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11-09-2012, 02:33 PM
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All of Bettman's hawks attend the meetings. Jacobs is Bettman's enforcer along with Batterman. Leopold. Leonsis. Edwards.

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JEREMY JACOBS, Boston

The Chairman of the NHL's Board of Governors, Jacobs is a hawk in the truest form. Jacobs bought the Bruins in 1975 for $10 million. Today Forbes magazine values the team at $325 million, with revenues of $125 million that ranks Boston sixth among NHL teams. Jacobs makes healthy profits from his Bruins. He just wishes them bigger. Having him on the negotiating committee is like having the ghost of James Norris on board. "He represents everything that's wrong with the owners," said a source.

MURRAY EDWARDS, Calgary

Departed Flames owner Harley Hotchkiss had a huge hand in the last lockout, and Edwards has assumed his seat on Bettman's negotiating committee (alongside Jacobs, Ted Leonsis and Craig Leipold). With relatively new owners in Vancouver, Edmonton and Winnipeg, Edwards speaks on behalf of the Western Canadian franchises. He is known as a tough businessman who will go hard after a better deal if he thinks one is there to be had. The Flames make all kinds of money, so you can count Edwards in as league man who'll stand in support of all those U.S. owners whose expansion checks he has cashed. As well, the more favourable the CBA, the more the Flames are worth. With a new rink in Calgary on the burner, a higher franchise value wouldn't hurt with the bank.
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CRAIG LEIPOLD, Minnesota

The Wild owner is a major Bettman ally, after Bettman made possible Leipold's move from owning the perennial money-losing Nashville Predators, to Minneapolis, a traditional, northern hockey town. The Wild once sold out 409 straight games, but now have slipped to 16th in overall attendance. Then Leipold found out what it costs to put your team back on the map: identical $98 million deals to Zach Parise and Ryan Suter. Now Leipold is a staunch supporter of rollbacks. The Wild are suddenly one of the NHL's highest spenders, and the revenues in Minny don't back that up.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-l...ining_lockout/

These guys are responsible for the lockout.

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11-09-2012, 03:18 PM
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James Dolan isn't a Bettman ally? Shocking

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Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Well, well. @BRichards_1991 has arrived as well at meeting. Welcome to the labor talks Brad!

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11-09-2012, 03:34 PM
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"@TGfireandice: RT @RenLavoieRDS: Main NHL CBA meeting to start around 4 pm in NY. #NHL #NHLPA"

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11-09-2012, 04:16 PM
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"@KatieStrangESPN: #CBA Mathieu Darche just left Proskauer, but may be headed back home. Doesn't necessarily mean mtg is over"

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11-09-2012, 04:17 PM
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"@KatieStrangESPN: #CBA Mathieu Darche just left Proskauer, but may be headed back home. Doesn't necessarily mean mtg is over"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

How do these players get chosen to attend the meetings anyway? Random lottery? Education level above 2 years of HS??

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11-09-2012, 04:21 PM
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As Darche goes so go the negotiations.

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11-09-2012, 04:33 PM
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As Darche goes so go the negotiations.
Is that in a good or bad way?

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11-09-2012, 04:41 PM
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Is that in a good or bad way?
I think he was joking.

Darche was just going back to Montreal.

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@KatieStrangESPN no it's not, family things planned and need change of clothes #longweek


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11-09-2012, 05:05 PM
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Meetings have ended for right now

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The NHLPA is having a conference call with its executive committee and negotiating committee tonight
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/st...39562994417664

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There's a chance CBA talks resume again tonight.
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/st...39947368853505

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11-09-2012, 05:05 PM
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Conference call now.

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Fehr left the meeting without making a statement. Going to #NHLPA office for 615 conference call with executive committee #NHL
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Negotiation committee and executive of the NHLPA will have a conf call soon. Talks to resume tonight or Saturday.

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11-09-2012, 05:07 PM
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Negotiation committee and executive of the NHLPA will have a conf call soon. Talks to resume tonight or Saturday
https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/sta...40448860790784

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#CBA Fehr said PA has "things to consider" but wouldn't say much beyond that. Sounds like league and union swapped more ideas
https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/...40579286872064

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Total meeting -- three sets -- including pension issues; calendar issues and core economics went for about 4.5 hrs total
https://twitter.com/michaelgrange/st...40837291085824

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11-09-2012, 05:08 PM
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Keeping it on the down-low.

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#CBA Fehr said PA has "things to consider" but wouldn't say much beyond that. Sounds like league and union swapped more ideas

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11-09-2012, 05:09 PM
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RangerBoy and I are dueling tweets.

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3 things talked about today.

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#CBA Three meetings today covered 1) Critical dates/schedules/calendar items 2) Players' pensions and 3) core economic issues
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They did talk about pension, important dates (july first) and core ecomonics. Make whole part of it.
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Total meeting -- three sets -- including pension issues; calendar issues and core economics went for about 4.5 hrs total

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11-09-2012, 05:11 PM
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I believe they set up a committee, just like the players.
It's sad that their committee is composed of all the owners most likely to prevent a deal from ever happening.

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11-09-2012, 05:18 PM
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Count Bettman in 5.

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Gary Bettman to talk in 5 minutes.
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#NHL #NHLPA talks have broken off for now, and not in a good state, I'm told. NHLPA having conf. call with Exec. Board/Neg Committee soon

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11-09-2012, 05:19 PM
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I think meetings are over for now.

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Ted Leonsis, Craig Leipold and Jeremy Jacobs just left the building with suitcases.

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11-09-2012, 05:21 PM
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Talks have ended in NYC and Bettman will speak. Can tell you from one source, there is alot of anger, frustration around the NHL right now
https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN/stat...43684015550464

Its their fault. They broke the union last time. The PA changed leadership 3 times in how many years. The NHL ended up with Fehr. You get what you deserve. July 13 proposal galvanized the players.

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Right now plan is for NHL and NHLPA not to meet again tonight, but perhaps reconvene tomorrow. However, told that could possibly change
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/...43886675943424

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As Darche goes so go the negotiations.
I told ya.

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11-09-2012, 05:25 PM
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The greedy NHL not only wants 50-50 but they want changes in every system. They can't get everything they want. Go give Molson-Coors their rebate.

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11-09-2012, 05:34 PM
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Bettman waiting on NHLPA...

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Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN
#CBA Bettman just spoke but declined to say anything about discussions. Said they are awaiting word on whether PA will return tonight
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Source from talks says no real progress today...

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11-09-2012, 05:36 PM
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Here we are...

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Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange
Bettman said that he would be prepared to talk again tonight or through the weekend 'whatever it takes'
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Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN
#CBA Bettman said plan is to be in Toronto for HOF festivities on Monday but is willing to stay back for labor talks if there is a reason to

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11-09-2012, 05:42 PM
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https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/statu...48708913373184

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Just been told the two sides will not meet again tonight. #tickticktick

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11-09-2012, 05:53 PM
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Sounds like a breakdown to me.

Ah well.

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