and Costume Design and at least be seen by most of the voters.

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Roger Deakins deserves a nomination for his cinematography in Skyfall in my book.
Seconded.

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Washington's chances depend entirely on whether or not they can fill in the minority nomination quota. If there's no one else, they will nominate him at least.

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I could see it like last year, where I thought for the longest time The Tree of Life was going to take home the prize, but in swoops Robert Richardson with the win for Hugo. I think the early favorite is the grandeur of The Master, but I could see a sleek Skyfall coming in ahead.
Which was still incredibly silly, in my humble opinion. I enjoyed Hugo for a lot of reasons, but its cinematography was not one of them.

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Which was still incredibly silly, in my humble opinion. I enjoyed Hugo for a lot of reasons, but its cinematography was not one of them.
One of those instances where the reward has more to do with the mise en scene than it does with the cinematography, maybe?

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